Question Regarding Wyndham Preferred

[cctinnell]

I bought my points on the secondary market in 2008. At that time it was easy for me to make reservations for vacations. A couple of years ago they switched it to where you had to have the preferred access or something like that. Basically right now I can only book out 9 months which is not good. I went to the Wyndham update while in Destin in which they advised me that I do no have the preferred access in which I cannot book out 13 months. They also advised that they hold back 60% of inventory for the preferred members (I think it is built in when you buy directly).

My question is can I buy some points on the secondary market to where I am preferred so that I can book out 13 months and have better odds of getting the vacations I want??

 

[vacationhopeful]

First off, HAVE you READ the Wyndham's Member Directory .... that pretty picture book of all the resorts?

2nd is What type of points? As you have owned them since 1985 ... I would suspect either CWP or a converted fixed.

3rd is What resort are YOUR points deeded at? And DO you WANT to make early reservations there at the 13 month out mark?

4th is YOUR regular booking window is 10 months from check in day. So today is Aug 17th .. so you can MAKE a reservation NOW for Jun 17 2016.

Remember MOST resorts limit FULL week reservations (without moving) to checkin days of either FRI or SAT with a few resorts ALSO have Sunday checkin units.

5th is "If the Salesman/Owner's Update lips are moving, they are lying." They are commissioned Real Estate agents who do NOT GET PAID if they sell nothing ...

 

[comicbookman]

First off, HAVE you READ the Wyndham's Member Directory .... that pretty picture book of all the resorts?

2nd is What type of points? As you have owned them since 1985 ... I would suspect either CWP or a converted fixed.

3rd is What resort are YOUR points deeded at? And DO you WANT to make early reservations there at the 13 month out mark?

4th is YOUR regular booking window is 10 months from check in day. So today is Aug 17th .. so you can MAKE a reservation NOW for Jun 17 2016.

Remember MOST resorts limit FULL week reservations (without moving) to checkin days of either FRI or SAT with a few resorts ALSO have Sunday checkin units.

5th is "If the Salesman/Owner's Update lips are moving, they are lying." They are commissioned Real Estate agents who do NOT GET PAID if they sell nothing ...

2008 not 1985.

 

[vacationhopeful]

2008 not 1985.

I am on PAIN meds .... being on TUG and messing up is FAR, FAR better than driving down the highways & byways at 85 MPH.

And I corrected my prior post.

 

[Ty1on]

I bought my points on the secondary market in 2008. At that time it was easy for me to make reservations for vacations. A couple of years ago they switched it to where you had to have the preferred access or something like that. Basically right now I can only book out 9 months which is not good. I went to the Wyndham update while in Destin in which they advised me that I do no have the preferred access in which I cannot book out 13 months. They also advised that they hold back 60% of inventory for the preferred members (I think it is built in when you buy directly).

My question is can I buy some points on the secondary market to where I am preferred so that I can book out 13 months and have better odds of getting the vacations I want??

It is not true under any circumstances that they hold back inventory for members who bought retail. Advanced Reservation Priority works precisely the same whether you bought retail or resale. If your ownership is connected to a property, you have 13 month ARP at that property no matter how you purchased the contract, and 10 months at other properties no matter how you purchased the contract.

If your membership is Club Wyndham Access, which I suspect it is not, you would have 13 month ARP for all intervals CWA owns in any resort.

"Of course it isn't working for you, because you didn't pay me tens of thousands to buy it. Worry not, I can fix this, it'll just cost you tens of thousands"

 

[uscav8r]

As in many things sales, there is a kernel of truth obfuscated by complex terms and nuance.

There are 2 types of ownership that has certain inventory held back: Presidential Reserve (defintely) and Margaritaville (ostensibly). This preference is for specific inventory, not for just any resort.

Theoretically one might be able to find PR on the secondary market, but there is another thread discussing whether or not this has ever been seen. I don't know about Margaritaville. It is advertised to only be open to VIP owners (ie retail purchasers) in differing windows according to status, but some non-VIP owners have reported being able to make bookings.


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[comicbookman]

I am on PAIN meds .... being on TUG and messing up is FAR, FAR better than driving down the highways & byways at 85 MPH.

And I corrected my prior post.

Then, enjoy the pain meds (also better than the pain I expect) and feel better

 

[Ty1on]

As in many things sales, there is a kernel of truth obfuscated by complex terms and nuance.

There are 2 types of ownership that has certain inventory held back: Presidential Reserve (defintely) and Margaritaville (ostensibly). This preference is for specific inventory, not for just any resort.

Theoretically one might be able to find PR on the secondary market, but there is another thread discussing whether or not this has ever been seen. I don't know about Margaritaville. It is advertised to only be open to VIP owners (ie retail purchasers) in differing windows according to status, but some non-VIP owners have reported being able to make bookings.


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Someone reported that the non-VIP glitch has been fixed.

It is important to emphasize that MV inventory being held back is not just for retail owners, but for retail owners who have purchased enough point to qualify for VIP level (or PIC yada yada yada). I know this is what you said, I just want to emphasize that it isn't a benefit available to just anyone who pays the tens of thousands.

Also, the only reason MV applies only to retail points is that the club is too immature to see resales on the market yet.

