Schools reopening or not

[bluehende]

oh, now you posted a third one... what do you know about how this poll was conducted? Nothing at all. You do not know if it was a representative sample or if just the most vocal people responded, you do not know anything about those that were polled. You do not even know what method was used (phone, internet, mail etc). The lack of info should make you pause before posting it.

What we do know however, is that the organization is political, they give themselves away right in this "survey":

"Parents overwhelmingly oppose tying school funding to re-opening, a proposal favored by the President and Senate Republicans. "

Browsing through the other pages, I also see they were encouraging protests...

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another one that show they are political activists:

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and another one. I will stop here, it is just obvious this is another political hit job disguised as a parent organization

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one was the ap. Instead of denigrating please supply data to the contrary.

 

[DannyTS]

one was the ap. Instead of denigrating please supply data to the contrary.

Why posting the obvious is denigrating? I do not have to supply any more data, even your own other poll (AP) and Ken's showed about 2 out of 3 parents want kids to return to school either full time or hybrid.

I actually personally support a hybrid system but it has nothing to do with safety, I enjoy spending more time with them and if one of us can work from home once or twice a week, it would be great.

 

[bluehende]

@Cornell

Here is an interesting one that breaks out total population and population with kids in school. There does not seem to be a big difference.

Poll: Teachers, Parents Wary of Returning to Schools Without COVID-19 Vaccine

Just 46 percent of those responding to a USA Today/Ipsos poll said they would support students and teachers returning to schools this fall before there is a vaccine against the virus.

blogs.edweek.org

 

[needvaca]

one was the ap. Instead of denigrating please supply data to the contrary.

I’m a parent. I posted a poll/Survey from my actual school district of 8000 students in this thread a few days ago. 85% of parents want to return to in person school. It’s real. Our schools are offering a remote option. The teachers union wants it. Parents want in school. We are at odds.
My parent friends in other districts have surveys and have had similar results. All the local Chicago suburban schools are offering remote but parents and students want school!

 

[DannyTS]

Here is an interesting one that breaks out total population and population with kids in school. There does not seem to be a big difference.

Poll: Teachers, Parents Wary of Returning to Schools Without COVID-19 Vaccine

Just 46 percent of those responding to a USA Today/Ipsos poll said they would support students and teachers returning to schools this fall before there is a vaccine against the virus.

blogs.edweek.org

did you see the date? It is almost 3 months old

 

[Cornell]

I’m a parent. I posted a poll/Survey from my actual school district of 8000 students in this thread a few days ago. 85% of parents want to return to in person school. It’s real. Our schools are offering a remote option. The teachers union wants it. Parents want in school. We are at odds.
My parent friends in other districts have surveys and have had similar results. All the local Chicago suburban schools are offering remote but parents and students want school!

There is no doubt that we are being held hostage here in IL by the teachers unions . An exception is D28 in Northbrook. They are opening. And guess what ? They are one of the few school districts in our area that is non union .

 

[needvaca]

@Cornell

Here is an interesting one that breaks out total population and population with kids in school. There does not seem to be a big difference.

Poll: Teachers, Parents Wary of Returning to Schools Without COVID-19 Vaccine

Just 46 percent of those responding to a USA Today/Ipsos poll said they would support students and teachers returning to schools this fall before there is a vaccine against the virus.

blogs.edweek.org

This is a teacher poll, not a parent poll. Teacher unions are fighting hard against going back to school and skewing information for their benefit.
Taxpayers with schoolage kids want to go back to school

 

[needvaca]

There is no doubt that we are being held hostage here in IL by the teachers unions . An exception is D28 in Northbrook. They are opening. And guess what ? They are one of the few school districts in our area that is non union .

Held hostage is right.
We just got a district email today that our schools likely won’t open as planned because they cannot get enough teachers to “commit to coming back to school”. I’m furious. Parents are furious

 

[bluehende]

This is a teacher poll, not a parent poll. Teacher unions are fighting hard against going back to school and skewing information for their benefit.
Taxpayers with schoolage kids want to go back to school

from the study


Here are the results for parents and the overall public. "Total support" is the total of respondents who said they "strongly support" or "somewhat support" the measure in question.

 

[Cornell]

Seems like it’s time to bash the unions... my, how this thread has evolved.


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Calling it like I see it .

 

[Ken555]

Here’s another interesting poll.

Fewer U.S. Parents Want Full-Time In-Person Fall Schooling

Since early summer, fewer parents of K-12 students now want full-time in-person instruction for their children, and more want full-time remote learning.

news.gallup.com

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[DannyTS]

Here’s another interesting poll.

