Presentation Today Park City- Offered Free Enrollment

[Carlsbadguy]

Went to a presentation today while staying at Marriott Mountainside. Incentive I took was 20,000 reward points. Presentation started with how great the point system was and how bad II was. According to the salesperson only 10% of owners are using II now. Mentioned a lot of new resorts New York, Washington DC. San Diego, Hawaii, Australia, Bali, and an island off of Hong Kong. He mentioned by the end of the year there would be 65 resorts in the system.

Point purchases started at 4,500 points, then 3,500 then 2,000, then 1,500 and the lowest purchase was 1,000 points. Points were 12.00+ and going up next month. Mtc fee 50 cents a point. For 1,500 points and above there was a discount off the $12.00 per point plus double your purchase in bonus points. 1,500 points were $19,000+. All purchases would include free enrollment of my weeks, which would cost $2,395. Declined to purchase.

I currently own a Silver Season Summit Watch worth 1,400 points and EOY Kauai Beach Club worth 3,375 points. The Kauai Beach Club unit was bought resale, but before the cut off date.

The person came in to offer the vacation package. 4 nights for $1,195 including 50,000 Marriott reward points and first declined. When we declined the closer said, "Oh I see your weeks are not enrolled, we can include free enrollment if you purchase the vacation package. So we decided to enroll. Figured over the next couple years will save a couple hundred in II fees as we always lock off and do 2 trades.

Now that we are enrolled, I was wondering if I an eligible to rent points from owners. What is the going rental rate? I have 2 weeks deposited in II now so I guess I will still have to use II to trade those weeks? I received a confirmation email my weeks are enrolled. Is there a website to go to? Any hints on scheduling? Is there any reason I should buy more points at this time?

Any hints on using the system would be appreciated.
Thanks

 

[davidvel]

We did the exact same thing. Going for 4 night over spring break in Tahoe with our encore package.

- Yes you can rent points. Going rate is .45-.55 a point.
- You should see the options for your points in your online account in a week or two.
-Yes, the weeks in your old account will have to be used up there

No reason to buy points now, you can rent for the same price as MF, with no upfront cost.

 

[cp73]

The person came in to offer the vacation package. 4 nights for $1,195 including 50,000 Marriott reward points and first declined. When we declined the closer said, "Oh I see your weeks are not enrolled, we can include free enrollment if you purchase the vacation package. So we decided to enroll.

That was a good deal. Probably better than the original deal offered at the beginning for $600 I believe which included 500 free points. Congratulations....now it will be interesting to see if you like using points vs trading weeks.

 

[jimf41]

Was the 4 night package at any resort or just the one you were staying at. Was it just for off season or anytime?

 

[dioxide45]

This offer has been around for at least nine months. A great deal for those that are un-enrolled. Here is a thread from May 2015 discussing the free enrollment with Encore Package offer.

http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227576

 

[davidvel]

Was the 4 night package at any resort or just the one you were staying at. Was it just for off season or anytime?

Certain specified resorts. I'll post the full list later if no one beats me to it.

 

[SkyBlueWaters]

Are both your weeks acquired before the cut-off date? I bought mine after and hoping someone has an experience with getting it enrolled without having to purchase points.

 

[aka Julie]

I currently own a Silver Season Summit Watch worth 1,400 points and EOY Kauai Beach Club worth 3,375 points. The Kauai Beach Club unit was bought resale, but before the cut off date.

The person came in to offer the vacation package. 4 nights for $1,195 including 50,000 Marriott reward points and first declined. When we declined the closer said, "Oh I see your weeks are not enrolled, we can include free enrollment if you purchase the vacation package. So we decided to enroll. Figured over the next couple years will save a couple hundred in II fees as we always lock off and do 2 trades.

So they offered to enroll you for free even though you had a resale week (bought prior to DC) if you bought the vacation package?

I just may be persuaded to attend a presentation at our upcoming visit at ShadowRidge just to get this offer. Have no intention of buying any points, but have been on the fence to enroll our 3 weeks (2 developer purchase and 1 resale bought early). But I just hate sitting thru all their "how wonderful DC is" spiel.

Also, since you just enrolled, do you have to pay the annual DC fee of $185 now or not til next year?

 

[davidvel]

So they offered to enroll you for free even though you had a resale week (bought prior to DC) if you bought the vacation package?

I just may be persuaded to attend a presentation at our upcoming visit at ShadowRidge just to get this offer. Have no intention of buying any points, but have been on the fence to enroll our 3 weeks (2 developer purchase and 1 resale bought early). But I just hate sitting thru all their "how wonderful DC is" spiel.

Yes, when they offer you the encore downstairs, say "I thought my weeks would get enrolled with this offer." Did ours at Shadow Ridge.

Attached is the list of resorts.

We enrolled in June, and didn't have to pay the fee until the end of the year (for the next year).

 

[Carlsbadguy]

The list of resorts attached is the same list I was presented. I do not know about the $185 enrollment fee for this year. I should have asked. I may try to get a few nights in New York when it opens if it is open by June.

Looking over the fine print the price is locked at $12.92 a point for 12 months and the stay must be completed in 18 months. Minimum purchase is 6 beneficial interests so 1,500 points to have the price locked in and the $1,195 applied to the purchase. This was not mentioned. Since I doubt I will be purchasing points this doesn't make a difference.

I was wondering if anyone has attended their encore presentation and how hard sell they were.

