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Reserved HRC Kaanapali in December

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So with the recent Lahaina disaster, a few 2BRs have popped up on the HRC internal site for HRC Kaanapali. I'm guessing there will be more in the next few days. I was able to book a week in December that otherwise would not have been available. I agree with the sentiment expressed by @Passepartout in a related thread that as soon as they can handle visitors, folks should continue going there. The Maui economy will not stop needing visitors and visitor dollars because Lahaina burned down. In fact, they will need those dollars even more.
 

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I booked my December trip as well. It should be someone's cancellation.

My thought is that Mauri does need tourist spending to help with rebuilding effort. Lahaina was badly damaged. However, Mauri has lots to offer besides Lahaina old town. After 3 months, most of infrastructure should be back on line.
 

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TBH, the main attractions for us would be relaxing and decompressing, and AVOIDING Lahaina. Lahaina is (was) quaint and awesome in its own way, but at our age, just not the big attraction.
 

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TBH, the main attractions for us would be relaxing and decompressing, and AVOIDING Lahaina. Lahaina is (was) quaint and awesome in its own way, but at our age, just not the big attraction.

I think people will very likely have to take the long way to HKB from the airport. That's a VERY long way. The direct route will probably be closed for months if not a couple years.

I could be proven wrong -- but this falls under "the difference between a want and a need." Construction crews, electrical workers and similar need the direct easy access. Everyone else can go around the volcano. (At least there's a lovely bay halfway for snorkeling.)

I don't think they'll be anywhere close to "open for business" by Christmas.
 

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I think people will very likely have to take the long way to HKB from the airport. That's a VERY long way. The direct route will probably be closed for months if not a couple years.

I could be proven wrong -- but this falls under "the difference between a want and a need." Construction crews, electrical workers and similar need the direct easy access. Everyone else can go around the volcano. (At least there's a lovely bay halfway for snorkeling.)

I don't think they'll be anywhere close to "open for business" by Christmas.
I'm going to go so far as to pretty much guarantee they will have the road open within weeks. There's no way to legitimately send people north and there are still a lot of residents that live up the highway who now need access to services that were once in Lahaina and now will be in town. That being said, I disagree that December is going to be an appropriate time to go. We were scheduled for Thanksgiving and there wasn't even a question about cancelling. It will be many months before basic services are restored. In the near term, no one will be prioritizing servicing kaanapali/kapalua tourism at the expense of local rebuilding.
 

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I'm going to go so far as to pretty much guarantee they will have the road open within weeks.

I agree the road will be open within weeks. Days is more likely.

But this is going to go straight to the Army Corps of Engineers and similar "big project" entities. I see trucks and heavy equipment plying that road like a swarm of angry bees. There is no place for tourist lookie-lou traffic in Lahaina or through Lahaina. And pleas of "our timeshare is just 10 miles north of the devastation" will be met with a reply of (think R. Lee Ermey) "tough [excrement]."
 

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And that's why we can't have nice things.

I'm surprised this lasted a whole four hours. The average dingbat is drawn to scenes like this like a bug to a zapper. The worst of the lot will want to take selfies like this is Pompeii. And then they'll have the unmitigated gall to ask, "Why don't the locals like having us here? We support their economy!"
 

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I'm surprised this lasted a whole four hours. The average dingbat is drawn to scenes like this like a bug to a zapper. The worst of the lot will want to take selfies like this is Pompeii. And then they'll have the unmitigated gall to ask, "Why don't the locals like having us here? We support their economy!"
From the reports I've heard, a lot of the problems came from locals who live in the area.
 

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From the reports I've heard, a lot of the problems came from locals who live in the area.

I'm hearing different reports -- people clustered together in one of the buildings still standing, not allowed to leave. (Or more accurately, if they leave, they can't return.) And Maui police being entirely tone-deaf to the needs of the living.
 

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I'm hearing different reports -- people clustered together in one of the buildings still standing, not allowed to leave. (Or more accurately, if they leave, they can't return.) And Maui police being entirely tone-deaf to the needs of the living.
A number of local people were going into areas that they were specifically told not to go into that were cordoned off for safety reasons. And when told to leave they got emotional and started physically battling the police. Even the news reports are stating that it was local residents, not visitors.
 

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A number of local people were going into areas that they were specifically told not to go into that were cordoned off for safety reasons. And when told to leave they got emotional and started physically battling the police. Even the news reports are stating that it was local residents, not visitors.

Both things can be true -- people being ill treated by the police and people disobeying lawful orders.

This is why I think the long way is going to be the only way for quite some time. This is going to take the same kind of effort as a mid-air collision to identify the dead. And having people sifting through rubble isn't going to help.

As bad as that is, I'm always going to default to "the needs of the living" -- shelter, water, medical treatment and food.
 

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Both things can be true -- people being ill treated by the police and people disobeying lawful orders.

This is why I think the long way is going to be the only way for quite some time. This is going to take the same kind of effort as a mid-air collision to identify the dead. And having people sifting through rubble isn't going to help.

As bad as that is, I'm always going to default to "the needs of the living" -- shelter, water, medical treatment and food.
I don't disagree. But people trying to go into areas they shouldn't have been had nothing to do with obtaining shelter, water, medical treatment and food.
 
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