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I was able to quickly google some questions while we were on our presentation and luckily found this forum. We were really close to signing on the dotted line. So thank you so much!
I’m reading as much as I can to educate myself but I searched and didn’t come up with much on the South Lake Tahoe resort. I noticed it’s HVC vs HGVC which is not confusing at all. Do points still work there or is there an exchange fee?
 

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Adding to my post here, so I see now that you need HGVMax to book but also possible through rci which is “cash” only I guess? Any clarity would be appreciated!
 

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I was able to quickly google some questions while we were on our presentation and luckily found this forum. We were really close to signing on the dotted line. So thank you so much!
I’m reading as much as I can to educate myself but I searched and didn’t come up with much on the South Lake Tahoe resort. I noticed it’s HVC vs HGVC which is not confusing at all. Do points still work there or is there an exchange fee?
HVC is the former Diamond system. HGV bought out Diamond in 2021 and renamed them Hilton Vacation Club (HVC). It’s a trust based system where you don’t purchase a deed to a particular resort, but a trust that holds all of the weeks. The former Diamond resorts are generally lower in quality, but there are a few that are on par with the Hilton Grand Vacation Club properties (HGVC). Tahoe is an HVC resorts. If you aren’t purchasing a deed, you are not purchasing into HGVC.

Hilton Grand Vacations (HGV) is the overall company of HGVC, HVC and Hilton Club. You can book between HGVC and Hilton Club during their club booking season, but you can’t book between HGVC/Hilton Club and HVC unless you are a Max member (bought directly from HGVC after April 2022) and that’s only at 6 months. Usually all of the best weeks are booked at that time. There’s also an exchange system called DEX that will allow you to cross book, but that’s not available to everybody. HGV also purchased another system last November called BlueGreen, but they aren’t integrated yet. We don’t know what they will be called, but I’m sure it will be similar to the other systems. Oh yeah, there’s a stand alone property in NY called The Hilton Club, but only The Hilton Club owners can book there. It’s not part of Hilton Club. Got it? Make sure you study for your test tomorrow.

I believe HGV names their systems very similar to confuse potential purchasers on buying into a system when they think they are buying into another. This is a big disappointment in HGV management. The HGVC system, when bought resale is awesome. We have enjoyed our resale ownership tremendously and will purchase more resale at some point.
 

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HVC is the former Diamond system. HGV bought out Diamond in 2021 and renamed them Hilton Vacation Club (HVC). It’s a trust based system where you don’t purchase a deed to a particular resort, but a trust that holds all of the weeks. The former Diamond resorts are generally lower in quality, but there are a few that are on par with the Hilton Grand Vacation Club properties (HGVC). Tahoe is an HVC resorts. If you aren’t purchasing a deed, you are not purchasing into HGVC.

Hilton Grand Vacations (HGV) is the overall company of HGVC, HVC and Hilton Club. You can book between HGVC and Hilton Club during their club booking season, but you can’t book between HGVC/Hilton Club and HVC unless you are a Max member (bought directly from HGVC after April 2022) and that’s only at 6 months. Usually all of the best weeks are booked at that time. There’s also an exchange system called DEX that will allow you to cross book, but that’s not available to everybody. HGV also purchased another system last November called BlueGreen, but they aren’t integrated yet. We don’t know what they will be called, but I’m sure it will be similar to the other systems. Oh yeah, there’s a stand alone property in NY called The Hilton Club, but only The Hilton Club owners can book there. It’s not part of Hilton Club. Got it? Make sure you study for your test tomorrow.

I believe HGV names their systems very similar to confuse potential purchasers on buying into a system when they think they are buying into another. This is a big disappointment in HGV management. The HGVC system, when bought resale is awesome. We have enjoyed our resale ownership tremendously and will purchase more resale at some point.
Thank you, yeah it’s a lot to take in. I have most of the above worked out but specifically Tahoe I just have to deal with that separately I guess. Try to get HH points and do it that way. Trying to figure out the best way to save on our annual ski trip haha
 

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Yeah that makes sense. I haven’t bought yet but I’m trying to make a HGVC resale purchase work for us and I’m most interested in making Tahoe work. And not having to buy into HVC or anything else.
 

