Renting Abound Points - MVC number for Vistana-only owners

[jabberwocky]

Have any Vistana owners who are not also MVC owners successfully rented points or had points transferred to their account?

I have a potential Abound reservation I'd like to make, but I will be about 600 points short if I elect points from my 2600 elected SVR unit. I have not elected points yet because I want to ensure I can rent enough points. It makes no sense for me to elect my platinum SDO for only 2375 points, so renting seems to be the most plausible way to get the points needed.

The question I have is how do I find out what my MVC number is to transfer the points into? As per vacationpointexchange I need this for the seller to transfer points to me. I've tried setting up a profile on the MVC site, but it needs a Customer ID number to connect ownership - and I don't have one apparently. I did try calling in to the cross-trained agents and they said I don't have an MVC number.

Any suggestions?

 

[CalGalTraveler]

I haven't done this myself but check out this thread / OP for 13 digit number on URL when you enter Abound. Also check sticky for Abound Vistana trained reps.

Good luck!

I am going to give it a try with a verified seller on vacationpointsexchange. I will use the 13-digit number from the website URL, the seller is willing to give them a call and try it.

I note that there is also an 8-digit "contract number" shown on the MVC reservation I made with the Club Points I received for electing Abound on one of my Vistana VOIs. I don't know if that's a useful number, for this purpose, or not.

 

[jabberwocky]

I haven't done this myself but check out this thread / OP for 13 digit number on URL when you enter Abound. Also check sticky for Abound Vistana trained reps.

Good luck!

Thanks! I don’t know how my search missed that thread. Serves me right for not being on TUG for a few weeks.

I’ll have to try calling the cross-trained agent line again. The one I spoke to earlier insisted I didn’t have a MVC number he could provide.

 

[Red elephant]

Thanks! I don’t know how my search missed that thread. Serves me right for not being on TUG for a few weeks.

I’ll have to try calling the cross-trained agent line again. The one I spoke to earlier insisted I didn’t have a MVC number he could provide.

There is a Vistana owner number that is 13 digits and you can get that from owner services. Not sure if that is what you need.

 

[daviator]

Have any Vistana owners who are not also MVC owners successfully rented points or had points transferred to their account?

I have a potential Abound reservation I'd like to make, but I will be about 600 points short if I elect points from my 2600 elected SVR unit. I have not elected points yet because I want to ensure I can rent enough points. It makes no sense for me to elect my platinum SDO for only 2375 points, so renting seems to be the most plausible way to get the points needed.

The question I have is how do I find out what my MVC number is to transfer the points into? As per vacationpointexchange I need this for the seller to transfer points to me. I've tried setting up a profile on the MVC site, but it needs a Customer ID number to connect ownership - and I don't have one apparently. I did try calling in to the cross-trained agents and they said I don't have an MVC number.

Any suggestions?

Yes, I did this successfully. It took two tries, the first time around the MVC person didn’t know how to do it and said it couldn’t be done, but the second time it was successful. The 13 digit number was what they needed.

 

[grgs]

So if you're on the Vistana side, and you click on "Search & Book Reservations" under the "Use Club Points" tab, the first part of the URL you go to is:

"https://owners.marriottvacationclub.com/timeshare/mvco/points/pointReservationLandingPage?intMode=VSE&ownerId=XXXXXXXXXXXXX&screenType=SEARCH_RESORTS"

I assume that's the necessary 13 digit number?

 

[Eric B]

So if you're on the Vistana side, and you click on "Search & Book Reservations" under the "Use Club Points" tab, the first part of the URL you go to is:

"https://owners.marriottvacationclub.com/timeshare/mvco/points/pointReservationLandingPage?intMode=VSE&ownerId=XXXXXXXXXXXXX&screenType=SEARCH_RESORTS"

I assume that's the necessary 13 digit number?

I believe that is correct. The first four digits seem to match up to a resort designation, the next six digits to your first owned contract, then the final three digits seem to be a sequential number for the number of owners that have had the contract. Mine starts out with 1502 because my first owned contract was from SVV Bella, then includes the contract number, then 002 as I bought it resale from the prior owner who bought it retail.

I believe the beginning numbers are 1503 for SVV Key West, 1701 for WSJ VGV, 2301 for Lagunamar, and 4101 for Aventuras because those are the initial digits for the contract numbers listed on a tour profile sheet from my last update. That might help verify that you've got the correct 13 digit number from the URL.

 

[grgs]

I believe that is correct. The first four digits seem to match up to a resort designation, the next six digits to your first owned contract, then the final three digits seem to be a sequential number for the number of owners that have had the contract. Mine starts out with 1502 because my first owned contract was from SVV Bella, then includes the contract number, then 002 as I bought it resale from the prior owner who bought it retail.

