Reservations & Lockoffs

[TXTortoise]

I think I know the answer, but...

Floating Unit...
2018 will be my first time to book my MOC 2BR OF floating unit. My Feb 2019 plans are fluid, but I want the option to use the 2BR or split and use only the 1BR or Lock-off. Same week.

I can reserve 13 months out in January. When I do, I assume I can request the date I want and ask to lock-off the unit, for which I think there is a fee.

Once done both units would have the same reservation and check-in date, so room location priority should be the same. If I want to use both units as a 2BR, I would just check-in for both on arrival. If I wanted to rent one or the other, then the appropriate process applies for the rental side and co-location isn't an issue.

While I could wait to lock-off if needed after getting the 2BR reservation, I would lose my early registration date, which is what MOC uses to prioritize room location assignments.

The only 'gotcha' I can think of is Room Control would see it as two units and may not be able to put them together at time of check-in, if I wanted to use it as a 2BR. Kind of a big 'gotcha' in that case.

Fixed Unit

Same scenario, but since I own the fixed week and unit, then I can just call to lock-off any time prior to arrival, with a fee. Since I own that week/unit, then there is no risk of units not being together at check-in, whether I use or rent either side.

Did I miss anything?

 

[VacationForever]

Let me try to answer... in the inserted text...

I think I know the answer, but...

Floating Unit...
2018 will be my first time to book my MOC 2BR OF floating unit. My Feb 2019 plans are fluid, but I want the option to use the 2BR or split and use only the 1BR or Lock-off. Same week.

I can reserve 13 months out in January. When I do, I assume I can request the date I want and ask to lock-off the unit, for which I think there is a fee.

Once done both units would have the same reservation and check-in date, so room location priority should be the same. If I want to use both units as a 2BR, I would just check-in for both on arrival. If I wanted to rent one or the other, then the appropriate process applies for the rental side and co-location isn't an issue.

I want to make sure you understand the 13 months rule. You need to book from 2 different timeshare weeks and have them run concurrently, consecutively or overlapping. Having 1 week and locking it off into 2 does not qualify to be booked at 13 months out.

Here is the issue... If you want to lockoff, you need to tell the agent upfront, otherwise a 2BR unit is booked and the agent needs to cancel that and rebook it as a lockoff.

If you lockoff, pay the fee, the agent will book the 2 sides and they will have 2 separate confirmation numbers.
While I could wait to lock-off if needed after getting the 2BR reservation, I would lose my early registration date, which is what MOC uses to prioritize room location assignments.

The only 'gotcha' I can think of is Room Control would see it as two units and may not be able to put them together at time of check-in, if I wanted to use it as a 2BR. Kind of a big 'gotcha' in that case.

Fixed Unit

Same scenario, but since I own the fixed week and unit, then I can just call to lock-off any time prior to arrival, with a fee. Since I own that week/unit, then there is no risk of units not being together at check-in, whether I use or rent either side.
I have no experience with this.

Did I miss anything?

 

[TXTortoise]

I think I know the answer, but...

Floating Unit...
2018 will be my first time to book my MOC 2BR OF floating unit. My Feb 2019 plans are fluid, but I want the option to use the 2BR or split and use only the 1BR or Lock-off. Same week.

I can reserve 13 months out in January. When I do, I assume I can request the date I want and ask to lock-off the unit, for which I think there is a fee.

Once done both units would have the same reservation and check-in date, so room location priority should be the same. If I want to use both units as a 2BR, I would just check-in for both on arrival. If I wanted to rent one or the other, then the appropriate process applies for the rental side and co-location isn't an issue.

I want to make sure you understand the 13 months rule. You need to book from 2 different timeshare weeks and have them run concurrently, consecutively or overlapping. Having 1 week and locking it off into 2 does not qualify to be booked at 13 months out.

I have a fixed week that is adjacent in time to the week I'm requesting with my float week, so that gets me the 13 month window.

Here is the issue... If you want to lockoff, you need to tell the agent upfront, otherwise a 2BR unit is booked and the agent needs to cancel that and rebook it as a lockoff.
Good point about denoting LO upfront, when seconds count.

If you lockoff, pay the fee, the agent will book the 2 sides and they will have 2 separate confirmation numbers.
While I could wait to lock-off if needed after getting the 2BR reservation, I would lose my early registration date, which is what MOC uses to prioritize room location assignments.
The two confirmation numbers is what puts the co-location at risk. I may ping Room Control for feedback, but my guess is they have to find a 1BR and 1 Studio adjacent to fill two confirmation numbers vs a 2BR they can split to match two confirmation numbers, and thinking through this, such a combination logically shouldn't occur. That is folks keep the 2BR or lock-off and deposit one side with II.

The only 'gotcha' I can think of is Room Control would see it as two units and may not be able to put them together at time of check-in, if I wanted to use it as a 2BR. Kind of a big 'gotcha' in that case.

Fixed Unit

Same scenario, but since I own the fixed week and unit, then I can just call to lock-off any time prior to arrival, with a fee. Since I own that week/unit, then there is no risk of units not being together at check-in, whether I use or rent either side.
I have no experience with this.

 

[dioxide45]

If you own a fixed week/unit at MOC Lahaina, I suspect the week following and perhaps the entire unit is fixed week/unit. So you won't be able to stay in the same villa for the entire stay if you are intending to try to do so? I don't think so since your float is in the old section?

As for reserving to lock off. Don't all 2BR units at MOC (old section) lock off? I don't think they have any dedicated 2BR units. So theoretically you should be able to reserve teh 2BR and if you want to later lock it off, you can call, pay the fee and do so. That however may reset your reservation time stamp, which it seems you want to avoid? Rooms control seems to be fairly accommodating, though there is always the risk that they can't put the units back together, they usually can. However, it is also possible to reserve the whole 2BR and have each side keyed and folio'd separately at checkin.

 

[VacationForever]

I own at DSV 1 and while they are all 2BR L/O, whenever I booked the entire unit, and then lockoff subsequently, they always had such a hard time doing so and had to get a supervisor or someone else to do so. Last year after the agent did that, the newly locked off units lost the Marriott Rewards number/connection and I called to add the MR # before it showed up on the Marriott.com rewards side. Then I did not receive the pre-arrival preference email. I called both the resort phone and MVC about not having received an email. The resort took down my preference on the phone. When I showed up, the front desk could not see it was an owner reservation and thought I had exchanged in. It was so messy that now I just lockoff upfront.