Will I eventually be getting a link to a website and some information that explains how to use the program?

The Summit Watch week was bought from developer and the Kauai week was bought pre cut off date- don't remember exactly when.

 

[davidvel]

Will I eventually be getting a link to a website and some information that explains how to use the program?

Did you get your "Please confirm your enrollment" email? We got this about 2 weeks after the presentation.

About 3 weeks after confirming, we received a "Welcome to the Marriott Vacation Club Destinations exchange program!" email and the DC options showed up in our account.

No real documentation unless it came in the mail that I don't recall, but the 2nd email has a link to learning center: Vacation Club Learning Center

We never received any notice/invoice for DC dues until the December billing for 2016.

 

[Powerguy]

We went to the sales presentation at MFC and it was actually a very enjoyable experience. At the end was offered the option to enroll both of our resale weeks (pre 2010) for $695 without the encore stay and required presentation requirement. Also received $175 to attend today's presentation. Seemed like a good deal to me.

 

[thinze3]

Are both your weeks acquired before the cut-off date? I bought mine after and hoping someone has an experience with getting it enrolled without having to purchase points.

This is a good question and could make it worth purchasing a vacation package for some existing DC members.

 

[dioxide45]

Are both your weeks acquired before the cut-off date? I bought mine after and hoping someone has an experience with getting it enrolled without having to purchase points.

This is a good question and could make it worth purchasing a vacation package for some existing DC members.

The OP of the thread linked in post #5 indicated it was for pre 6/20/2010 external weeks. Not sure that they would offer what is a screaming deal when they offered what was close to extortion with the promotion that ended last year where they offered to enroll otherwise ineligible weeks by buying a certain number of trust points.

 

[kds4]

The OP of the thread linked in post #5 indicated it was for pre 6/20/2010 external weeks. Not sure that they would offer what is a screaming deal when they offered what was close to extortion with the promotion that ended last year where they offered to enroll otherwise ineligible weeks by buying a certain number of trust points.

Therein lies the rub. It appears that the 'enroll your weeks for free with purchase of an Encore package' offer applies only to 'pre-2010' resale weeks (an excellent offer to consider IMHO) versus the offer dioxide references that is for 'post-2010' weeks (which we also heard during our last presentation for our unenrolled post-2010 week) where you had to 'buy' the number of points your unit was worth in DC to be able to enroll it (which I agree with dioxide is ridiculous).

"Pre" versus "Post" makes all the difference in this conversation.

 

[thinze3]

Therein lies the rub. It appears that the 'enroll your weeks for free with purchase of an Encore package' offer applies only to 'pre-2010' resale weeks (an excellent offer to consider IMHO) versus the offer dioxide references that is for 'post-2010' weeks (which we also heard during our last presentation for our unenrolled post-2010 week) where you had to 'buy' the number of points your unit was worth in DC to be able to enroll it (which I agree with dioxide is ridiculous).

"Pre" versus "Post" makes all the difference in this conversation.

The OP mentions that his week was Pre June 2010, but I don't see where it was a requirement to make the deal work. It would be interesting to find out.

 

[Cobra1950]

On top of the incentive discussed, Marriott is now willing to take back low value Bronze and Silver weeks of people no longer wanting to pay escalating maintenance fees (if they buy minimum DC points), Not a bad deal if you have two or three of these things with $1500+ per week each. I have been told this at two presentations in last 2 months!

 

[SueDonJ]

On top of the incentive discussed, Marriott is now willing to take back low value Bronze and Silver weeks of people no longer wanting to pay escalating maintenance fees (if they buy minimum DC points), Not a bad deal if you have two or three of these things with $1500+ per week each. I have been told this at two presentations in last 2 months!

MVW has been actively buying back Weeks for quite some time now although there is no guarantee that any certain Weeks will be accepted. (See details and discussion in this thread: Marriott is BUYING BACK TIMESHARES [2012 / Ongoing].) Did they say during your presentations if the Bronze and Silver Weeks that they'll take back as a Trust Points purchase incentive, are Weeks that won't be accepted in the buyback program? It's understandable if you didn't ask but I figured it was worth checking just in case. Thanks!

 

[SueDonJ]

The OP mentions that his week was Pre June 2010, but I don't see where it was a requirement to make the deal work. It would be interesting to find out.

When the free enrollment incentive was first introduced and since then, every report to TUG about it has been that the incentive is available only for otherwise-eligible Weeks (i.e. pre-6/20/10 US and Caribbean Weeks, pre-6/18/12 Euro Weeks.) Several TUGgers who received emails about it from their sales reps were able to verify that it applies to only eligible Weeks. It's also been discussed in several threads related to sales presentations and/or Trust Points purchases.

Last year beginning 8/27/15 there was a Trust Points purchase incentive that allowed enrollment of otherwise-ineligible Weeks purchased prior to 8/15/15. That incentive was extended once through 12/30/15 but as far as we know it's no longer available. (See this thread: New Sales Incentive - Enrolling Post-6/20/10 (formerly ineligible) Weeks.)

 

[Carlsbadguy]

Nothing was mentioned in the presentation about taking back my Silver week if I bought into the points program. All the numbers used were combining the point values from the weeks I own with the additional purchased points.

It did seem like the resale week had to be bought before the 2010 cutoff date for the offer to be valid. The salesman checked the eligibility before he started the offer and and the person who sold the encore package made a comment about my weeks being eligible for the offer.