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Searching Exchanges in II

Buelah111

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So, I'm a new resale owner at Pinon Pointe. I've appreciated all the information I've been able to glean from Tug over the last few months as we searched for and eventually purchased our unit. Now I'm in the exploration stage both within Hyatt Exchanges and II. I'm not looking to book anything specific in II right now, but just interested in seeing examples of availability for future planning purposes (I completely realize these are just examples, things change all the time). I am struggling to have a search pull up anything for Hawaii (I've tried several islands with wide date ranges). Is there a trick for searching Hawaii, or is there truly nothing available for the next 18 months? I have a Diamond Hyatt unit so it doesn't seem like points should be a limiting factor. Any advice and/or confirmation I'm searching correctly would be welcome. Thanks!
 

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When searching II, we’ve found we’re only interested in Elite level resorts. Here are several elite codes you can paste into the resort name;
MHB,MHZ,MGA,MAO,MSU,MBY,MBP,MCV,MEM,MCU,MCP,MDS,MPD,MFV,MFC,MGC,MC1,MGO,MGV,MGR,MHH,HPS,MHG,MIP,MKW,MKO,MK1,MLE,MMC,MMB,MMO,MMS,MVL,MOU,NCV,MPB,MOW,MPU,MP1,MUZ,MRP,MSP,MRD,MSK,MDO,MVB,MEV,MSW,MSN,MSF,MML,MVF,MVD,MAW,MVO
 

echino

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Westin St. John
Westin Kierland
Westin Lagunamar
Marriott Canyon Villas
Marriott Grand Chateau
Marriott St. Kitts
Marriott Ko Olina
Right now, there is nothing available in Hawaii in II on any dates.
 

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Right now, there is nothing available in Hawaii in II on any dates.
Geez....I'm about to pull the trigger on a resale purchase (probably this week). A big part of my "valuation" to this timeshare purchase is the ability to find within Hyatt and less so II. I figured good luck finding something four to six months out, but if I cant find something 18 months out, then whats the point. In this case is not about "planning in advanced and being flexible" ...it is about availability or lack thereof. I like the resort I'm looking at but I'm not buying to go every year. That's is not my "vacation style".

Maybe the senior members need to start and populate a thread/database that shows exchanges internally and externally?. A trade database that shows:
  • Owned week and where
  • When (if) was it deposited
  • Requested resort(s), week and when was it requested or when started looking:
  • When was it confirmed...if ever.
  • When trade was abandoned if could not find what was looking for.
 

echino

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Marriott Canyon Villas
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Marriott Ko Olina
A couple of Hawaii weeks appeared today in II. Usually something is sitting in the open inventory, but not much. You need to set up an ongoing search to catch the developer bulk deposits. The vast majority of inventory in II comes from developer deposits, not from owners.

Hyatt points have top trading power in II seeing absolutely everything other than Marriott and Vistana units in the preference period.
 

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The Sightings Board is your best bet.
 

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A couple of Hawaii weeks appeared today in II. Usually something is sitting in the open inventory, but not much. You need to set up an ongoing search to catch the developer bulk deposits. The vast majority of inventory in II comes from developer deposits, not from owners.

Hyatt points have top trading power in II seeing absolutely everything other than Marriott and Vistana units in the preference period.
Not sure I like what you said above.... in bold. So all the statements about how Hyatt trades really well in II does not apply to Marriott & Vistana properties?

Excluding these would mean a lot of the top notch properties are not available .... I would be exchanging a high end resort for say a ???? Not equal
 

echino

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Westin Lagunamar
Marriott Canyon Villas
Marriott Grand Chateau
Marriott St. Kitts
Marriott Ko Olina
When Marriott makes a bulk deposit into II, the units can be booked in II by Marriott owners only, for a preference period of a few days. After the preference period is over, the remaining units, which were not booked by Marriott owners, are released to everyone on II (subject to trading power). A similar preference period also exists for Vistana.

So if you want a good shot at a Marriott in II, you have to own a Marriott. Same for Vistana.