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Yeah that makes sense. I haven’t bought yet but I’m trying to make a HGVC resale purchase work for us and I’m most interested in making Tahoe work. And not having to buy into HVC or anything else.
Resale is the way to go. There are so many available that it can often take some (unreasonable) time to complete the transfer, but with reasonable sellers, they can make a reservation for a buyer (you) before title is finalized. Another way to get a desirable week it to contact the resort and ask if they keep a list of owners who may want to sell.

Always ask questions on TUG. We don't have a motive to undercut your offer to buy, and have no reason to lie to you. Consider paying the exorbitant cost of $15 a year to become a TUG member to get the resort reviews and to view TUG without ads. And Brian needs the money. :)

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Another option for Tahoe is to use HGVC or HVC points for a trade in RCI (the exchange company that trades with other timeshare systems). The RCI exchange fee is higher than exchanging within the Hilton system, but it might get you the dates you need.
 

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Awesome, is there a way to look into this stuff without buying and becoming a member? I guess I’ll try to find a good deal on a deed and go from there. I’ll look into exchange rates etc.
 

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Another option should be to trade via DEX. Personnally I wouldn’t buy into HVC trust TS system. Most of their ownerships are worthless. So it will be hard to get rid of. HGVC resale is very good TS system IMO. You could buy Craigendarroch Lodge and use the HGVC system and also trade into HVC via DEX.
 

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Awesome, is there a way to look into this stuff without buying and becoming a member? I guess I’ll try to find a good deal on a deed and go from there. I’ll look into exchange rates etc.
There is currently no availability through RCI via HGVC for any dates at Lake Tahoe Resort, A Hilton Vacation Club.

There is availability at other RCI resorts in Tahoe throughout winter 2024-2025, except Christmas. However, the units might only be studios, and the resorts might not be the quality that you are hoping for.
 

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There are 2 former DRI Resorts that are now HVC in the South Lake Tahoe area.

"Seasons" is uphill next to a Ski Lift. So it is about a mile drive into South Lake Tahoe. It has no Kitchens and small Coffee Pots (only makes about 2 Mugs). We went to Goodwill and got a 12 cup Mr Coffee for $9. There was a Microwave (not convection) and 3/4 sized Frig. We just stayed there for 12 days. Got home tonight. We knew about the no kitchens and so we took a Hot Plate, Skillet, Pot, Air Fryer, and Kitchen Tools. So we did fine.

Lake side there is the HVC Lake Tahoe Resort South. It has regular Condos with full kitchens.

Beware of Booking into a HVC (formerly DRI) through RCI. HVC has continued the DRI practice of charging Daily Resort Fees and in many times a Daily Parking Fee for Booking through an Exchange Organization. For HVC Lake Tahoe Resort South these 2 fees add up to about $53 per day.
 

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Why not buy a resale deed week for Tahoe? This will give you the season and room you want. It would also give you week trades in DEX when you want to go elsewhere.
 
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There are 2 former DRI Resorts that are now HVC in the South Lake Tahoe area.

"Seasons" is uphill next to a Ski Lift. So it is about a mile drive into South Lake Tahoe. It has no Kitchens and small Coffee Pots (only makes about 2 Mugs). We went to Goodwill and got a 12 cup Mr Coffee for $9. There was a Microwave (not convection) and 3/4 sized Frig. We just stayed there for 12 days. Got home tonight. We knew about the no kitchens and so we took a Hot Plate, Skillet, Pot, Air Fryer, and Kitchen Tools. So we did fine.

Lake side there is the HVC Lake Tahoe Resort South. It has regular Condos with full kitchens.

Beware of Booking into a HVC (formerly DRI) through RCI. HVC has continued the DRI practice of charging Daily Resort Fees and in many times a Daily Parking Fee for Booking through an Exchange Organization. For HVC Lake Tahoe Resort South these 2 fees add up to about $53 per day.
Thank you for this info, I’ve now been looking into just renting from owners and it looks interesting! Thanks everybody!
 

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HGVC was tuff enuff to get a handle on without throwing DRI-HVC into the mix... But you have to buy retail (or Scotland) to get the "Max" overlay that allows cross booking (at 6 months out) so in reality, its a nothing-burger for us legacy HGVC club members and resale buyers.
 
