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Seeing Ebay auctions being pulled for ???

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Just an observation that probably means only something to a newbie like me, but . . . I have been monitoring Ebay auctions for the last few weeks. . . waiting for the right deal. Lately I'm seeing auctions that are ending early . . . apparently the early endings were initiated by the seller(s) with the explanation that the timeshare is no longer for sale. And now an auction I was monitoring just disappeared with no explanation. It was offered by "wanted_weeks." Curiously I did an Ebay search for any other items for sale by "wanted_weeks" and there were no auctions listed. I thought it odd as I always seem to run across auctions from "wanted_weeks." Something weird seems to be going on? Or is this not out of the norm?
 

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Many times a seller will end an auction (item no longer available) if a prospective purchaser will contact the seller and offer a "fair" price for the item, and the seller accepts that offer.

I don't have any information on the seller you mentioned.

Tony
 

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There's a huge thread on wanted weeks. I'd be very careful with them. Read the thread and you'll learn why their auctions are on and off.
 

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As any property related auction on Ebay is simply an 'invitation to trade' rather than a binding deal, many sellers will be advertising in other ways at the same time. If they accept an offer from another source whilst the auction is in progress they have no option but to terminate the auction early.
I have no experience of the vendor you refer to so can't comment specifically on their actions.
 

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. . . many sellers will be advertising in other ways at the same time. If they accept an offer from another source whilst the auction is in progress they have no option but to terminate the auction early.

That makes sense . . . I hadn't thought of that. And I bet they sold it for a higher price than they would have on Ebay.
 

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That particular seller has many many errors in his listings and has come and gone and come back again under different names on ebay. I bought one timeshare from him, and although it finally transfered, there were many errors and problems along the way.
 

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Ebay may pull the auctions themselves.

As an example they don't allow Worldmark to be sold without a physical address. So if you list a worldmark for sale and say that there is muliple addresses Ebay may take down the item.
 

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See if wanted weeks is still an ebay member. Sometimes members are banned and are "no longer a member" because they were caught shilling. Funtime
 

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Wanted Weeks

I was watching two ads they had and they were pulled, then yesterday I noticed them back on the board, also, they are now "square deal" sellers.
 

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Ending Auctions Early

We have won 2 auctions with wanted weeks, and both have closed satisfactorily.

Another auction with wanted weeks was ended early, as the week was sold outside of Ebay to another buyer.

Sellers do have the right to end the auction early, as the week may be listed on their own website or another timeshare listing site.
 

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Well..my auction has just been pulled by ebay

Just an observation that probably means only something to a newbie like me, but . . . I have been monitoring Ebay auctions for the last few weeks. . . waiting for the right deal. Lately I'm seeing auctions that are ending early . . . apparently the early endings were initiated by the seller(s) with the explanation that the timeshare is no longer for sale. And now an auction I was monitoring just disappeared with no explanation. It was offered by "wanted_weeks." Curiously I did an Ebay search for any other items for sale by "wanted_weeks" and there were no auctions listed. I thought it odd as I always seem to run across auctions from "wanted_weeks." Something weird seems to be going on? Or is this not out of the norm?

I just got an email saying "The was removed because it violated the eBay Travel policy. We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled." Apparently I didn't put in some sort of disclamer that I am not an agent. No warning that I am violating any kind of policy, no chance to remedy situation, no human interactions of any kind. This after hitting me for $19.50 for the Square Trade Seal. I am frustrated beyond belief. It was my first attempt to rent via ebay. The whole listing process was very tidious and confusing. Ebay nickle and dimed me for every little thing, no clear information of cost and process up front. I do not know where that info was about a disclaimer. I think ebay got too corporate and greedy.
 

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I was watching three auctions by this company the other day, and they all disappeared with no warning. I'll have to check to see if they're back.