I believe the beginning numbers are 1503 for SVV Key West, 1701 for WSJ VGV, 2301 for Lagunamar, and 4101 for Aventuras because those are the initial digits for the contract numbers listed on a tour profile sheet from my last update. That might help verify that you've got the correct 13 digit number from the URL.

My first 4 digits are 2001. Based on what you said, that would be for Kierland.

 

[Eric B]

My first 4 digits are 2001. Based on what you said, that would be for Kierland.

We can probably classify this info as useless trivia, but who knows...? Maybe someone can use it in the future.

 

[daviator]

So if you're on the Vistana side, and you click on "Search & Book Reservations" under the "Use Club Points" tab, the first part of the URL you go to is:

"https://owners.marriottvacationclub.com/timeshare/mvco/points/pointReservationLandingPage?intMode=VSE&ownerId=XXXXXXXXXXXXX&screenType=SEARCH_RESORTS"

I assume that's the necessary 13 digit number?

Yes, that’s exactly correct.

Anyone who has difficulty finding the number that way can call Vistana and they can give it to you, but the owner ID listed in that URL is the correct number.

I'm not sure I understand why the first four digits would reference a particular resort, since this is a CUSTOMER number, not related to an individual ownership (many of us own multiple VOIs at different properties) but maybe it references the first resort where you owned or something. Again, not sure that's very useful since the number is attached to a customer and not (just) to a particular VOI.

 

[daviator]

I believe that is correct. The first four digits seem to match up to a resort designation, the next six digits to your first owned contract, then the final three digits seem to be a sequential number for the number of owners that have had the contract. Mine starts out with 1502 because my first owned contract was from SVV Bella, then includes the contract number, then 002 as I bought it resale from the prior owner who bought it retail.

I believe the beginning numbers are 1503 for SVV Key West, 1701 for WSJ VGV, 2301 for Lagunamar, and 4101 for Aventuras because those are the initial digits for the contract numbers listed on a tour profile sheet from my last update. That might help verify that you've got the correct 13 digit number from the URL.

Though it does seem like useless trivia to me, you do seem to be right, assuming that "1901" is WKORV. The middle six digits are indeed my first Vistana (SVO at the time) contract number.

My last three digits are 000, not 001 though. (I bought from the developer.) So if you're 002, that might mean that there were two owners before you, not just one. It's possible that it could have been taken back by Vistana and sold a second time?

 

[Red elephant]

I believe that is correct. The first four digits seem to match up to a resort designation, the next six digits to your first owned contract, then the final three digits seem to be a sequential number for the number of owners that have had the contract. Mine starts out with 1502 because my first owned contract was from SVV Bella, then includes the contract number, then 002 as I bought it resale from the prior owner who bought it retail.

I believe the beginning numbers are 1503 for SVV Key West, 1701 for WSJ VGV, 2301 for Lagunamar, and 4101 for Aventuras because those are the initial digits for the contract numbers listed on a tour profile sheet from my last update. That might help verify that you've got the correct 13 digit number from the URL.

My first 4 digits are 1502 as well.

 

[echino]

I own many contracts in Vistana, but my first four digits and the next six digits correspond to the contact that I bought resale last (end of 2022), not the first one. What's strange, is that new contract is in it's own separate Vistana account that is not eligible for Abound. Yet, my old Vistana account with contracts eligible for Abound show that contract number in the URL when I click to use Abound points.

 

[Red elephant]

I own many contracts in Vistana, but my first four digits and the next six digits correspond to the contact that I bought resale last (end of 2022), not the first one. What's strange, is that new contract is in it's own separate Vistana account that is not eligible for Abound. Yet, my old Vistana account with contracts eligible for Abound show that contract number in the URL when I click to use Abound points.

Same here.

 

[byeloe]

My last three digits are 000, not 001 though. (I bought from the developer.) So if you're 002, that might mean that there were two owners before you


My last numbers are also 000 but I bought resale so I am not sure we can rely on that info.

 

[vacationtime1]

The 13 digit sequence doesn't follow that pattern for us:

The first four digits on our "Use Club Points" URL address are 2401, but our first Vistana purchase was Kierland*.
The next six digits do not correspond with any of our current contract numbers.
The final three digits are 001, but we bought resale (although if "000" means developer purchase, that may still be correct).

It may be that this associates with one of our since-sold units (including some Marriott units); does anyone else show "2401" as their initial numbers?


* Thank you @grgs, who gave me much useful advice in 2006

 

[YYJMSP]

looks like mine starts with 1901, the next 6 digits correspond to our first purchase (WKORV) contract number, and the last 3 digits are 000 (WKORV was a developer purchase)

 

[rcv82]

Mine starts with 1601, which must be for Sheraton Mountain Vista, and the last 3 are 000 (developer purchase). I also have an MVC customer number that is only 8 digits. The link from my Vistana page with the 13 digits takes me to my 8 digit MVC account that I have from owning some trust points. I haven’t elected Abound points from my Vistana account yet, but everything appears to be linked up.


