Sell me.

[jc92869]

Looking to buy a net T/S. One of the options I'm looking into is a grand pacific property that has been converted to HGVC. I know very little about HGVC. So far, all i can gather is that there are going to be extra fees. SO...

...sell it to me.

If you were trying to convince me to buy HGCV tell me about some of the benefits, perks , good things about being an HGCV owner.

I realize i'm asking in a kind of tongue-in-cheek way, but i'm genuinely looking for some answers.

 

[GregT]

Looking to buy a net T/S. One of the options I'm looking into is a grand pacific property that has been converted to HGVC. I know very little about HGVC. So far, all i can gather is that there are going to be extra fees. SO...

...sell it to me.

If you were trying to convince me to buy HGCV tell me about some of the benefits, perks , good things about being an HGCV owner.

I realize i'm asking in a kind of tongue-in-cheek way, but i'm genuinely looking for some answers.

Sorry buddy, I have no interest in selling timeshares to you.

You need to want it. You need to ask lots of questions that we are more than happy to answer. And we will.

Timeshares have been a great gift to me, and to my family. But I wouldn't encourage anyone else on the planet to buy one of these crazy things. They need to understand what they are buying, and go in with open eyes.

It's much easier for me to talk you out of buying one, then to persuade you to buy one.

So....what questions do you have?

Best,

Greg

 

[alexadeparis]

Read the HGVC FAQ. HGVC has a lot of flexibility booking wise but limited locations. If you like Vegas Orlando and Hawaii great there is some other inventory, but that is the bulk. However, they are building new locations, so in the future it may be less limited on the locations.

 

[Talent312]

Don't buy HGVC... or if you do, buy retail. Peep seem to think that, just 'cuz resale gets the same treatment as retail, it's okay to compete with those of us planning to add points to our accounts. That jacks up prices. :ignore:

Seriously, if you want to know more, see: http://www.hgvclubprogram.com/
You will find it confusing, becuz the program is way to flexible. Read it 3-4 times... Then ask questions.

 

[Jason245]

Looking to buy a net T/S. One of the options I'm looking into is a grand pacific property that has been converted to HGVC. I know very little about HGVC. So far, all i can gather is that there are going to be extra fees. SO...

...sell it to me.

If you were trying to convince me to buy HGCV tell me about some of the benefits, perks , good things about being an HGCV owner.

I realize i'm asking in a kind of tongue-in-cheek way, but i'm genuinely looking for some answers.

Umm.. just call hgvc, they will do a great job selling it to you.

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[alwysonvac]

Sorry buddy, I have no interest in selling timeshares to you.

You need to want it. You need to ask lots of questions that we are more than happy to answer. And we will.

Timeshares have been a great gift to me, and to my family. But I wouldn't encourage anyone else on the planet to buy one of these crazy things. They need to understand what they are buying, and go in with open eyes.

It's much easier for me to talk you out of buying one, then to persuade you to buy one.

So....what questions do you have?

Best,

Greg

I agree with Greg

One size doesn't fit all. It's best to learn as much as you can to determine if HGVC meets your families needs to avoid disappointment.

Perhaps this thread may address what you're looking for "benefits, perks , good things about being an HGCV owner".
"Have you been surprised by HGVC?" - http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223671

 

[jc92869]

Sorry buddy, I have no interest in selling timeshares to you.

You need to want it. You need to ask lots of questions that we are more than happy to answer. And we will.

Timeshares have been a great gift to me, and to my family. But I wouldn't encourage anyone else on the planet to buy one of these crazy things. They need to understand what they are buying, and go in with open eyes.

It's much easier for me to talk you out of buying one, then to persuade you to buy one.

So....what questions do you have?

Best,

Greg

OK. I have owned a time share for a few years now, I am sold on the concept of timeshares. I'm in the market for a second one and are considering HGVC. So i meant sell me HGCV which is why i posted directly to the HGVC section.

So a better question perhaps- (to the poster above, and anyone else)

What do YOU like about HGVC?

 

[mgeez]

OK. I have owned a time share for a few years now, I am sold on the concept of timeshares. I'm in the market for a second one and are considering HGVC. So i meant sell me HGCV which is why i posted directly to the HGVC section.

So a better question perhaps- (to the poster above, and anyone else)

What do YOU like about HGVC?

1. Flexability
2. Very easy to get a DVC week
3. Open season

 

[jc92869]

1. Flexability
2. Very easy to get a DVC week
3. Open season

Does this mean there is no "week 1-22 and 44-52 but not weeks 23 -43"
type of thing?

