I recently deposited a Resort on Cocoa Beach week with RCI for a deposit value of 36. When I check Rci I can see my week available for trade at a value of 29?Has anyone else seen this with your deposits?
Maybe I was not clear in my previous post. RCI actually gave me 36 points as the website deposit calculator said. Now when I look on RCIs website I can trade back into my deposit for 29 pts. I am not complaining. I was just curious why.
We're all talking about different things. The original post was NOT about adjustments to TPU after deposit. It was about the difference between TPU's given for the deposit vs what it takes to book right back into the same week.
In my case, they'll give me 27 TPU's to deposit and I could then book the same week through RCI for 7 TPU. Why such a discrepency is the question.
We're still talking about different things. If I deposit my week 26 today, I get 27 TPU. I can also go online today and book the exact same week 26 for only 7 points. So we're talking about a huge difference in TPU deposit value vs booking cost at the exact same point in time.
Sounds good to me If this is happening across the board, it means that we can get more in exchange than the value of our deposited week, in other words, we can trade up. Imagine the uproar if it were the other way around :ignore:We're still talking about different things. If I deposit my week 26 today, I get 27 TPU. I can also go online today and book the exact same week 26 for only 7 points. So we're talking about a huge difference in TPU deposit value vs booking cost at the exact same point in time.
I've pondered this before and wondered what situations lead to this TPU value differential.I have a forthcoming new purchase at Vacation Village Prkwy in Orlando that if I deposit now, it's worth 27 TPU's but I can book the same week on RCI for 7 TPU's.
Remember, though, that RCI makes money only on booked exchanges. We always think of supply and demand as a single calculation, but for RCI it may really be two separate equations. For my orlando week over the 4th of July, RCI can probably book all they can get there hands on but the booking market will only bear 7 TPU's because of all the other competition out there. On the other hand, they have to entice enough owners to deposit their weeks to keep the supply available, hence the higher deposit value. I'm curious what other situations exist like this. Maybe it's almost always like this with the only thing in question being the size of the differential.
Yes, I have seen it. It cuts both ways---the deposit could be worth more than the exchange, or it could be worth less. I suspect two things at play. First, there seems to be some averaging going on for deposits; they are much more "static" in value than exchanges. This is probably just to keep people from going nuts watching deposit values change nearly daily. Second, I suspect that RCI could be giving more credits out on average than they charge (to account for spoilage and to increase exchange traffic). I suppose it is also likely that RCI gives out *fewer* credits on average than they charge, but it seems to fail Occam's Razor. The main motivation for that would be to support rentals, and it's not like they've ever needed such an excuse before---they rent whatever they please, just because.
Edited to add: for my intervals, for the most part, the deposit is worth more than the exchange, on average. But, that's such a small sample that it is hard to draw any firm conclusions.
Yep! I deposited a week over a year ago and when the TPU's came out it was a 14. Unfortunately, I didn;t get a print out of the page - would it make a differnence? - and then later it dropped to a 12. I am VERY unhappy!
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Yes, it would have made a difference. I had a similar situation, and when I was able to forward evidence of the higher valuation, my deposit was adjusted back up.Unfortunately, I didn;t get a print out of the page - would it make a differnence? - and then later it dropped to a 12.
Maybe I was not clear in my previous post. RCI actually gave me 36 points as the website deposit calculator said. Now when I look on RCIs website I can trade back into my deposit for 29 pts. I am not complaining. I was just curious why.
In my case, they'll give me 27 TPU's to deposit and I could then book the same week through RCI for 7 TPU. Why such a discrepency is the question.
Vacation Village at Parkway, given the corruption of its RCI Points values, the reputation of its developer as being extremely tight with RCI, and Bootleg's description of it as the resort with constantly the biggest oversupply in the entire RCI system, was a key resort that prior to the rollout of Points Lite I posted that I would be watching closely as a key to the honesty of RCI's numbers racket. Well it did not disappoint. It clearly points to the corruption of the entire system. Tuggers have been finding lots of examples of VV@P having significantly higher numbers in than out, but I have yet to see the post showing it the other way and do not expect to. The numbers offered for trade are the true values at this resort, and those offered for deposits are overpointing to pander to the developer.
While you're probably correct Carolinian, availability only speaks to supply, not demand. If I go to the grocery story and find 6 feet of shelf space top to bottom with Coca Cola, and only a 12 inch space on one shelf for RC cola, does that mean there's an oversupply with no demand for coke vs the opposite for RC Cola? I don't think so. If you think of RCI like the grocery store, sales volume and turnover is everything.
Great analogy.:whoopie:
I might go to Orlando in the next few years. I will go to New York and the Caribbean in the next few years. I will hopefully return to Hawaii in the next few years. I will not be going to England, France, or South Africa in the next decade. If there is one week available in England, France, South Africa, or anywhere in Europe for the entire 2011 to 2020 time frame, that is oversupply to me.
Just to prove a point save some of those rare single weeks currently available in South Africa and England and check on them from time to time. Most of the weeks available today in England and South Africa will still be available for exchange next month, and the next. When there is only one available week at a resort, and it is not exchanged for for weeks or months, that is a sign of low supply, but even lower demand.
For comparison check on Florida beach weeks and Orlando weeks at resorts where there is only one or two weeks available and see how long it lasts before someone grabs it. Many are gone in a day or two. Some are gone as soon as they show up. Now that is low supply and high demand.
While you're probably correct Carolinian, availability only speaks to supply, not demand. If I go to the grocery story and find 6 feet of shelf space top to bottom with Coca Cola, and only a 12 inch space on one shelf for RC cola, does that mean there's an oversupply with no demand for coke vs the opposite for RC Cola? I don't think so. If you think of RCI like the grocery store, sales volume and turnover is everything.