Once the week is out of preference, you will see it with Hyatt points, which have top trading power and see absolutely everything.
 

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When Marriott makes a bulk deposit into II, the units can be booked in II by Marriott owners only, for a preference period of a few days. After the preference period is over, the remaining units, which were not booked by Marriott owners, are released to everyone on II (subject to trading power). A similar preference period also exists for Vistana.

So if you want a good shot at a Marriott in II, you have to own a Marriott. Same for Vistana.

Once the week is out of preference, you will see it with Hyatt points, which have top trading power and see absolutely everything.
Got it ... Thank You!
 

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Most ppl own in Hawaii if it’s a frequent destination or you need to go in high season due to school schedule. Many of us own in 2 different Systems because of this.
 

heathpack

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Also FYI you can't search II more than a year out with Hyatt points. Its a disadvantage for Hawaii units in II because owners of non-Hyatt timeshares can search and set up exchange requests at the 18 month mark.
 

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Westin Lagunamar
Marriott Canyon Villas
Marriott Grand Chateau
Marriott St. Kitts
Marriott Ko Olina
I can search II two years out with my Hyatt account.
 

heathpack

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I can search II two years out with my Hyatt account.
Yes you are right. I remembered noticing a change in recent times and I went to II to do a test search after I posted my reply, then got distracted at work. You are correct- 2 years out now. It previously was 1 year out.

I don't trade my Hyatt in II like I used to. I've instead bought more of what I want to use and tend to use my Hyatt points in Hyatt Residence Club nowadays. So I'm not up on II like I once was.
 

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@Buelah111
@Islnd

Hawaii resorts are in tremendous demand.
Interval receives weeks for Hawaii almost
every day, but any top resorts that make it
to online inventory are taken within minutes,
and all other resorts rarely last until the afternoon.

You will need to set up an ongoing search. You will
need to search online as often as possible. After a few
weeks, you'll become more comfortable with the
patterns for Hawaii.
 

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We just returned from the Hyatt in Maui (our first visit and we exchanged one of our Key West Hyatt Beach House weeks as an internal Hyatt exchange). We decided to meet with the timeshare salesman as it had been awhile since we heard their song and dance. I learned something new about II if one can believe the salesman. I had always assumed points were points when trading in II as I read how disappointed most people are with trying to trade in II. However, he said that II makes money through the trade fees so II has the algorithms set up to give II the most possible profit in trading fees with exchanges. As an example, if I want Hawaii which is high demand, and I'm trading in my Key West March week (high demand market and time of year), I am likely to get the Hawaii unit as II has a list of ten people wanting my KW week which means another fee for them when they exchange my KW unit to someone on the list. The person that gets my KW week will be the person that exchanges a high demand week so that II makes money on that trade and so on. If I owned a low demand Branson week, I'm not likely to get my Hawaii trade because the Branson week may sit there with no exchange and thus, that ends their profit run. I realize this may be common knowledge for everyone; however, I wanted to share this as it may help with your planning.
 

SteelerGal

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We just returned from the Hyatt in Maui (our first visit and we exchanged one of our Key West Hyatt Beach House weeks as an internal Hyatt exchange). We decided to meet with the timeshare salesman as it had been awhile since we heard their song and dance. I learned something new about II if one can believe the salesman. I had always assumed points were points when trading in II as I read how disappointed most people are with trying to trade in II. However, he said that II makes money through the trade fees so II has the algorithms set up to give II the most possible profit in trading fees with exchanges. As an example, if I want Hawaii which is high demand, and I'm trading in my Key West March week (high demand market and time of year), I am likely to get the Hawaii unit as II has a list of ten people wanting my KW week which means another fee for them when they exchange my KW unit to someone on the list. The person that gets my KW week will be the person that exchanges a high demand week so that II makes money on that trade and so on. If I owned a low demand Branson week, I'm not likely to get my Hawaii trade because the Branson week may sit there with no exchange and thus, that ends their profit run. I realize this may be common knowledge for everyone; however, I wanted to share this as it may help with your planning.
I do that they are using an algorithm that benefits II
 
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