 

[Jason245]

Does this mean there is no "week 1-22 and 44-52 but not weeks 23 -43"
type of thing?

Read the sticky with the answers to this and all other questions.

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[GregT]

OK. I have owned a time share for a few years now, I am sold on the concept of timeshares. I'm in the market for a second one and are considering HGVC. So i meant sell me HGCV which is why i posted directly to the HGVC section.

So a better question perhaps- (to the poster above, and anyone else)

What do YOU like about HGVC?

Got it, thx.

HGVC is perhaps my best timeshare system. It has a very flexible reservation system (similar to Worldmark, but better than Starwood and Marriott), combined with high quality of properties similar to Marriott and Starwood (which Worldmark does not).

I can book reservations pretty much anywhere 9 months out, on any check-in day, as long as I am staying at least three days. Marriott and Starwood are more rigid in their requirements, but each has their own pluses and minuses.

An original criticism of HGVC was that it was heavily concentrated in Orlando, Las Vegas and Hawaii. This did not bother me as I purchased primarily for usage in Hawaii, however it is restrictive to others. However, HGVC has been the most active of the major timeshare brands in terms of expanding to new locations, which I think is terrific and healthy.

I originally purchased Maui Ocean Club and have expanded there repeatedly. I discovered HGVC after I discovered MOC, and if the order was reversed, I might have HGVC as my primary timeshare, and I might visit Big Island/Oahu every year for my family trip instead of Maui. But MOC came first (and I love MOC). I do believe the HHV and Waikoloa properties are fantastic.

I hope this helps!

Best,

Greg

 

[presley]

What do YOU like about HGVC?

Flexibility of being able to book short stays with any start day. I like that some have hotel type features like room service, mid week cleaning. I can count on a certain quality of rooms when booking a Hilton property (not the affiliates, but true Hilton).

Does this mean there is no "week 1-22 and 44-52 but not weeks 23 -43"
type of thing?

Open season is the ability to book rooms for cash up to 30 days in advance. The minimum stay is 2 nights, which is shorter than the minimum of 3 nights when booking via club points. Since you are interested in GPR, you will actually pay less booking your home resort on bonus time than by booking the same room from HGVC open season. If you want to stay somewhere other than your home resort for a couple nights, open season is great.

 

[theo]

My $0.02 worth...

<snip> You need to ask lots of questions that we are more than happy to answer. And we will. <snip>

A great reply to "sell me"!

There is always a learning curve (and a bit of effort required to climb it) in order to learn the particular oddities of any timeshare system, since they all have their little nuances and differences. Folks around here will always help, but a little self-educational effort and initiative on OP's part first would go a long way toward engaging others. Reading the HGVC FAQ's (and everything else HGVC-related that OP can find) and let specific questions evolve from there. "Sell me" just doesn't cut it, at least IMnsHO.
Looking for answers is admirable, but with all due respect that quest should appropriately be preceded by first learning enough to actually ask some questions, no?

 

[TUGBrian]

rent until you are ready to buy...

 

[jc92869]

A great reply to "sell me"!

There is always a learning curve (and a bit of effort required to climb it) in order to learn the particular oddities of any timeshare system, since they all have their little nuances and differences. Folks around here will always help, but a little self-educational effort and initiative on OP's part first would go a long way toward engaging others. Reading the HGVC FAQ's (and everything else HGVC-related that OP can find) and let specific questions evolve from there. "Sell me" just doesn't cut it, at least IMnsHO.
Looking for answers is admirable, but with all due respect that quest should appropriately be preceded by first learning enough to actually ask some questions, no?

Thank you for your response, and what i'm looking for is often not found in the FAQ's, or is very convoluted in the responses.

What the FAQ's frequently have, are the nuts-and-bolts, but What i want is to know are the little things, the intangibles, the unwritten nuisances about Hilton.

gregt, presley, mgeez ( and others) are the types of answers i'm looking for.

I think that i tried to ask the question in a "funny" way by saying "sell me"but perhaps i'm not as funny as i think i am

So with that in mind... what do you like about Hilton?

 

[Talent312]

...[W]hat do you like about Hilton?

1. An online booking site that is nearly hotel-like w- 3N mins for "club" points.
B. Consistently HQ resorts that don't skimp on amenities, activities or service.
(c) Fair treatment of resale buyers - no loss of perks (except only elite status).
.

