Premium Platinum vs Platinum Weeks at Marriott Lakeshore Reserve

[majohnson0612]

All,

Quick question. Looking to purchase at Marriot Lakeshore Reserve (a Marriott Vacation Network resale on Redweek), and there seems to be two seasons:

Platinum: Weeks 1-5 & Weeks 18-52

Premium Platinum: Weeks 6-17

If you buy in the floating weeks of Platinum, I'm assuming you can't use a week that falls from 6-17, listed as "Premium Platinum"...but if you buy a deed that is "Premium Platinum", can you use a week in 1-5 or 18-52? We most likely will always visit in mid to late July.

Does the "premium platinum" deeded week carry more weight if you want to exchange to stay at another resort?

The listed deed states it is in the Premium Platinum weeks.

Thanks, Mike

 

[tschwa2]

You can only book the weeks listed in your season. The think I like about Lakeshore Reserve is that it has lock off units that consist of two one bedroom units instead of a one bedroom and a studio. That's a big plus. The downside is that resort- unlike the other Marriott Orlando ones does not have a single season that includes Easter, summer and Christmas/NYE week.

 

[akdrc]

I get how a Platinum could not book in a Premium Platinum week, but why not the other way around? I'm still pretty much a newbie here, so maybe a silly question.... but I need to know. Thank you.

 

[Fasttr]

I get how a Platinum could not book in a Premium Platinum week, but why not the other way around? I'm still pretty much a newbie here, so maybe a silly question.... but I need to know. Thank you.

If all weeks were sold out....and some PP folks booked in P season....there would not be enough weeks to go around in P season and some P folks would not have a week to use. That's how developers go to jail.

 

[tschwa2]

Because if platinum plus owners can book platinum (and platinum can't book plat +) then there won't be enough units for the platinum owners to book. You can only book what you own (are deeded). You have no rights to others deeded inventory. You can exchange through II.

 

[SueDonJ]

I get how a Platinum could not book in a Premium Platinum week, but why not the other way around? I'm still pretty much a newbie here, so maybe a silly question.... but I need to know. Thank you.

Not a silly question but it's a simple answer that maybe can't be explained other than, "because." At Lakeshore Reserve there are two seasons, Platinum and Premier Platinum, and owners can directly book only into the season which they own. Think about it - if PremPlat owners were allowed to book Plat Weeks, the risk is that there wouldn't be enough Plat Weeks remaining for all Plat owners to be able to use their Weeks. (Doh! Other TUGgers beat me to the punch.)

Owners who enroll their Weeks in the Destination Club can convert their Weeks to DC Points and use those to exchange into the other Lakeshore season or to any other Marriott resort, or, enrolled and un-enrolled Weeks can be exchanged through II to the other Lakeshore season, other Marriott resorts, or any other resorts within II's system. All exchanges are based on availability so there are no guarantees that what you want to exchange into will be a done deal.

 

[answeeney]

I get how a Platinum could not book in a Premium Platinum week, but why not the other way around? I'm still pretty much a newbie here, so maybe a silly question.... but I need to know. Thank you.

I think the explanations given so far about not being able to book out of season are correct and true of most resorts and seasons. However, there is a precedent for cross season booking in the Spanish Marriott properties. There, apparently, a Gold season owner cannot book into a Gold Holiday week but "subject to availability" a Gold Holiday week owner can secure a Gold week. Presumably Marriott do some jiggery-pokery in the background to ensure everyone gets a fair shot at booking a week.

I cannot say whether Lakeshore has a similar system.

 

[bazzap]

I think the explanations given so far about not being able to book out of season are correct and true of most resorts and seasons. However, there is a precedent for cross season booking in the Spanish Marriott properties. There, apparently, a Gold season owner cannot book into a Gold Holiday week but "subject to availability" a Gold Holiday week owner can secure a Gold week. Presumably Marriott do some jiggery-pokery in the background to ensure everyone gets a fair shot at booking a week.

I cannot say whether Lakeshore has a similar system.

Yes, I checked out the cross season booking in Spanish resorts when deciding whether to buy Gold or Gold Holiday.
Specifically, I questioned the impact on availability of inventory for Gold week owners and received this response.
"There is a certain limited level of inventory in the Gold season which is available for Gold Holiday owners to book, however Gold Holiday owners do not have complete access to booking all dates in the Gold season. Our inventory management teams carefully monitor inventory levels and ensures there is an adequate amount of Gold weeks solely available to Gold season owners"

 

[SueDonJ]

I think the explanations given so far about not being able to book out of season are correct and true of most resorts and seasons. However, there is a precedent for cross season booking in the Spanish Marriott properties. There, apparently, a Gold season owner cannot book into a Gold Holiday week but "subject to availability" a Gold Holiday week owner can secure a Gold week. Presumably Marriott do some jiggery-pokery in the background to ensure everyone gets a fair shot at booking a week.

I cannot say whether Lakeshore has a similar system.

Some fixed Weeks are allowed to book into other seasons but as bazzap said where it's allowed there are inventory controls at work to ensure that the rights of all other owners are not infringed. I don't know if PremPlat Weeks at Lakeshore can be fixed Weeks but if so, based on this Fixed-to-Float chart furnished by MVW it's not allowed at that resort.

 

[cwtkm3]

Yes, I checked out the cross season booking in Spanish resorts when deciding whether to buy Gold or Gold Holiday.
Specifically, I questioned the impact on availability of inventory for Gold week owners and received this response.
"There is a certain limited level of inventory in the Gold season which is available for Gold Holiday owners to book, however Gold Holiday owners do not have complete access to booking all dates in the Gold season. Our inventory management teams carefully monitor inventory levels and ensures there is an adequate amount of Gold weeks solely available to Gold season owners"

This is very interesting because my ownership documentation says I can book any GH or gold week - this is why we bought MMBR GH for a premium price over gold at the time. We were told the rules changed in 2007.

To date I have never been unsuccessful at booking gold weeks.

 

[bazzap]

This is very interesting because my ownership documentation says I can book any GH or gold week - this is why we bought MMBR GH for a premium price over gold at the time. We were told the rules changed in 2007.

To date I have never been unsuccessful at booking gold weeks.

I can only comment about Playa Andaluza, not Marbella Beach Resort, but I am sure you are right you can book any GH or Gold week.
I believe that any limitation is just on the volume of inventory available in each Gold week for GH owners to book.
Hopefully this will not prevent you booking Gold weeks in future, as you have experienced so far, whilst ensuring Gold week owners are still able to book in their own more restricted season.

 

[dioxide45]

I think the explanations given so far about not being able to book out of season are correct and true of most resorts and seasons. However, there is a precedent for cross season booking in the Spanish Marriott properties. There, apparently, a Gold season owner cannot book into a Gold Holiday week but "subject to availability" a Gold Holiday week owner can secure a Gold week. Presumably Marriott do some jiggery-pokery in the background to ensure everyone gets a fair shot at booking a week.

I cannot say whether Lakeshore has a similar system.

Consider though that a fixed holiday like Gold Holiday, or Platinum Plus is only one or two weeks, where at Lakeshore Reserve, Premier Platinum consists of 12 weeks. SO there are a lot more owners that would have the ability to book Platinum season. It just doesn't work as well.

 

[Saintsfanfl]

Does the "premium platinum" deeded week carry more weight if you want to exchange to stay at another resort?

It may carry less weight believe it or not. The best exchange weeks in Orlando are weeks 51/52. They really should have included 51/52 as part of "Premier Platinum". Premier Platinum has a higher trading power average per week, but if you picked only one week Platinum has a high power. Marriott doesn't blend the trading power.