Fewer U.S. Parents Want Full-Time In-Person Fall Schooling

Since early summer, fewer parents of K-12 students now want full-time in-person instruction for their children, and more want full-time remote learning.

news.gallup.com

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so no matter how we slice it, most parents still want kids to return to school

 

[Ken555]

For Michigan...

Poll: Half of Michigan says their schools aren’t safe during COVID-19 | Bridge Michigan

Despite planned safety protocols in schools, half of residents surveyed aren’t sold on the notion of returning children to classroom settings in the midst of a global pandemic. Thirty-six percent said schools would be safe, a drop since earlier polling.

www.bridgemi.com

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[DannyTS]

For Michigan...

Poll: Half of Michigan says their schools aren’t safe during COVID-19 | Bridge Michigan

Despite planned safety protocols in schools, half of residents surveyed aren’t sold on the notion of returning children to classroom settings in the midst of a global pandemic. Thirty-six percent said schools would be safe, a drop since earlier polling.

www.bridgemi.com

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this is also 2.5 months old and those polled were registered voters not parents

 

[Ken555]

this is also 2.5 months old.

Sure, Danny. I must be imagining the date on the page and in the article re the poll dates.

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[Cornell]

For Michigan...

Poll: Half of Michigan says their schools aren’t safe during COVID-19 | Bridge Michigan

Despite planned safety protocols in schools, half of residents surveyed aren’t sold on the notion of returning children to classroom settings in the midst of a global pandemic. Thirty-six percent said schools would be safe, a drop since earlier polling.

www.bridgemi.com

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Great, that’s MI . In Illinois , as @needvaca has pointed out, we want our schools open and survey after survey justify that.

 

[DannyTS]

Sure, Danny. I must be imagining the date on the page and in the article re the poll dates.




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sorry, another linked opened... or maybe you changed it. Regardless, they did not poll parents but registered voters. Big difference.

 

[Ken555]

so no matter how we slice it, most parents still want kids to return to school

Glad you changed your post, since you initially wrote that parents were 4x more likely to approve in school education, when it is the opposite.

This poll doesn’t agree with you, but there are so many out there and so many with different criteria, number of respondents, etc, that is difficult to get a final result.


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[Ken555]

sorry, another linked opened... or maybe you changed it. Regardless, they did not poll parents but registered voters

You know it. I control that news site and changed the date in five minutes so that you don’t appear to have made a mistake. Gotcha.

Sure, Danny. Anything else I can change for you?


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[DannyTS]

Glad you changed your post, since you initially wrote that parents were 4x more likely to approve in school education, when it is the opposite.

This poll doesn’t agree with you, but there are so many out there and so many with different criteria, number of respondents, etc, that is difficult to get a final result.


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It happens to the best of us But still, almost 4 to 1 they favor returning to school so I am not sure what you were trying to prove

 

[Ken555]

Great, that’s MI . In Illinois , as @needvaca has pointed out, we want our schools open and survey after survey justify that.

What I found interesting was the comment in the Gallup article:

Parents residing in the West (74%) are more worried about their children getting the coronavirus than parents in the Northeast (65%), South (62%) and Midwest (52%), with increases of between 14 and 25 percentage points since the prior survey in all regions.

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[DannyTS]

You know it. I control that news site and changed the date in five minutes so that you don’t appear to have made a mistake. Gotcha.

Sure, Danny. Anything else I can change for you?


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you are good indeed, this is what opened at the time

https://ssl2002.webhosting.comcast.net/epic-mra/press/Stwd_Survey_June2020_FreePress_Freq.pdf

 

[Ken555]

It happens to the best of us But still, almost 4 to 1 they favor returning to school so I am not sure what you were trying to prove

What am *I* trying to prove? You don’t even live in the country. What are *you* trying to prove?

And it’s not 4:1. But you didn’t read the polls I just posted, so...


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[Ken555]

you are good indeed, this is what opened at the time

https://ssl2002.webhosting.comcast.net/epic-mra/press/Stwd_Survey_June2020_FreePress_Freq.pdf

Don’t know where you found that. The links I posted are in text and TUG/Tapatalk converts them to URLs. I did not post the link you refer to here.


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[DannyTS]

What am *I* trying to prove? You don’t even live in the country. What are *you* trying to prove?

And it’s not 4:1. But you didn’t read the polls I just posted, so...


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If I do not live in the country it means I am more neutral? Ken, I thought you had blocked me. I see you cannot live without me though, I will take it as a compliment