 

[raygo123]

Your getting defensive yea he was harsh. But u know now you have an extra month to book u see I know!

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[tschwa2]

Where are you trying to book that you are unable to do so at 9 months? If you buy resale for points deeded at that location or CWA depending on the property then you will be able to book at 13 months.


There are several locations that you need ARP to book the most prime times. That goes for resale owners and those who bought direct. There are many other locations that have availability most of the year if not all of the year at 9 months or less.

 

[raygo123]

Haven't? I think they have!

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[ronparise]

There is no such thing as "preferred access" and no 9 month booking window with Wyndham points

I wonder what we are talking about....

 

[jebloomquist]

I think that raygo123 has taken far too many of vacationhopeful’s meds.

 

[Ty1on]

I think that raygo123 has taken far too many of vacationhopeful’s meds.

I was thinking he's Kurt Vonnegut incognito.

 

[raygo123]

Ha ha. Yea had my back operated on the fourth. Oxy

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[vacationhopeful]

Ha ha. Yea had my back operated on the fourth. Oxy

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Your pain meds are better than my pain meds .... oh, the little things we appreciate MORE and MORE as we age.

Next dose followed by NAP time.

 

[uscav8r]

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It is important to emphasize that MV inventory being held back ...for retail owners who have purchased enough point to qualify for VIP level (or PIC yada yada yada). I know this is what you said, I just want to emphasize that it isn't a benefit available to just anyone who pays the tens of thousands.
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Absolutely! Although isn't (eventual) VIP qualification the carrot that is always dangled in front of the rube potential buyer for most developer purchases? This is essentially the "benefit" upon which the sales folks base most of their exaggerations. Nevermind that one could spend 10s of 1000s and STILL not attain permanent VIP (which would normally cost in the 100s of 1000s!!!)...

In summary of the thread, aside from the niche cases of PR and MV, it all comes down to CWA and/or CWS for 13-month ARP for most owners... and these are generally available on the resale market.

 

[cctinnell]

First off, HAVE you READ the Wyndham's Member Directory .... that pretty picture book of all the resorts?

2nd is What type of points? As you have owned them since 1985 ... I would suspect either CWP or a converted fixed.

3rd is What resort are YOUR points deeded at? And DO you WANT to make early reservations there at the 13 month out mark?

4th is YOUR regular booking window is 10 months from check in day. So today is Aug 17th .. so you can MAKE a reservation NOW for Jun 17 2016.

Remember MOST resorts limit FULL week reservations (without moving) to checkin days of either FRI or SAT with a few resorts ALSO have Sunday checkin units.

5th is "If the Salesman/Owner's Update lips are moving, they are lying." They are commissioned Real Estate agents who do NOT GET PAID if they sell nothing ...

I bought points out of Las Vegas due to the maintenance fees are cheaper. They are access points in which the points renew every year. The problem I'm having is every time I go to book a reservation at a resort there is no availability. I really don't want to buy retail after getting such a good deal on the secondary market.

Also I don't really travel to my home resort of Las Vegas, but rather to Florida and to Hawaii. Any suggestions on how to get reservations is appreciated.

 

[Ty1on]

I bought points out of Las Vegas due to the maintenance fees are cheaper. They are access points in which the points renew every year. The problem I'm having is every time I go to book a reservation at a resort there is no availability. I really don't want to buy retail after getting such a good deal on the secondary market.

Also I don't really travel to my home resort of Las Vegas, but rather to Florida and to Hawaii. Any suggestions on how to get reservations is appreciated.

You have a UDI contract at Grand Desert. Exactly 10 months before the check-in date you want, go online and make your reservation. It would help if you have resorts picked out beforehand for Plan B and Plan C

 

[Ty1on]

Accidental double post

 

[tschwa2]

Where in Florida and Hawaii and when are you looking to travel to those locations?

The reason for the when and where are there are locations and times where you need the 13 month ARP. No advice rather than cross your fingers and hope for good luck for those ones. You may be looking for a unit type/size that the resort only has 1 or 2 of and the advice would be to book 2 smaller units.

For others there really might be something you are doing wrong- like waiting until 8-9 months prior to book rather than booking as soon as the window open up.

 

[bnoble]

At that time it was easy for me to make reservations for vacations. A couple of years ago they switched it to where you had to have the preferred access or something like that. Basically right now I can only book out 9 months which is not good.

The difference between 2008 and now is that we are not smack in the middle of a recession, and fewer people are just letting their points expire unused and instead are getting out and going on vacation. Nothing has changed since 2008 to now in how your points could be used to make reservations. What has changed is that more people are planning vacations, and more of them are planning ahead. For the most part, if you get online exactly at 10 months prior to check-in, you should be able to reserve what you are looking for, with just a handful of exceptions.

 

[cctinnell]

That makes sense. We have gone to Kuwaii and also go to majestic sun, emerald grand, and also the beach street cottages in destin

 

[cctinnell]

It appears as though my best bet is to buy some points from a resort in Destin due to the fact we go there every year, just rather go before the middle of August.

 

[cctinnell]

Another question I have is that I currently own 385,000 points. Is it really worth it to obtain more points to reach Silver level? Also if I do purchase some points in Florida will that allow me to ARP in Florida? I appreciate all of the information.