Dave
 

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Just an observation that probably means only something to a newbie like me, but . . . I have been monitoring Ebay auctions for the last few weeks. . . waiting for the right deal. Lately I'm seeing auctions that are ending early . . . apparently the early endings were initiated by the seller(s) with the explanation that the timeshare is no longer for sale. And now an auction I was monitoring just disappeared with no explanation. It was offered by "wanted_weeks." Curiously I did an Ebay search for any other items for sale by "wanted_weeks" and there were no auctions listed. I thought it odd as I always seem to run across auctions from "wanted_weeks." Something weird seems to be going on? Or is this not out of the norm?

We have been running ebay ads since November. Ebay auctions generally get a lower rental price that we get from other website ads. We have posted in ALL of our ebay rental ads that we have the right to pull that ad if we get a better offer generated from another website.

We have not up to this time not pulled a rental ad if there has been a opening bid. The only time we would pull auction that had a bid is if we made a big mistake.

As a example, here below is a recent ebay cancellation of one of our auctions. Most ebay messages from ebayers are well thought out.

Here is one of the messages we got while our auction was live.

The email message sent sent stated that party wants a sleep 6 unit for a major high demand holiday and want to pay less that $4.80 per day per person.

In fact they wanted 3 units for $199 each per week. They did not make the Mininum opening bid of $499 for that Limited Prime New Years week.


They felt $199 for the week was a "right deal". Seeinfg that is a fair amount below most Maintenance fees their chances of keeping a "Right deal" are very slim epecially if they are floating weeks that can be cancelled and rebooked for differant dates.


After 3 messages like that I replyed and posted for all to see that it was economically reasonable the rate they offered. I posted that at $11.88 per person per day that was still a low price per day for a condo.

I later rented 2 unit-weeks off of ebay for about $200 more than than that opening bid price that got no bids for several days before we rented them out.

I paid the ebay listing bid, but seeing it was sold from a non ebay lead from Tug I did not owe the fees for selling on ebay.

On the other hand we rented out one of our New Years units at a differant resort through ebay this week for abou $1,100.

So ebay can produce for both owners and renters if they are both realistic. We list our ebays rentals in most cases about 2 months or less than their check in dates.

But we list our ads on other sites asap on our floating and fixed weeks. On one of our ownerships we have our six 2010 floating weeks listed on one of the websites we use. Websites like Tug on the average net us better prices than ebay. All of the sites can be usefull tools if you have good weeks at good resorts to rent out.

I think rentals have not dropped in volume as much in comparison to resales because the rental is only a one time committment compared to buying and having on going maintenance fees.

I hope my explaination of why we sometimes cancell auctions, etc helped give some insight.

Bruce :D
 
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I just got an email saying "The was removed because it violated the eBay Travel policy. We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled." Apparently I didn't put in some sort of disclamer that I am not an agent. No warning that I am violating any kind of policy, no chance to remedy situation, no human interactions of any kind. This after hitting me for $19.50 for the Square Trade Seal. I am frustrated beyond belief. It was my first attempt to rent via ebay. The whole listing process was very tidious and confusing. Ebay nickle and dimed me for every little thing, no clear information of cost and process up front. I do not know where that info was about a disclaimer. I think ebay got too corporate and greedy.
I just had one of my rental auctions pulled for this, too. I had noticed that many other timeshare renters had the disclaimer listed in their ads, but I couldn't find a rule anywhere saying that it was required. Having the disclaimer seemed pretty pointless, especially since Square Trade Travel Verification is also required, so I ignored it. I had five rental auctions running without the disclaimer, and only one was pulled.

eBay actually cancels auctions and issues "violations" quite often. In the past month or so, I've had two transactions where the other party (not me) got zinged for no good reason. First, I tried to buy some Southwest Ticketless Travel funds and eBay canceled the auction *after* I had paid because they decided Ticketless Travel funds were actually airline tickets (they aren't), and the auction wasn't in the airline ticket category. In the other auction, I sold a Gift Card and eBay/Paypal canceled the transaction (again, after the auction had closed and been paid) because they were suspicious of the buyer and thought he was trying to commit fraud. I spoke to the buyer and he seemed perfectly legit; I think that it was just overcautiousness on eBay's part. (I actually had a third transaction this month where eBay canceled a purchase of mine after the listing ended, but in that listing, the seller's account had actually been hacked and the item listed didn't exist. So, in this third case, canceling the auction was justified.)