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[dioxide45]

I believe that is correct. The first four digits seem to match up to a resort designation, the next six digits to your first owned contract, then the final three digits seem to be a sequential number for the number of owners that have had the contract. Mine starts out with 1502 because my first owned contract was from SVV Bella, then includes the contract number, then 002 as I bought it resale from the prior owner who bought it retail.

I believe the beginning numbers are 1503 for SVV Key West, 1701 for WSJ VGV, 2301 for Lagunamar, and 4101 for Aventuras because those are the initial digits for the contract numbers listed on a tour profile sheet from my last update. That might help verify that you've got the correct 13 digit number from the URL.

I have 1501 as the first four. The first contract we bought was an SVV Bella and I notice that the contract number in the 13 is from our first purchased Bella deed that we sold several years ago. Our 13-digit number ends in a 001 though, even though all of our deeds were bought direct. It seems based on post 17, the last three start at 000. Are you sure the owner you bought from purchased direct? All of our resales were from owners that bought direct.

 

[dioxide45]

The next six digits do not correspond with any of our current contract numbers.

Have you sold a contract or even the first contract you bought? I found that the 6 digits didn't match a current contract number but matched an old one we had sold.

 

[daviator]

I have 1501 as the first four. The first contract we bought was an SVV Bella and I notice that the contract number in the 13 is from our first purchased Bella deed that we sold several years ago. Our 13-digit number ends in a 001 though, even though all of our deeds were bought direct. It seems based on post 17, the last three start at 000. Are you sure the owner you bought from purchased direct? All of our resales were from owners that bought direct.

As I pointed out a few posts back, if a particular VOI had been sold, then taken back by the developer for any reason (trade-in, foreclosure, ROFR, etc.) they might then sell it again, but it would no longer be "000" since it was not the first time that particular VOI (unit-week) had been sold. So after a resort had been selling for several years, the developer's inventory could consist of original never-sold ("000") inventory plus a mishmash of previously-sold deeds that had come back into inventory and would have different suffixes.

 

[Eric B]

I have 1501 as the first four. The first contract we bought was an SVV Bella and I notice that the contract number in the 13 is from our first purchased Bella deed that we sold several years ago. Our 13-digit number ends in a 001 though, even though all of our deeds were bought direct. It seems based on post 17, the last three start at 000. Are you sure the owner you bought from purchased direct? All of our resales were from owners that bought direct.

No idea if they bought direct - I just made the assumption.

 

[dsmrp]

I believe that is correct. The first four digits seem to match up to a resort designation, the next six digits to your first owned contract, then the final three digits seem to be a sequential number for the number of owners that have had the contract. Mine starts out with 1502 because my first owned contract was from SVV Bella, then includes the contract number, then 002 as I bought it resale from the prior owner who bought it retail.

I believe the beginning numbers are 1503 for SVV Key West, 1701 for WSJ VGV, 2301 for Lagunamar, and 4101 for Aventuras because those are the initial digits for the contract numbers listed on a tour profile sheet from my last update. That might help verify that you've got the correct 13 digit number from the URL.

My owner ID is different than my husband's , but we share the same pool of Abound pts/star options because both are names are on the deeds. However my husband's ID starts with '0132' for SVR Spas section, and mine starts with '0125' for SVR Lakes section. We bought the Lakes unit from developer to retro in the Spas unit. But my ending number is '001' so the Lakes unit was probably traded in or foreclosed on.

Since my husband is primary in Abound, I have to be careful to make Abound reservations under his name to get Bonvoy elite night credits.
When I'm logged in on VSN, I can make star options reservations with his name as on reservation, and the nights are accrued to his Bonvoy account. However the single Abound reservation I made under my own account, was accrued to me, so I have to call to change it to husband's name.

 

[vacationtime1]

Have you sold a contract or even the first contract you bought? I found that the 6 digits didn't match a current contract number but matched an old one we had sold.

I've bought and sold a bunch, but I still own the first Starwood purchase in my "portfolio" -- the Kierland unit whose contract number doesn't match.

I tossed my files from the various traders we later bought and then sold (SDO, SBP, etc.) so I cannot research your theory.

 

[TAT]

Thanks! I don’t know how my search missed that thread. Serves me right for not being on TUG for a few weeks.

I’ll have to try calling the cross-trained agent line again. The one I spoke to earlier insisted I didn’t have a MVC number he could provide.

Coming back to an old thread, but I wanted to confirm that the 13 digit number (from the URL) was the right one? I’m getting ready to venture down the same path and want to know I’m giving the seller the right number.