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Westgate Villas has contacted me four times in one week to have me disclose my lawyer. Though I do not have one, I did say that I did. This makes me feel that Westgate knows of lawyers that have successfully represented their clients in being released from the MF. Does anyone know of reputable lawyers who have successfully represented their clients with Westgate Villas?
 

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We don't know of any. All the upfront fee 'get you out of your timeshare' outfits we are aware of are scams designed to get more of your money. Have you listed it for free in the TUG Bargain Deals forum? People re-home TSs every day, and while Wastegate isn't one of our favorites, your fixed weeks do have value for those who want to use them. Far better than floating weeks.

Good Luck.

Jim
 

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why did you tell westgate villas that you had hired a attorney?

westgate has a surrender program if your timeshare is paid off, there is a link to it in the TUG "all other resort systems" forum.
 

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Westgate Villas has contacted me four times in one week to have me disclose my lawyer. Though I do not have one, I did say that I did. This makes me feel that Westgate knows of lawyers that have successfully represented their clients in being released from the MF. Does anyone know of reputable lawyers who have successfully represented their clients with Westgate Villas?

I wouldn't put anything past the likes of Westgate, but nonetheless have to say that I find it very strange that Westgate would reportedly contact you out of a clear blue sky (...and four times in one week), inexplicably asking about an attorney. Is there perhaps more factual background than you mention? Is there, for example, a big loan on which you are currently in default? :shrug: :ponder: :shrug:

In any event, I believe that your "feeling" is incorrect and unfounded. There are no attorneys with any mythical powers or any knowledge of secret passageways by which to somehow magically "exit" a valid and legally binding contract, voluntarily executed.
 
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Is your timeshare in Florida or South Carolina? Perhaps by identifying a lawyer it is an underhanded way to prove that you are objecting to foreclosure and thus you are unknowingly waiving your anti-deficiency protection so they can go after other assets than your timeshare. Check out the sticky on Timeshare laws by state for details on how this works.


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Is your timeshare in Florida or South Carolina? Perhaps by identifying a lawyer it is an underhanded way to prove that you are objecting to foreclosure and thus you are unknowingly waiving your anti-deficiency protection so they can go after other assets than your timeshare. Check out the sticky on Timeshare laws by state for details on how this works.


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Her TS is in FL. Her best bet is to deed back.

TS owners defaulting FL TS should just ignore the resorts to reserve their anti deficiency rights

@Christina Thompson if you default would you kindly let us know if your credit got affected? It would help tuggers moving forward.
 
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We don't know of any. All the upfront fee 'get you out of your timeshare' outfits we are aware of are scams designed to get more of your money. Have you listed it for free in the TUG Bargain Deals forum? People re-home TSs every day, and while Wastegate isn't one of our favorites, your fixed weeks do have value for those who want to use them. Far better than floating weeks.

Good Luck.

Jim
We don't know of any. All the upfront fee 'get you out of your timeshare' outfits we are aware of are scams designed to get more of your money. Have you listed it for free in the TUG Bargain Deals forum? People re-home TSs every day, and while Wastegate isn't one of our favorites, your fixed weeks do have value for those who want to use them. Far better than floating weeks.

Good Luck.

Jim


Hi Jim,

I have listed it on TUG Bargain Deals Forum. Not a nibble. Too bad. Westgate Resorts is so desireable given that it has so many locations throughout the US. I am thinking about walking away from my MF. The timeshare is fully paid for. I just wonder if they will pursue me in Canada.
 

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Hi Jim,

I have listed it on TUG Bargain Deals Forum. Not a nibble. Too bad. Westgate Resorts is so desireable given that it has so many locations throughout the US. I am thinking about walking away from my MF. The timeshare is fully paid for. I just wonder if they will pursue me in Canada.
I can't answer whether they'll pursue you if you default. Wastegate does have a surrender program. TUGBrian provided a link in his post above here.

Good Luck!
 
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They will not accept my unit as part of the surrender program. Believe me, I've tried at least 3 times.
 

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what was their reasoning behind rejecting you for the deedback program? is there still a balance owed on the loan? delinquent in dues?
 

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They will not accept my unit as part of the surrender program. Believe me, I've tried at least 3 times.

Did you contact their Legacy department directly (see link)? As Brian asked, what was the reason for rejecting your timeshares? One option, if they still reject the deedback, is to tell them you will not pay another dime and if they reject your timeshare under the Legacy program they can go through a costly foreclosure.

It is unfortunate that you haven’t have any bites on your timeshare. However, and you may not be aware of this, Westgate severely restricts resale buyers. Your fixed weeks helps but if the resale owner wanted to swap the week internally within the Westgate system they pay a significant fee with a short booking window.

 

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I have listed it on TUG Bargain Deals Forum. Not a nibble. Too bad. Westgate Resorts is so desireable given that it has so many locations throughout the US. I am thinking about walking away from my MF. The timeshare is fully paid for. I just wonder if they will pursue me in Canada.

I’ve been watching for a week 22 TS in the SE to add to my list and when I saw your post I was interested at first. You are right that Westgate has a desirable system if you purchased directly from them. It is a real shame how they have turned resale purchasers into the undesirable within their system. That treatment of resale owners is what caused me, and I am sure some others, to simply pass on your offer. Having said that, don’t give up yet on your post in the Bargain Basement section. Sometimes it takes a little while before the right person reads your post and starts a conversation. You would be surprised at how many posts sit for a few months then suddenly jump to life with conversations.

Also, as a Canadian I follow the posts about companies pursuing Canadians for defaulting in case I am ever in that situation. For the most part it appears that the TS management companies are reluctant to pursue in Canada, which may simply be because it costs too much for them to do so. They certainly could if they want but the stats reported here, as well as comments on other sites, do tent to support that they won’t at this time. So if you do choose to go that route, be sure to follow the process others have recommended, especially the actions recommended in non judicial foreclosure states if that applies to you.
 

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Hi Jim,

I have listed it on TUG Bargain Deals Forum. Not a nibble. Too bad. Westgate Resorts is so desireable given that it has so many locations throughout the US. I am thinking about walking away from my MF. The timeshare is fully paid for. I just wonder if they will pursue me in Canada.
Out of 8 MF defaults as reported by Canadian Tuggers, none got reported to the Canadian credit agencies. If you decide to default, please kindly let me know if you credit got affected. It would help Tuggers moving forward.
 

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They will not accept my unit as part of the surrender program. Believe me, I've tried at least 3 times.

While certainly not offering legal advice, I suggest that you contact Wastegate once again, but with a different approach this time...

Politely but firmly point out that they can either take the deed back voluntarily via Legacy, or they can take it back by foreclosure at their leisure after you (effective immediately), stop paying any further maintenance fees . Making it a clear "pick one" choice may not change their previous position, but it certainly can't hurt to try. After all, if they take the deed back via Legacy, they will extract another $900 (or whatever their current extortion amount is) from you, whereas if they have to initiate foreclosure (even considering the ease of FL non-judicial foreclosure proceedings), they will see not another penny from you. Even Wastegate can likely do that math. :shrug:
 
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They will not accept my unit as part of the surrender program. Believe me, I've tried at least 3 times.
@Christina Thompson We hope you are well. If you made the hard decision to default on your timeshare, would you kindly let us know if your credit got affected? It would help other tuggers in similar situations.
 
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