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Saving Points into Future Use Years, did they screw us over for this year?

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They said something during the meeting today. Wyndham resale points have to be saved to RCI like five months ahead. So it's too late for 2021 points. That is my understanding.
Ahhh. I missed that. I'm hoping someone misspoke. That would be terrible.
 

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Maybe I misunderstood because I "pretend deposited" points to RCI and could do it with my resale points, so I am absolutely wrong about that. My connection kept pausing during the meeting, so I was getting choppy information and must have thought he said RCI deposits.

When I attempted to deposit the resale points into next use year in Wyndham, I couldn't do that. I got this message:

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Please select your purchase type and enter the number of points you would like to save for a future Use Year. (I selected my resale points)
Your resale points are not eligible to deposit more than three months into the current Use Year.
 

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They said something during the meeting today. Wyndham resale points have to be saved to RCI like five months ahead. So it's too late for 2021 points. That is my understanding.
You should be able to deposit into RCI anytime.

However I was trying to save by 2021 points into 2022 and you can for this year for resale points only if YOU are VIP, if you are regular the usual time applies. But since they changed the dates on VIP accounts for the deadline that deposit points are, this year only you have to request it from owner care and you have to call.

So Resale points have to be deposited in the first 3 months of the use year. Developer points follow the previous rules, which vary based on your level.

Interesting in that OC person said you have to pay to deposit each point buck separately, at $49 for the phone version, which they are charging, even though you can't do it online at the reduced rate.
 

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Maybe I misunderstood because I "pretend deposited" points to RCI and could do it with my resale points, so I am absolutely wrong about that. My connection kept pausing during the meeting, so I was getting choppy information and must have thought he said RCI deposits.

When I attempted to deposit the resale points into next use year in Wyndham, I couldn't do that. I got this message:

Points to Deposit
Please select your purchase type and enter the number of points you would like to save for a future Use Year. (I selected my resale points)
Your resale points are not eligible to deposit more than three months into the current Use Year.
The first post in this thread I noted that Cindy. You have to call, and they will allow you, this year only to pay $49 to deposit your resale point, until the end of this year.
 

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I thought the time limits for depositing points into future use years was only for depositing into a future use year for Wyndham, not RCI. I thought for depositing into RCI you had until the last day of the use year, regardless of if it was resale or not. Is this a change?
 

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The first post in this thread I noted that Cindy. You have to call, and they will allow you, this year only to pay $49 to deposit your resale point, until the end of this year.
What I really did misunderstand was the RCI deposits, and I did see that you were talking about Wyndham 2021 points. Thank you for the post because it made me look to see what I could and couldn't do for this year. Everything has changed with our ownership, owning about half VIP Platinum Founders and half resale points. Using resale doesn't seem all that difficult, as long as I put them into RCI or book some off-season weeks at Bonnet Creek, which is the only time we go to Orlando, anyway.

I am going to deposit the points we have left (resale) to RCI for this year. It's only 150,050 left for 2021. I could use them in RCI for Disney.
 

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I thought the time limits for depositing points into future use years was only for depositing into a future use year for Wyndham, not RCI. I thought for depositing into RCI you had until the last day of the use year, regardless of if it was resale or not. Is this a change?
That is my understanding too.

The change is that VIP owners had a modified schedule on when they could deposit points into future years in Wyndham. Now basically they have two dates; the standard 3 months into use year for resale points, and whatever their VIP status allows for Developer points I also got that they are going to charge them to deposit each group of points separately, so as to collect twice the fees.
 

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That is my understanding too.

The change is that VIP owners had a modified schedule on when they could deposit points into future years in Wyndham. Now basically they have two dates; the standard 3 months into use year for resale points, and whatever their VIP status allows for Developer points I also got that they are going to charge them to deposit each group of points separately, so as to collect twice the fees.
Ok, I knew that, but someone mentioned the issue was depositing into RCI, so I was confused by that statement. I also thought they were going to let people deposit into future UY up through 12/31/21 if you called, so if you can do that, I would do that if you dont need any more RCI points
 

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The way I understand it too is that the hk credits and transaction credits (which would matter less because even if you move points to use next year you could make the reservations this year, to use this year's left over transactions credits if any) won't move with the points. So you already have $159 hk fee to use your this years points for each reservation unless you can squeeze out extras by booking longer stays with larger units with resale points next year.
 

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They screwed me over by making two reservations I had made for next year both have partial resale and partial developer points. So they burned through my 2 free HK and TNS Fee without me even doing anything. Stupid thing was, there was NO reason to split them. I had plenty of points available to just book them as all developer. But they did not.