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Thank you, yeah it’s a lot to take in. I have most of the above worked out but specifically Tahoe I just have to deal with that separately I guess. Try to get HH points and do it that way. Trying to figure out the best way to save on our annual ski trip haha
If you’re looking to save for your annual ski trip, that’s going to add another level of difficulty to planning and purchasing. Read everything you can and look at other timeshares in the area. IMHO you may be better off looking into a fixed week such as presidents week. Many timeshares over the years have sold deeded fixed weeks for a premium for particular holidays. For ski weeks, presidents week strikes me as a common premium week.

If you’re looking specifically at Lake Tahoe, I’d consider the Marriott resort and The Ridge Tahoe as options. Resale weeks at The Ridge are often affordable on the resale market. The Ridge has been thru a few management companies. I believe they’re currently in the Holiday Inn group. The Ridge sold deeded weeks, not points or a trust. You may be able to find a fixed week/fixed unit during ski season for a reasonable price.
 

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If you’re looking to save for your annual ski trip, that’s going to add another level of difficulty to planning and purchasing. Read everything you can and look at other timeshares in the area. IMHO you may be better off looking into a fixed week such as presidents week. Many timeshares over the years have sold deeded fixed weeks for a premium for particular holidays. For ski weeks, presidents week strikes me as a common premium week.

If you’re looking specifically at Lake Tahoe, I’d consider the Marriott resort and The Ridge Tahoe as options. Resale weeks at The Ridge are often affordable on the resale market. The Ridge has been thru a few management companies. I believe they’re currently in the Holiday Inn group. The Ridge sold deeded weeks, not points or a trust. You may be able to find a fixed week/fixed unit during ski season for a reasonable price.
We were just in Tahoe at the end of September. We stayed at the Seasons property which as noted is right next door to one of the ski lifts. It looked like Marriott had maybe two different properties right at the base of the Heavenly gondola in the heart of South Tahoe. There are tons of shops and restaurants all around the Marriott properties and the casinos are a block over. The other Hilton property that is lakeside is not quite as close to the lifts as these other properties. One thing to note for winter weather would be that the Seasons property is up a very steep hill that had signs calling for chains on your car. I have never been to Tahoe during the winter so I am not sure how effectively they clear the roads.
 

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Thank you for this info, I’ve now been looking into just renting from owners and it looks interesting! Thanks everybody!

Welcome to TUG @808Drifter

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Does anyone own a deeded week at the Lake Tahoe Hilton Grand, I'm going to purchase a County foreclosured TS, any feedback?
The only information available is that these timeshares are Univeral ODD, EVEN or Annual.
No information on unit size or maintenance fees..
 

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It is the former Embassy Grand Vacations Lake Tahoe, eventually taken over by Diamond, and now part of Hilton Vacation Club.
 

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If you’re looking to save for your annual ski trip, that’s going to add another level of difficulty to planning and purchasing. Read everything you can and look at other timeshares in the area. IMHO you may be better off looking into a fixed week such as presidents week. Many timeshares over the years have sold deeded fixed weeks for a premium for particular holidays. For ski weeks, presidents week strikes me as a common premium week.

If you’re looking specifically at Lake Tahoe, I’d consider the Marriott resort and The Ridge Tahoe as options. Resale weeks at The Ridge are often affordable on the resale market. The Ridge has been thru a few management companies. I believe they’re currently in the Holiday Inn group. The Ridge sold deeded weeks, not points or a trust. You may be able to find a fixed week/fixed unit during ski season for a reasonable price.
Totally free weeks at the Ridge Tahoe are regularly available at timeshare nation.com. There are no closing costs or transfer fees. You assume the maintenance fees, and that's it! Also check Ebay if you need more options and are looking to purchase a specific week. I've been a timeshare owner since 1998 and gave gone to the Ridge many times, including last summer, and it is fabulous. However, you need a little luck on your side during check-in to get one of the better buildings. None are bad, some are just better - like The Tower which is conveniently located by the clubhouse or the Cascades which is the nicest. Good luck!
 
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