 

[Jason245]

Thank you for your response, and what i'm looking for is often not found in the FAQ's, or is very convoluted in the responses.

What the FAQ's frequently have, are the nuts-and-bolts, but What i want is to know are the little things, the intangibles, the unwritten nuisances about Hilton.

gregt, presley, mgeez ( and others) are the types of answers i'm looking for.

I think that i tried to ask the question in a "funny" way by saying "sell me"but perhaps i'm not as funny as i think i am

So with that in mind... what do you like about Hilton?

Instead of trying to have others convince of of what they like, maybe you should flip it around and ask what they don't like.

You seem like you are on a fence about this, perhaps instead of trying to ask HGVC owners these questsions, you should be answering the following ones:

http://tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208742

And then use the feedback from others as a guide to what it is you and your family really need.

Everyone buys for different reasons, and people prefer different experiences while they travel. Some people like going to the same resort every year, others prefer to go somewhere new and are looking for that type of experience. Some people prefer to pay more for the highest quality resort they can afford, others view travel sleeping accomodations as places to rest their head while preparing for the next days adventure. Some people are looking for maximum resale value, others just view purchase costs as a Sunk cost. Some people bought in for the inexpensive open season (only to watch that benefit slowly errode until there was almost a full scale revolt on Hiltons hands earlier this year). Some people find value in RCI exchanges while others say there is no Value in those. Some people like the flexability of points, others prefer the home week reservation capabilities. Some people exchange via SFX, others say SFX is too hard or difficult to deal with.

Ultimatly, you are going to spin your head round and round looking for some special reason to buy, when instead you should focus on buying the Right thing for you and your family (which may be not buying at all) based on your true needs and projected future needs.

 

[presley]

I think the OP is doing the right thing by asking a lot of questions and gathering as much information as possible. How many of us Tuggers have bought and sold several timeshares before settling in with what we love? With the amount of research the OP is doing, hopefully, they can buy something and always think it was a good choice and use and enjoy it for many years.

From what I've gathered, the OP originally wanted a GPR to avoid the 1 in 4 in RCI. Well, GPR has a lot of options. Some come with RCI points, some come with HGVC, some have day use, some sell for $1., some sell for $15K.... exploring every option is a really good thing to do before taking on a contract.

 

[JSparling]

T perhaps i'm not as funny as i think i am

My wife tells me the same thing.

 

[llwilson]

"From what I've gathered, the OP originally wanted a GPR to avoid the 1 in 4 in RCI."

Presley, what does this mean? I too am considering a HGVC purchase, but haven't heard about this! Thank You!

 

[Talent312]

"From what I've gathered, the OP originally wanted a GPR to avoid the 1 in 4 in RCI." -- Presley, what does this mean?

The "1-in-4 rule" refers to an RCI policy that allows resorts to limit RCI guests to 1 stay every 4 years at that resort. It only applies to bookings made thru the RCI system -- not to bookings made for a club-affiliated resort using the "club's" own system, i.e. HGVC, GP or Club Intrawest.

HGVC applies the 1-in-4 rule when it's own members and "outsiders" try to book its resorts as an RCI exchange -- which can actually save you some points. The restriction, however, is particular to each resort, not club-wide.

Clear as mud?

.

 

[weems637]

HGVC provides midweek cleanings. With Wyndham, you have to be a plain or gold member, which you cannot get through resale points. HGVC does not bombard you during your stay about attending update meetings, Wyndham goes into overdrive. HGVC allows you to borrow points from next year. Wyndham ' s options are limited.

I'm owners of both, and love each for different reasons.

 

[Helios]

Owners renting HGVC

How does HGVC restrict owners from renting their home resort week (i.e., charge for making the reservation on a guest's name, etc.)? How about an owner renting a reservation made at a different HGVC resort with points, is this possible?

 

[Jason245]

How does HGVC restrict owners from renting their home resort week (i.e., charge for making the reservation on a guest's name, etc.)? How about an owner renting a reservation made at a different HGVC resort with points, is this possible?

You can rent your home week for no charge. It is against hgvc rules to rent any other reservation. It is also against rci rules to rent rci reservations.

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[Helios]

I thought so about renting at other resorts.

For home resort rentals, it seems like there is no fee for a guest/renter name change in the reservation.

About RCI exchanges, is there an advantage in owning HGVC when trying to get a unit at a prime location, say DVC Aulani? Or, is the RCI trade power purely based on points that are assigned to your unit and the points of the unit you want.