Purchased HGV Max Today: Sales System Shows Centum+ from 114k Resale Points

[chosshaul]

GT75 answered it but wanted to add that it is a HGVC property, not HVC, https://www.craigendarroch.com/sales/

Many of us buy there for inexpensive points, elite qualifying so many are Legacy Elite because of purchases there, and can exchange in DEX EU and II....plus very inexpensive and quick closing

Destination exchange is just for 7 nights in the points based exchange starting from 2000 pts a week at tier 1 going all the way up to 12,000 pts for the highest tier 6. They have something called short xchanges for 2-6 day exchanges but it says it can only be used within 30 days of booking so it isn’t terribly useful

All of these will have exchange fees as well

 

[HuskerATL]

Destination exchange is just for 7 nights in the points based exchange starting from 2000 pts a week at tier 1 going all the way up to 12,000 pts for the highest tier 6. They have something called short xchanges for 2-6 day exchanges but it says it can only be used within 30 days of booking so it isn’t terribly useful

All of these will have exchange fees as well

I didn't realize their 2 to 6 day exchanges were only within 30 days and I didn't realize that it was only 2 to 6 days, I thought that they could book longer than a week....but I guess not. Since we aren't in the Trust, I have only read comments from folks and glanced through the guides.

 

[chosshaul]

I didn't realize their 2 to 6 day exchanges were only within 30 days and I didn't realize that it was only 2 to 6 days, I thought that they could book longer than a week....but I guess not. Since we aren't in the Trust, I have only read comments from folks and glanced through the guides.

I just compare it to RCI n that regard, but their short stay stay option is worse than RCIs.

If people want to use DEX it only makes sense when there is limited availability n MAX or they want to book father out their MAX booking window

 

[HuskerATL]

I just compare it to RCI n that regard, but their short stay stay option is worse than RCIs.

If people want to use DEX it only makes sense when there is limited availability n MAX or they want to book father out their MAX booking window

Well, you will rarely find Embarc in Max...so you need DEX for that. There is plenty in there and we can book 11 months out. For DRI, the good units are gone by the Max booking window so the 2 year booking option really helps with that. I have booked about 18 months out for our favorite CA room...

 

[chosshaul]

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Well, you will rarely find Embarc in Max...so you need DEX for that. There is plenty in there and we can book 11 months out. For DRI, the good units are gone by the Max booking window so the 2 year booking option really helps with that. I have booked about 18 months out for our favorite CA room...

No doubt DEX is great for premium availability. Stuff is just in there too and way easier as opposed to exchanges like RCI and Interval.

 

[mountainboy]

It will apply to all HGVC and bHC reservations

An EOY District 1BR (not 1BR Plus) would likely be the least expensive initial and long term deed to accomplish this with

Craigendarroch Lodges. If you purchase from the onsite HGVC resale agent, it will count towards elite status.

GT75 answered it but wanted to add that it is a HGVC property, not HVC, https://www.craigendarroch.com/sales/

Many of us buy there for inexpensive points, elite qualifying so many are Legacy Elite because of purchases there, and can exchange in DEX EU and II....plus very inexpensive and quick closing

Folks have kindly answered all these Qs for you...
Best!

 

[ljmiii]

You would have a separate bucket of bHC points in your account that work the same way as your other points, but do give you an earlier window in DC (and maybe a NY resort or two - can’t remember if that’s the case).

Owning at the District gives you access to the 104 day bHC reservation window at the Quin, Central, and Residences (but not W57th). Not as good as owning in NYC...but ahead of everyone else who have to wait until 90 days at those properties.

 

[TUGHarry]

Folks have kindly answered all these Qs for you...
Best!

Thank you so much to everyone for helping me out and for sharing your experience. This has been so helpful, and it's clear there is a tremendous amount of knowledge in this group. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to steer me in the right direction before I got too deep into something I didn't fully understand.

Based on the feedback here, I will be rescinding my purchase and spending more time researching the alternative paths that were suggested.

I'm particularly interested in learning more about the Craigendarroch Lodges strategy for obtaining Legacy Elite / Elite Premier status.

For those who have gone down that path, which week, season, unit type, or ownership should I be looking for? Is there a specific Craigendarroch ownership that is generally considered the best value for obtaining elite-qualifying status while keeping acquisition and maintenance costs as low as possible?

If I purchase the CL and successfully obtain Legacy EP status, is there still any reason to purchase a bHC deed afterward?

