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Renting a Marriott Week

capjak

capjak

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How to protect yourself for renting:

I am renting a week the person renting wants 100% via paypal and than will send guest certificate. Rental is in august of this year

I requested to verify reservation with the resort.

What else should I do?

I am not going to request escrow (per FAQ renting).
 
If it's a guest certificate from II you risk showing up and having the reservation cancelled. It's against the terms and conditions of II to rent an exchanged week.

II tracks down people who rent their exchanged weeks and will cancel the exchange. If you are caught they will freeze your account and you lose the week. In my opinion it's not worth the risk.

However if this is a week being rented by a Marriott owner then they can add your name to the reservation with Marriott and email you a copy of the confirmation.
 
Thanks, I was a little concerned because the price is very low and they stated that they will order a guest certificate in my name and it will cost $39 extra?

Does this mean it is an II exchange or getaway?
 
II charges $39 for a guest certificate.

There have been reports on TUG of individuals who have arrived at a resort and discovered the week they were renting had been cancelled by II. There was also recently a TUG member who had her account frozen because II suspected she was offering weeks for rent. I don't recall for sure, but I think she had something offered on e-bay, but it was a week she owned. Took about 3 days to straighten everything out and restore her account.
 
ok sounds like I should not rent this week from the owner as I do not want to take the risk of showing up and not having a reservation.

I emailed the owner asking if this is an II exchange and/or getaway.

Thanks

LAX saved me potential grief that is not worth the $$$
 
There is no indication from the OP that the person they are renting from is not a owner at the resort that is being rented so I am not sure why there are all these warnings about not renting a exchanged weeks are coming from. You can order a guest certificate for a resort that you own at.
THe OP needs to make sure that the owner owns the week they are renting at that resort and that they are not renting a week they got with a AC or a week they exchanged to another resort for. Once they have confirmed that I see no problem with the owner requesting a guest certificate in the OP's name
 
KathyPet said:
There is no indication from the OP that the person they are renting from is not a owner at the resort that is being rented so I am not sure why there are all these warnings about not renting a exchanged weeks are coming from. You can order a guest certificate for a resort that you own at.
THe OP needs to make sure that the owner owns the week they are renting at that resort and that they are not renting a week they got with a AC or a week they exchanged to another resort for. Once they have confirmed that I see no problem with the owner requesting a guest certificate in the OP's name
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capjak said:
Thanks, I was a little concerned because the price is very low and they stated that they will order a guest certificate in my name and it will cost $39 extra?
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Kathypet,

Why would the OP say that there is a $39 fee for a guest cert. if this wasn't a case of renting an II exchange?


But I agree, contact the owner and confirm that they are renting a week they own. Or are they trying to rent an II exchange week?
 
Kathy -

If you make a reservation through Marriott Owner Services for your week and then rent it out or let a friend use it, you wouldn't have a Guest Certificate. You would merely call Owner Services to give them the name of the person who will be checking in and ask for that name to be added to the reservation.

II issues Guest Certificates (for $39) and would never be involved with such a transaction. Marriott doesn't issue Guest Certificates.

However, if the week comes from II (exchange, Getaway, AC exchange, etc.), an II Guest Certificate is required. The resort is not supposed to let someone other than the person whose name is on the reservation check in without one.

Thus, since this week came through II, the warnings seem appropriate.
 
capjak said:
How to protect yourself for renting:I am renting a week the person renting wants 100% via paypal and than will send guest certificate. Rental is in august of this year

I requested to verify reservation with the resort.

What else should I do?

I am not going to request escrow (per FAQ renting).
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Kathy-
I'm not trying to be the II enforcement police. However, the OP asked how to protect himself when renting a Marriott exchange and then referred to the guest certificate. I just wanted to make sure he understood the risk if this was an II exchange.
 
Owner just informed that it is indeed an exchange that they got into Marriott so I guess I will pass.
 
Guys I understand you shouldn't rent an exchange but if I am GIFTING my brother and new sister in law an exchanged week on II that is OK right? I am assuming that is the purpose of a guest certificate.
 
Why can't capjak just pose as a friend of the person renting out the week? Even if it is an II getaway, as long as the person who originally purchased it is not trying to make money on it (and it doesn't sound like they are), why is it such a bad thing to simply let someone else enjoy the week for what the original person paid for it? They stated they will get a guest certificate which is the right thing to do.

I just purchased several getaways recently for a family get together. I asked the person on the phone at II who was helping me if I could purchase a guest certificate for a friend or family member if something happened and we could not use one of the weeks. They said that was perfectly acceptable which is the answer I expected.