I do think that canceling timeshare rentals for not having the disclaimer is pretty poor on eBay's part. For other categories, if they have a rule of this sort, a notice in big red type will typically come up when you list in that category, stating what the requirements are. However, I don't plan to complain, as long as I'm not given any other "violations" in the next few months. (If eBay zings me for something else, I might try claiming this violation I just got was unfair, since having more than 3 violations in a short period could jeopardize my Powerseller status.)

Anna, it's not a big deal, as long as you didn't pay much in listing fees. Just put the disclaimer at the bottom of your ad, and relist.
 

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I had 4 Ebay rental auctions canceled because I didn't realize you had to have the Ebay disclaimer in the listing. In my case, they canceled all 4 of them and it was a real pain to get them back up. In looking at other rental ads, I found a lot that didn't have the disclaimer and I wonder how they decide which ones to cancel.
 

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I do think that canceling timeshare rentals for not having the disclaimer is pretty poor on eBay's part. For other categories, if they have a rule of this sort, a notice in big red type will typically come up when you list in that category, stating what the requirements are.

Anna, it's not a big deal, as long as you didn't pay much in listing fees. Just put the disclaimer at the bottom of your ad, and relist.

Judy, thanks for putting it in perspective. I re-listed and it looks like no additional listing fees were imposed over what I already owed. But I am still pissed, because now my auction will end on Christmas week. And I do not see the two bidders showing up for this one.

This whole thing was easily preventable, if the eBay security team sent me a note that I need to add the disclaimer, instead of sending me a note that they terminated my auction. More user friendly to me, the seller, and more user friendly to those who already placed their bids.

I am reflecting on how small, progressive companies with clear ethos of doing good for community, end up corporate giants overpowerd by bureaucracy. Cases in point are eBay and Paypal. Then, there is Amazon, that found a way of growing without loosing their original focus.
 

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As any property related auction on Ebay is simply an 'invitation to trade' rather than a binding deal, many sellers will be advertising in other ways at the same time. If they accept an offer from another source whilst the auction is in progress they have no option but to terminate the auction early.
I have no experience of the vendor you refer to so can't comment specifically on their actions.


Except when the seller complains to eBay and eBay strikes your account with an unpaid strike!

Recently happened to me when I won an auction for a week in MO that the seller stated cost $45 a week MF+Taxes....I kicked myself for not doing the due dilligence before winning, but called the resort prior to sending my payment and was told the week MF+Taxes was going to cost me $68 a month, not $45. When I emailed the seller, they emailed back that $45 was incorrect, but it is $52, not $68.....I then emailed back again that I bid and won based on $45 so I'm exercising my option to not proceed since the actual cost was inaccurate and the auction bid was non-binding as per eBay.....didn't hear anything after that, until....

Three weeks later, they filed a non-payment complaint with eBay and opened a dispute.....I replied to the dispute with eBay, referenced all email communications and was returned a reply that the seller closed the dispute and I had an unpaid strike against my account! I contacted eBay back, pointed out the auction was non-binding and that my bid was in fact in good-faith with the intention of paying if I won and that the listing had incorrectly stated that the MF+Taxes were $45 when, in fact, they were $68, thus I exercised my legal option to not continue with the purchase. eBay refused to take the unpaid strike off my account, despite the listing being non-binding!

I've had the eBay account for years, 100% positive feedback for both buys and sells and it just annoys me that a non-binding bid that was materially inaccurate still got me an unpaid strike....it simply isn't worth my time though to fight eBay on this....but you can get an account strike even though the auction is non-binding.
 
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