In other words, what additional benefits does a bHC ownership provide that Legacy EP does not?

For those who have both, which would you choose?

Thanks again to everyone. This has been incredibly educational and I genuinely appreciate all the guidance.

 

[HuskerATL]

When you buy from the official resale office at CL, the points are elite qualifying. The best MF/pt are the 3 bed plat weeks but they are also the most expensive....but also the most points. The best elite level is elite premier which is, at least, 54,400 elite qualifying points. You can look in the HGVC portal and the elite page to see all the benefits but a quick summary is free booking, saving, converting to HH, depositing to RCI, and unlimited free guest certs, $250 lyft credit, access to other properties, upgrades when available with your HGVC reservations, 30% discount on OS, plus more....and you get access to DEX EU and II.

There are a number of us who have bought at CL for these benefits. There is no reason for AI with a bHC deed if you get EP. AI is just for free reservations so if you get EP, then you get that plus much more.

There are a number of TUG post, in this forum, about both CL and DEX EU.

https://www.craigendarroch.com/sales/ . You can email Kyrstie, her email address is on the sale page, and ask for the latest sales list.

The other thing to think about, when buying CL besides low MF/pt ownership, is using it in DEX EU. For it, then you need to understand how the tiers work and which units are which tiers to use them the most effectively. Even though a 3 bed plat week is the best MF/pt at CL, it isn't the best trader in DEX EU...because the system only goes to Tier 6. Both 2 bed plats and 3 bed plats are Tier 6 so you are paying too much when you exchange a 3 bed plat in the system, especially if you exchange for something less than a Tier 6...for example reserving a Tier 4 unit in Europe...that is why many of us have a mixture of 1 bed plats and 2 bed plats...for exchanges at different tiers. But, if your goal is EP and points in HGVC, primarily, then the 3 bed plat may be the best.

Also, look at the CL table in the DEX EU guide, attached, you want a Peak season week and then look at II...ideally, the week is also a high demand week for CL.

Look at this beautiful resort I found on IntervalWorld.com.

Hilton Grand Vacations Club at Craigendarroch Lodges, Ballater, Aberdeenshire AB35 5XA, U.K.

www.intervalworld.com

 

[TUGHarry]

Thank you, this is extremely helpful.

Just to make sure I understand correctly, to obtain Elite Premier, I would actually need to acquire approximately 54,400 elite-qualifying CL points through purchases from the official Craigendarroch resale office.

Is that correct?

Or i can just buy one deed of any points eg 2 br platinum and become EP as my existing HGVC resale points would combine with elite-qualifying Craigendarroch ownerships for tier qualification purposes?

If the answer is that I need 54,400 elite-qualifying points, whatever around $30,000 to get to EP tier

 

[HuskerATL]

elite qualifying points from anywhere...just that now, there is only a few places where you can get them. Before Max, any retail purchase plus these places could earn them but after Max started, all retail purchases put you in Max, not elite...so, now the only place to get elite qualifying points are the few official resale offices at CL, Valdoro, maybe SW FL, not sure of others.

If you have any prior to Max retail purchases, those would be elite points and any CL points would add to them.

If both your Elara and Enclave are resale, then they would not be elite qualifying. Those two places would have only be elite if you bought them retail before Max came around.

It sounds like you would not have any elite qualifying points so you would have to buy 54,400 for elite premier. If you just want free reservations though, then a resale bHC deed would probably be the best bet...and then get AI.

I do know folks, including us, who have bought enough CL for Elite Premier. Our resale Blvd deeds do not count for elite.

 

[muscae]

Im a little late coming to this conversation. The Centum+ for two years promotion is for a purchase of HGV Trust Points. It is targeted to owners who have a certain threshold of points, retail or resale. Your resale HGVC 114,000 met the threshold. I meet the threshold as a Max Premier+, formerly legacy EP. I've received the offer to go to Centum+ for two years with a 2000 HVC trust point purchase even though I would still be far short of 100000 points. I turned it down.

The trust points would be a separate bucket, and Centum+ can convert trust points to HHonors at 32:1. Premier+ can convert trust points to HHonors at 24:1. On the HVC side, Centum+ has an extra month booking window so I believe its 13 month for Centum and 12 month for Premier+, but it may be 14 and 13.

Overall, I think trust points is a bad buy. Note for emphasis. The two year Centum+ status trial is for new trust point purchases, not new HGVC deed purchases.