I don't want Capjak or the renter to get in trouble, but I don't see what the big deal is about this proposal. It doesn't sound as if anyone is trying to make money.

Janna
 
gores95 said:
Guys I understand you shouldn't rent an exchange but if I am GIFTING my brother and new sister in law an exchanged week on II that is OK right? I am assuming that is the purpose of a guest certificate.
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That is EXACTLY what they are for.
 
applegirl said:
Why can't capjak just pose as a friend of the person renting out the week? Even if it is an II getaway, as long as the person who originally purchased it is not trying to make money on it (and it doesn't sound like they are), why is it such a bad thing to simply let someone else enjoy the week for what the original person paid for it? They stated they will get a guest certificate which is the right thing to do.

I just purchased several getaways recently for a family get together. I asked the person on the phone at II who was helping me if I could purchase a guest certificate for a friend or family member if something happened and we could not use one of the weeks. They said that was perfectly acceptable which is the answer I expected.

I don't want Capjak or the renter to get in trouble, but I don't see what the big deal is about this proposal. It doesn't sound as if anyone is trying to make money.

Janna
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Tell that to II once they suspend your account. It just isn't worth the trouble to square it away to me. You can buy guest certificates for you family or friend but you can't charge them a dime for it. No money is to exchange hands on a week you do not own. We gave away a trade earlier this summer and didn't even charge the folks for the guest certificate. My understanding is that we couldn't. You are only suposed to rent a week that you own.
 
Because when I gave week at Barony (where we own)to a young family that are friends of ours a few years ago I was told that we needed to give them a guest certificate to get the reservation in their names and that is what I did. Adding their names to ours on the reservation was never mentioned as a option when I called to ask. So a guest certificate can be used for a resort that you own at to put the reservation completely in another party's name
 
Who Issued the certificate?

I did not know Marriott issued guest Certs. If it is from II it is part of an exchange; isn't it?
 
There is a difference in 'gifting' your Marriott booked (owned) week and an Interval 'exchange' week. II only makes money on the fees they charge, so you get the feeling there's a fee for everything...but that's how they stay in business. Marriott seems to have dozens of fees too, but they don't have a fee for a guest certificate if you were giving or renting your week to someone else. In fact, Marriott will send your 'guest' a confirmation via email. I've never had a problem with II guest certificates but there is a fee and you have to follow the rules...and it's the same for AC's too.

Brian
 
Capjak

There seem to be many weeks listed for rental (from owners). I would offer a price and see if it is taken. We just rented for a second week from an owner. We are owners as well. Gave 50% down. They changed the reservation to our name and forwarded a copy 6 weeks ago and I just sent the balance.

I suspect some use TS properties to generate money as the rates seem high on the rental pages. The people we rented from offered a very good and fair price. I would always make an offer.

Good luck with it. I was somewhat reluctant on this smooth rental but it seems to have worked out for us.

Sue
 
Thanks Sue

I currently have a reservation at Sheraton Vistana Villiages 2 bedroom at owners rate appx $200/nite including fees/taxes.
 
I abide by the terms and conditions of II and Marriott concerning exchanges. I have only been a TS owner for about 5 years. I have rented, gifted, added names to a primary reservation and exchanged through Interval with and without adding a guest certificate. Not once in all my exchanges, upon check-in, has anyone asked me or my guest (s) how they were able to get an exchange into the resort I/my guest were checking into. Let me be clear about this I do not rent II exchanges because I believe it is explicit in the terms and conditions that it is not allowed. But if the resort is not asking upon checking in and the quest is not volunteering the information and the computer system is not being flagged (by II or Mariott) how is the rule of not renting an II exchange enforced?

bob
 
II Exchange

I rented what I believe in hindsight was a getaway (or AC) fromII that was sold at a profit. I didn't know better. However, I was really nervous about it after I did a little studying of the rules here on TUG (after I paid for the unit).

I did get a guest certificate and Marriott welcomed me with a nice room. No problem.

I wonder why no one seems to be using an escrow for these transactions? Is the cost too high?
 
From my experience I don't think Marriott cares how you obtained your exchange. It seems unlikely that Marriott employees would report a renter to II.

However, it has been reported on here that II does attempt to track down those renting exchanges and getaways. II will suspend an account and cancel an exchange when they find someone renting for a profit.

Those who advertise on the internet are the ones likely to run into trouble with II.
 
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