So I know I have 1 HK to pay and 1 TNS fee to pay on a upcoming Resale booking I know I was planning on making in 2022. I just didn't plan to be out of both Free HK and TNS fees. I guess I can always cancel and rebook one of those bookings that burned them. I will still be out of TNS fees but at least I could get a HK credit back.

Also they will get an extra $49 to save my resale points on top of what they would have gotten for just saving points. As I have been told you have to pay this fee twice. I haven't yet tried but that is what I was told.
 
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So I know I have 1 HK to pay and 1 TNS fee to pay on a upcoming Resale booking I know I was planning on making in 2022.
If you are planning on actually booking the reservation in 2022, you will have your 2022 RTs by then (issued on 1/1). The real issue is the HK cost, though. RTs are small potatoes.
 

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The mathematics of saving points.

You can do BOTH point type (Resale and Developer) deposits at the same time, provided the rules and timing allow you to do so. For RESALE points you must do it within the first 3 months of the use year. But apparently you should be able to elect to do multiple conversion types for the same online $39 fee. If you don't deposit them at the same time (which I likely won't) then you will have to pay separately for each deposit when requested. For VIPP that have until the end of the use year, that just means doing it twice for most of us.

So THIS year with the rule change midyear, VIPs can still deposit Resale points that are past the 3 month rule, but it must be by Phone (844-991-0921). If you have a different use year you, you may be able to do it online.

But at what point does it make sense to save points.

On line the fee is $39 per transactions , over the phone $49. Renting points is $12/K so DON'T bother saving your points if you can rent the amount of points remaining for less money than the cost of saving the points.

So at $39 online, If you have MORE than 3250 points and you think you could use them then save them, otherwise just leave them, IF you even need them then rent them instead. At $49 calling, If you have MORE than 4083 then save them, otherwise forget it.

Saving only makes sense if you have enough points to make use of it. I will have 75K Resale and not sure exactly how much Developer, depends on what I pick up, rebook or cancel before the end of the year. I moved the 75K today and I am making a 4 BR PH booking for SRP opening tomorrow. That likely will not end up available during the discount window, so planning on burning all my available Resale points on that transaction.
 

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The mathematics of saving points.

You can do BOTH point type (Resale and Developer) deposits at the same time, provided the rules and timing allow you to do so. For RESALE points you must do it within the first 3 months of the use year. But apparently you should be able to elect to do multiple conversion types for the same online $39 fee. If you don't deposit them at the same time (which I likely won't) then you will have to pay separately for each deposit when requested. For VIPP that have until the end of the use year, that just means doing it twice for most of us.

So THIS year with the rule change midyear, VIPs can still deposit Resale points that are past the 3 month rule, but it must be by Phone (844-991-0921). If you have a different use year you, you may be able to do it online.

But at what point does it make sense to save points.

On line the fee is $39 per transactions , over the phone $49. Renting points is $12/K so DON'T bother saving your points if you can rent the amount of points remaining for less money than the cost of saving the points.

So at $39 online, If you have MORE than 3250 points and you think you could use them then save them, otherwise just leave them, IF you even need them then rent them instead. At $49 calling, If you have MORE than 4083 then save them, otherwise forget it.

Saving only makes sense if you have enough points to make use of it. I will have 75K Resale and not sure exactly how much Developer, depends on what I pick up, rebook or cancel before the end of the year. I moved the 75K today and I am making a 4 BR PH booking for SRP opening tomorrow. That likely will not end up available during the discount window, so planning on burning all my available Resale points on that transaction.
That matches the reasoning I've been using. I even set up my tracking sheet in Excel to show 0 points to PDF if I get below 3250 left in a use year. Try to avoid that by planning ahead and borrowing points for a reservation from the FUY to actually get down to zero instead, but this year they comped the PDF since I had to call in and do it instead of do it online, so I moved some points forward.
 

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That matches the reasoning I've been using. I even set up my tracking sheet in Excel to show 0 points to PDF if I get below 3250 left in a use year. Try to avoid that by planning ahead and borrowing points for a reservation from the FUY to actually get down to zero instead, but this year they comped the PDF since I had to call in and do it instead of do it online, so I moved some points forward.
I did not get mine comped I had to pay for it. How did you get a fee deposit? I even tried to get it reduced to $39 as there is no online and they would not go for that either.
 

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I did not get mine comped I had to pay for it. How did you get a fee deposit? I even tried to get it reduced to $39 as there is no online and they would not go for that either.
If I knew that, I'd keep getting it done for free. Guess they just felt sorry for me.
 
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