 

[EnjoyingHGV]

When you buy from the official resale office at CL, the points are elite qualifying. The best MF/pt are the 3 bed plat weeks but they are also the most expensive....but also the most points. The best elite level is elite premier which is, at least, 54,400 elite qualifying points. You can look in the HGVC portal and the elite page to see all the benefits but a quick summary is free booking, saving, converting to HH, depositing to RCI, and unlimited free guest certs, $250 lyft credit, access to other properties, upgrades when available with your HGVC reservations, 30% discount on OS, plus more....and you get access to DEX EU and II.

There are a number of us who have bought at CL for these benefits. There is no reason for AI with a bHC deed if you get EP. AI is just for free reservations so if you get EP, then you get that plus much more.

There are a number of TUG post, in this forum, about both CL and DEX EU.

https://www.craigendarroch.com/sales/ . You can email Kyrstie, her email address is on the sale page, and ask for the latest sales list.

The other thing to think about, when buying CL besides low MF/pt ownership, is using it in DEX EU. For it, then you need to understand how the tiers work and which units are which tiers to use them the most effectively. Even though a 3 bed plat week is the best MF/pt at CL, it isn't the best trader in DEX EU...because the system only goes to Tier 6. Both 2 bed plats and 3 bed plats are Tier 6 so you are paying too much when you exchange a 3 bed plat in the system, especially if you exchange for something less than a Tier 6...for example reserving a Tier 4 unit in Europe...that is why many of us have a mixture of 1 bed plats and 2 bed plats...for exchanges at different tiers. But, if your goal is EP and points in HGVC, primarily, then the 3 bed plat may be the best.

Also, look at the CL table in the DEX EU guide, attached, you want a Peak season week and then look at II...ideally, the week is also a high demand week for CL.

Look at this beautiful resort I found on IntervalWorld.com.

Hilton Grand Vacations Club at Craigendarroch Lodges, Ballater, Aberdeenshire AB35 5XA, U.K.

www.intervalworld.com

I just bought a Craigendarroch deed (waiting to transfer / won’t see points until 2027) and was curious if this still triggers legacy HGVC elite?

I heard they changed the language for “developer purchased” points when HGV max came out, but I have no interest in Max. I have a 15,360 retail deed in Hawaii (before I learned the ways) and adding the 13,440 deed from Craigendarroch (4k pounds but cheaper closing costs than a US resale).

If this works I may buy 2 more weeks worth from Craigendarroch!

Thanks!
(New to exploring resale).

 

[EnjoyingHGV]

Thank you so much to everyone for helping me out and for sharing your experience. This has been so helpful, and it's clear there is a tremendous amount of knowledge in this group. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to steer me in the right direction before I got too deep into something I didn't fully understand.

Based on the feedback here, I will be rescinding my purchase and spending more time researching the alternative paths that were suggested.

I'm particularly interested in learning more about the Craigendarroch Lodges strategy for obtaining Legacy Elite / Elite Premier status.

For those who have gone down that path, which week, season, unit type, or ownership should I be looking for? Is there a specific Craigendarroch ownership that is generally considered the best value for obtaining elite-qualifying status while keeping acquisition and maintenance costs as low as possible?

If I purchase the CL and successfully obtain Legacy EP status, is there still any reason to purchase a bHC deed afterward?

In other words, what additional benefits does a bHC ownership provide that Legacy EP does not?

For those who have both, which would you choose?

Thanks again to everyone. This has been incredibly educational and I genuinely appreciate all the guidance.

I’m looking at doing the same thing to see if this still works for legacy HGVC — just had a 4k pound offer accepted for Craigendarroch 3br. I picked a high demand summer week.

 

[GT75]

I just bought a Craigendarroch deed (waiting to transfer / won’t see points until 2027) and was curious if this still triggers legacy HGVC elite?

It should but only if you purchased from the HGVC onsite resale agent at CL. If you did then I would discuss with her and Donna who handle the paperwork.

 

[HuskerATL]

I just bought a Craigendarroch deed (waiting to transfer / won’t see points until 2027) and was curious if this still triggers legacy HGVC elite?

I heard they changed the language for “developer purchased” points when HGV max came out, but I have no interest in Max. I have a 15,360 retail deed in Hawaii (before I learned the ways) and adding the 13,440 deed from Craigendarroch (4k pounds but cheaper closing costs than a US resale).

If this works I may buy 2 more weeks worth from Craigendarroch!

Thanks!
(New to exploring resale).

did you buy from the resale office at CL? If so, then yep, it counts for elite...many folks get elite via their office.