Rosarito Beach , Baja California

[jasavak]

Anyone have any advice on Rosarito beach area ? I know there are at least 4 Timeshare properties in the area. Are they difficult to get summer weeks ?

 

[jasavak]

Anyone own TS in Rosarito Beach ?

How has the experience been ? Do they trade well with exchange companies ? I noticed a few available with reasonable maintenance fees .

I noticed a few different ones : Rosarito Beach Hotel suites , Grand Baja and La Paloma . Anyone have any feedback or experiences to share ? Thanks for your help , James

 

[DeniseM]

There is far more supply than demand for Mexican timeshares, plus - it's awfully close to the border. In general, Mexican timeshares do not have strong trading power. I would NOT buy in that area for a trader.

Have you checked the TUG reviews? http://tug2.com/RnR/ResortsGrid.aspx?ResortArea=8&ResortGroup=84

 

[jasavak]

There is far more supply than demand for Mexican timeshares, plus - it's awfully close to the border. In general, Mexican timeshares do not have strong trading power. I would NOT buy in that area for a trader.

Have you checked the TUG reviews? http://tug2.com/RnR/ResortsGrid.aspx?ResortArea=8&ResortGroup=84

I realize Rosarito is close to the border . That is one of the reasons that makes it so different than other areas in Mexico . Also , unlike many areas in Mexico , summer is the high season because of the cool north Pacific breeze .

For these reasons , I want to avoid generalizations because there are so many areas , seasons and different qualities of resorts in Mexico .
Saying Mexico has no trading power is sort of like saying the United States has no trading power .

I would like to visit the area on a yearly basis to escape the heat of the Texas summer , but don't know what the best options are .

Best wishes , James

 

[DeniseM]

James -

It's not just a generalization:

1) Mexico has too many timeshares - there is more supply than demand - therefore trading power is poor.

2) Travel to Mexico is depressed and the border towns have the worst violence.

3) The resorts in this area are not high in quality - look at the ratings and reviews.

You asked for opinions and I'm giving you mine, with facts to back it up - it won't be a strong trader.

 

[Passepartout]

I will 2nd Denise's opinion. Rosarito is more like Tijuana than like other Mexican resort towns. I have been there believe it or not on a cruise ship stop. It isn't all that attractive. Unless you are into the Hussongs Cantina type attraction.

There is a TUGger who lives part time in Rosarita Beach, but I've forgotten her username. If it comes to me, I'll PM the OP.

The border violence has not bypassed N.W. Mexico- as opposed to Cabo which is off the track of the drug cartels.

An advantage of it is you can easily drive there- in your own car. - Rental companies don't want their cars to cross the border.

In an earlier incarnation, I kept a place at San Felipe, near where the Colorado River empties into the Sea of Cortez. There are TS resorts there now.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

Jim Ricks

 

[ChrisandBeth]

I own WorldMark, which owns a property in Rosarito. Availability for Rosarito is never an issue.

 

[jasavak]

The U.S. has borders with Mexico and should be avoided

James -

It's not just a generalization:

1) Mexico has too many timeshares - there is more supply than demand - therefore trading power is poor.

2) Travel to Mexico is depressed and the border towns have the worst violence.

3) The resorts in this area are not high in quality - look at the ratings and reviews.

You asked for opinions and I'm giving you mine, with facts to back it up - it won't be a strong trader.

I’ve already read all the reviews on most of the timeshares in the area. I guess you didn’t because they seem to be very favorable for being rated as “ standard “ rather than silver or gold .

I did send a message to the member who spends half the year in Rosarito . However , I have not yet received a reply .
I've driven through Rosarito beach dozens of times , but know very little about timeshares in the area.

Also , I have visited nearly every state in the Mexican Republican . I have traveled by bus , plane and the old train system . I have driven as far south as Oaxaca and Cabo San Lucas . I caught a near record dorado in the tiny fishing village of Mulege and have made several trips to Leon Gto . I admit I am ignorant to timeshares , but Mexico is not new to me . One must realize there are many areas and many resorts from good , bad , ugly and superb . Is a 3,000 s.f. Villa in a 5 star resort in Cancun on New Years the same as a motel unit on the border during off season ?

