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Company in Bentonville, Arkansas contacted me. Any one familiar with them? Any one had specific dealings with them?
 

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Scam. The #1 reason is that it is a scam is that they contacted you.

They will ask you for money at some point -- a "title search", a "refundable escrow fee", or whatever.

When they have your money, they will disappear.
 

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Here's the red flag. THEY CALLED YOU! Nobody is going to call you to give you money. They can't do anything you can't do yourself. For FREE. 99.9% of these upfront fee outfits are scams. We haven't looked into the rest of them. They take your money, then what incentive do they have to do any more toward finding a new owner? There are NO MAGIC WORDS to 'get out' of a timeshare. You own it until YOU find a new owner or are able to return the deed to the resort. Many TUGgers have contacted the HOA and been shown how to deed it back. This is often the surest and cheapest way out.

Good Luck!

Jim
 

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These companies are all scammers - there is no "easy out" with a timeshare, because you have a contract and a deed.

Here is a better option: How to give your timeshare away on TUG.
Company in Bentonville, Arkansas contacted me. Any one familiar with them? Any one had specific dealings with them?
Try to your timeshare away. Read DeniseM link she provided. I have found new homes for many of my timeshares I could not use gifting them to other tuggers or lookers in the tug marketplace. There are many other places to offer it too. Instead of paying a scammer offer some incentives, pay all closing costs, pay a year of maintenance fees, even two if you need to.
 

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More info on Real Travel,LLC

  • LLC created a short time ago - June 2018
  • Website very vague, difficult to tell what they do although my guess is a worthless vacation club
  • Officers are Bart Bowe and Brian Scroggs
    • Both are related to The Transfer Group started in 2014 with an F rating with the BBB.
    • Brian Scroggs is related to Vacation Consulting Services, which appears to an upfront liquidation company that started in 2014. They have an F rating with the BBB along with an alert that this business has a pattern of complaints. The website is “under maintenance” and not active.
Bottom line, any money paid to them is at risk of being lost forever.

Here is one TUG thread about The Transfer Group - https://tugbbs.com/forums/index.php?threads/ebay-seller-thetransfergroup.252716/

Ripoff report on Scroggs - https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/vacation-consulting-services-llc/springfield-missouri-65807/vacation-consulting-services-llc-brian-j-scroggs-penny-bruner-scroggs-con-artists-raci-1354665
 
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and in just a shade under 2 years....some owners might actually get money back!


this is why it is SO IMPORTANT to file your complaint with your atty generals office. the only folks who will get a share of this judgement are those who did!
 

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and in just a shade under 2 years....some owners might actually get money back!


this is why it is SO IMPORTANT to file your complaint with your atty generals office. the only folks who will get a share of this judgement are those who did!

It would be absolutely FANTASTIC if the victims got some money back but usually the money is long gone. At least they are out of business, and hopefully are sharp enough to get some real jobs and not start it up all over again.....



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I know that these owners have been scamming with related businesses in the Missouri area. FYI @STLBBB if you weren't aware of the Arkansas AG $500,000 judgement against Bowe and Scroggs.
 

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I know that these owners have been scamming with related businesses in the Missouri area. FYI @STLBBB if you weren't aware of the Arkansas AG $500,000 judgement against Bowe and Scroggs.
Thank you! This popped up in my Twitter feed yesterday. Arkansas did a great job with this case. Some numbers that may not have made the news coverage. The state received 83 complaints about Real Travel LLC with reported losses of just shy of $991K. That's nearly $12K per complaint. 66 of the complainants were over 60, so nearly 80 percent were legally seniors (the age of what is a senior differs by state).

Bowe will have to pay $50K back over 10 years with the other $450K hanging over him if he does not comply or opens up another timeshare or timeshare exit business.

Scroggs is still facing judgment in Arkansas and there is a case in Missouri against him and his companies, including Vacation Consulting Services and The Transfer Group.

Our office has supplied info to both Arkansas and Missouri.

I echo what Brian wrote earlier. Report any bad actors to your state AG and the local BBB. If you have been victimized and don't know where to turn, reach out to me here and I will be happy to help.
 

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Company in Bentonville, Arkansas contacted me. Any one familiar with them? Any one had specific dealings with them?
I echo what everyone else has said. These things are a SCAM. Sell it yourself on TUG like I did. Entire process took less than 10 weeks
 

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Here's the red flag. THEY CALLED YOU! Nobody is going to call you to give you money. They can't do anything you can't do yourself. For FREE. 99.9% of these upfront fee outfits are scams. We haven't looked into the rest of them. They take your money, then what incentive do they have to do any more toward finding a new owner? There are NO MAGIC WORDS to 'get out' of a timeshare. You own it until YOU find a new owner or are able to return the deed to the resort. Many TUGgers have contacted the HOA and been shown how to deed it back. This is often the surest and cheapest way out.

Good Luck!

Jim
What is the HOA please???
 

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"Under the consent judgment in this case, Bowe will no longer be able to conduct any business related to timeshares or timeshare exit businesses in Arkansas. "

So, I wonder in which state he will resurface and start up a new similar business.
 

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Missouri seems popular for them! =(
 

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oh look, a 2+ million dollar judgement against this scammer...doubt any owners will see any of that money returned, but at least its a happy ending!

we certainly hope this goes from a civil matter to a criminal one and they see some jail time.


A Benton County judge ordered Real Travel LLC co-owner Brian Scroggs to pay more nearly $2.7 million in restitution and fines as part of a default judgment.
 
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