Let’s use the same generalizations for the U.S. Branson in February = Hawaii in June or Ft. Lauderdale during spring break . All are the same. All resorts in the U.S are the same and all seasons and locations don’t matter . Crime in Detroit means Vegas should be avoided. San Diego and Los Angeles are pretty close to the border so I should avoid the entire country .

 

[DeniseM]

You may love Rosarito - you may love Mexico - that doesn't change the fact that it has poor trading power. Trading power is based on demand for exchanges - the demand doesn't exist.

As far as ratings - this is what I found-

WIVC La Paloma (6677 LPA) - 7.21

WorldMark Rosarito Beach/Worldmark La Paloma (6370 WLP) - 7.08

Rosarito Beach Vacation Suites (0737) - 6.67​

7 out of 10 is the equivalent of a "C" - how is that going to give you high trading power?

People do not want to go to Mexico, and stay at a mediocre timeshare, in a border town. YMMV

 

[jasavak]

Mexico . Love it or hate it.

I understand you hate Mexico , but please try not generalize an entire country like it is a single city .

Although Grand Luxxe in Riviera Maya has one of the highest ratings in the entire world , my question is about Rosarito beach summer options . I am trying to seek information on Summer availability .

If anyone has any useful tips on ways to get good summer deals for this filthy border town , I would greatly appreciate it .

 

[jasavak]

Summer usage

I own WorldMark, which owns a property in Rosarito. Availability for Rosarito is never an issue.

I noticed you are from Canada . Did you ever book in the summer ? Is it the La Paloma ?

 

[DeniseM]

James - I don't hate Mexico at all - I'm merely presenting facts that you apparently don't want to hear.

It's easy to buy, rent, trade into Rosarito any time of the year - go for it.

I hate to burst your bubble, but right now you can rent a week at the Grand Luxxe for $49.57 a night on Interval International - I'm looking at it. Why buy in Mexico with rental prices like that?

 

[jasavak]

Who loves Mexico ?

I also never said I loved Mexico . Generally speaking , it's a dump just like California .

That's why we moved out of California .

Speaking of California , last year I was able to rent a room in San Francisco at the Parc 55 for $85 a night . Now the rooms are $300 .

Was there a change in quality ? No , the main reason they offer these bargains is because they want to they try to sell you their product in the future . I receive emails and postcards from the Parc 55 often .

Trading power and price of a resort are separate issues .

I hope you folks are right and this summer there will be no trouble finding bargains in this pathetic border town .

 

[jasavak]

Heck of a bargain

Denise , I saw that Grand Luxxe deal last week. It is a heck of a bargain at $350 a week . That studio is around 900 square feet . The price on those units is probably around $50,000 . That's around $49,900 more than I want to spend . That's almost temping enough for someone who hates Mexico to want to go .

 

[DeniseM]

James - The answer I gave to your question about the trade value of a timeshare in Rosarito was factual, based on years of experience and the shared experiences of Tuggers.

Trading is based on supply and demand - period. If you own a top resort, in a great location, that's not overbuilt, during high season - it will have good demand.

If you own a mediocre resort, in a mediocre location, that's overbuilt, during low season - it will have poor demand.

These are facts that can be applied to any location - Florida, and Las Vegas are in the same situation as Mexico - it's not something you should take personally.

 

[buceo]

It is annoying to still be going down this "Mexican" path. My "Mexican" timeshares rent out great every year, I've hardly ever tried trading & only then it was within resort. I checked my "Mexican" timeshares against Denise's Hawaii rentals a year ago or so, in a post not unlike this one and they held up fine. Lumping together the whole country and "it won't be a strong trader" is still not and never will be helpful.

 

[Passepartout]

I hate to burst your bubble, but right now you can rent a week at the Grand Luxxe for $49.57 a night on Interval International - I'm looking at it. Why buy in Mexico with rental prices like that?

OMG! if you do this and the person next to you at the pool bar is named Sally, for heaven's sake don't tell her what you are paying!

Jim

 

[Karen G]

OMG! if you do this and the person next to you at the pool bar is named Sally, for heaven's sake don't tell her what you are paying!

Jim

LOL! Touche´, Passepartout!

 

[jasavak]

I agree . Its a country , not one resort .

It is annoying to still be going down this "Mexican" path. My "Mexican" timeshares rent out great every year, I've hardly ever tried trading & only then it was within resort. I checked my "Mexican" timeshares against Denise's Hawaii rentals a year ago or so, in a post not unlike this one and they held up fine. Lumping together the whole country and "it won't be a strong trader" is still not and never will be helpful.

I just found out that there are only 22 timeshare units available at the La Paloma in Rosarito .


I was lucky enough to trade my 2 Westgate Town center weeks for 2 weeks in July at the La Paloma W.I.V.C. I have a feeling they are either booked solid all summer or the 2 bedrooms rent for more than $1,000 a week.


We just returned from the Royal Caribbean in Cancun and I was impressed . The Royal properties also have some of the highest rankings .


The Grand Luxxe and Royal Haciendas are offering bargains at the moment because they are trying to attract fresh bodies to promote new timeshare sales during their off season.

 

[DeniseM]

It is annoying to still be going down this "Mexican" path. My "Mexican" timeshares rent out great every year, I've hardly ever tried trading & only then it was within resort. I checked my "Mexican" timeshares against Denise's Hawaii rentals a year ago or so, in a post not unlike this one and they held up fine. Lumping together the whole country and "it won't be a strong trader" is still not and never will be helpful.

Glenn - please re-read my post - I was very specific about Rosarito not being a strong trader.

But I stand by my statement - MOST Mexican timeshares are not strong traders - too much supply.

Do you get $3,600 a week for your Mexican rentals? That's what I get for my Maui rental....

I'm done here - the OP wants his own views supported - not factual info...

 

[buceo]

... In general, Mexican timeshares do not have strong trading power...

Personally I didn't find it worth reading the first time but OK I read it again and it's your over generalization to the entire country that many of us point out time and again that is the problem. I doubt "you're out of here" you always come back with the same statement.

I'd suggest instead of ever generalizing "Mexican" again, just insert "The Royal Resorts and all other timeshares in Mexico are poor traders, easy to get, not worth it, etc" to make your "Mexican" timeshare point.

And no my timeshares rent for half that much and airfares are a lot less too

 

[jasavak]

I should have been more specific

I am searching for my options for Rosarito in the summer , not generalizations on the country of Mexico .

The United States time shares have poor trading power that's why I personally avoid timeshares in Hawaii .

They have notoriously high maintenance fees and special assessments . Also , they impose a special higher state tax formula . Why would anyone want those hassles ? Also , we can fly to Cancun in 2hrs , 10 minutes or $300 RT ! . The problem with Hawaii is that it is on a what the airlines refer to as a " Dead end Route " that sits far outside the common air traffic routes .

http://www.ilikaiowners.com/category/timeshare-shell-vacations-club/

 

[beach_bumz]

I just checked the Worldmark La Paloma inventory and it's wide open all summer. If you're looking to purchase another t/s, Worldmark has awesome trading power and low maint. fees.

 

[jasavak]

Worldmark information

I just checked the Worldmark La Paloma inventory and it's wide open all summer. If you're looking to purchase another t/s, Worldmark has awesome trading power and low maint. fees.

Are the Worldmark units different from the W.I.V.C units ? What's a good way to get into Worldmark ?

 

[ladyjadegd]

Love La Paloma

I've been going to La Paloma for 25 years. I actually just submitted a very detailed review for the property, but it hasn't been reviewed yet, I guess, because it isn't showing up in the resort reviews.

Overall, I find La Paloma to be an awesome value. The price is amazing and the maintenance fees are quite low. We NEVER trade it, so can't really comment on the trade value, but I tell you this, if you want to stay in the summer, you have to book 12 months out. It's very popular. The setting is really beautiful and the units are very well maintained.

I have not stayed in the Worldmark units, but I had a friend who briefly owned with Worldmark and she said they were similar, but it has been years since I had the discussion, so I can't really give info on that. Ours is through WIVC.

Living in Southern California, we love that it is a border town because it is a short drive to get there and we bring the house with us.

Feel free to contact me with any other questions.

Jennifer