Potty train a dog

[myip]

Just wondering if anyone have suggestion on how to potty train a dog. We got the 3 years old dog from an rescue organization. We crate the dog at night and in the morning, we feed the dog. We took the dog out for a long walk. She doesn't pee or poop when we go walking. We come back 30 or 40 minutes later. Within 5-10 minutes in the house, she peeps and poops in the house. She doesn't like to go peep and poop outside of the house whenever we go walking. As soon as we come home, she does it. Any suggestion!

 

[DeniseM]

I would keep her outside until she goes - don't let her back in until she is done.

*I'm assuming you have a pleasant grassy area for her to go, and there are no other animals barking or annoying her in the yard?

 

[presley]

Every dog is different. I have 5. One of them prefers to potty inside. There have been times where we've come back from being outside and she goes straight to the potty pad when we get inside. I keep potty pads by the backdoor for the times when the door is closed and I am not at home and for some reason, she prefers that when given the choice. Sometimes I think she doesn't want anyone looking at her when she goes.

If you don't want a lifetime of potty pads like we have here, you can try keeping your dog in an exercise pen when she is inside. Since she goes right after you come inside, put the dog in the pen and then maybe 15 minutes later, take the dog to the correct potty spot again. The other option is to keep the dog on a leash when you are inside and you need to take her out every 30 mins until he goes. Then, allow her to not be on a leash until you think it is time for him to go again.

My dogs do all at least pee (several times) on a walk, but some won't poop til we are home. I keep them outside for 5 - 10 minutes before we can go inside. They will usually potty outside at that time. With rescued dogs, you have no idea what the history is and stuff like potty training can take a lot longer.

 

[Passepartout]

Reward good behavior (praise, Good Dog, treat) when she 'goes' outside. Smack on the nose with newspaper, throw outside, chastise if she goes inside. Don't feed her until after she's 'done her business'. Develop a command. My dog knows (when outside on grass) 'Do your Business!' (learned that one from people who train guide dogs for the blind) and gets a treat when he complies. He's never had an accident inside. In fact though he has a dog door and can come and go as he wishes, he won't even poop in his own yard. I have to take him on a couple of 'walks' a day. Maybe it's the dog that has ME trained. Hmmm.

Jim

 

[SMHarman]

The dog training for my last dog included training them to pee.

You walked them in a spiral circle and gave them the pee command.

Have you done any additional training?

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[geekette]

Agree with staying outside WITH DOG until business is done, then a big ole party "GOOD PEE PEE OUTSIDE!" and pop a treat into dog's mouth RIGHT THEN. Don't wait to get inside for the reward, have it in your pocket.

Routine is super important, make one, stick with it.

Good luck, and thank you for rescuing!!

 

[Phydeaux]

I'd suggest you invest in a dog (owner) training classes. Let's face it, it's really less about training the dog as it is in training the dog owner. No offense intended, but if you're seeking advice on a forum for basic a problem as this, chances are you need additional guidance on other aspects of dog training, such as listening to basic commands - 'leave it, drop it, stay, come, down, off', etc.

Btw, our dogs are trained to ring a bell that hangs from our mud room door when they need to go out. It's not rocket surgery, but you should start now. One of our dogs opens the sliding patio screen door to go out. The other, no. She's a queen, and expects the door to be opened for her

Good luck.

 

[raygo123]

Should have gotten a cat

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[Passepartout]

Dogs have masters. Cats have staff.

 

[Phydeaux]

Drug sniffing cat? Search & Rescue cat? Guide cat? Assistance cat? Working cat? Sled cat? Hunting cat? Guard cat? Tracking cat? Police cat? Service & assistance cat? Herding cat? Water rescue cat???

 

[raygo123]

Never knew a cat was so versatile!

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[Jestjoan]

Positive training

"A rolled up newspaper can be an effective training tool when used properly. For instance, use the rolled-up newspaper if your dog chews something or has a housebreaking accident. Use the newspaper only if you were not able to interfere at the right time because you did not pay attention. Take the rolled-up newspaper and hit yourself over the head as you repeat the phrase: "I FORGOT TO WATCH MY DOG, I FORGOT TO WATCH MY DOG." Use this technique over and over again. After several corrections you will be conditioned enough to keep an eye on your dog."

 

[Phydeaux]

"A rolled up newspaper can be an effective training tool when used properly. For instance, use the rolled-up newspaper if your dog chews something or has a housebreaking accident. Use the newspaper only if you were not able to interfere at the right time because you did not pay attention. Take the rolled-up newspaper and hit yourself over the head as you repeat the phrase: "I FORGOT TO WATCH MY DOG, I FORGOT TO WATCH MY DOG." Use this technique over and over again. After several corrections you will be conditioned enough to keep an eye on your dog."

 

[falmouth3]

Neither of my current dogs will poop on a walk. They want to go out in the fenced in backyard to do that. Beats carrying a poop bag on the walk. (I always have a bag, just in case.) Not sure why they've both decided to do it that way, but it works for me.

My boy started doing that even when I had another dog who pooped on our walk almost as soon as we left the house.

Rescue dogs have a history and it may be tough to break them of what is now considered a bad habit but staying outside with them until they've done the task is a good idea.

 

[Phydeaux]

Neither of my current dogs will poop on a walk. They want to go out in the fenced in backyard to do that. Beats carrying a poop bag on the walk. (I always have a bag, just in case.) Not sure why they've both decided to do it that way, but it works for me.

My boy started doing that even when I had another dog who pooped on our walk almost as soon as we left the house.

Rescue dogs have a history and it may be tough to break them of what is now considered a bad habit but staying outside with them until they've done the task is a good idea.

This is the second reference that alludes rescue dogs have 'history'. And how does anyone know the 'history' of any non-rescue dog? How do you know what took place in the home or kennel of any dog?

 

[taterhed]

We've rescued two dogs over 3 yrs--both with very bad potty problems due to being caged-in-concrete cells.

IMHO, from recent and current experience, the crate routine is the only way.

The dog can ONLY be in one of three states:

1. crated
2. outside
3. In your immediate and direct control (3 feet or less--eyes or hands on).

Sooner or later, with lots of praise and encouragement, the routine will be set. It might take a few months depending on the dogs level of trauma from being confined/de-trained.

Outside should always be to the same common place (a potty place or walk), the dog should be supervised for the entire visit (till business done) and heavily praised for pos results. We like the word "Hurry...Hurry" as a command to encourage.

If you do a loop walk (around block or park or yard) the dog will know how long the walk is and know when time to return is coming. So, they will time activity till end/beginning of walk depending on need.

You have to maintain this routine for quite a while. Not easy. We spent a good deal of time chasing dog from room to room. I'm sure you know, but you can only (effectively) scold a dog for accidents when you catch them 'in the act' If they've left the room, they probably have no idea. Some dogs are different, but most rescues are broken.
Think of the crate treatment as a slow transition from prison to freedom. Rehabilitation for dogs. Give up too soon...you'll have recidivism. (I looked that word up).

good luck.

 

[stmartinfan]

I trained both of the dogs I've owned to go on command. In my case the phrase is "hurry up"! One was a puppy and the other an older rescue dog.

I got the technique from a dog training book written by the Monks of New Skete. They train lots of dogs and their book has been in print for many years.

First, you take the dog out when it should need to go, such as 1st thing in the morning. You stay with it on a leash until it goes, then say what ever your phrase is as it's going and reward with a treat and lot of praise/petting. You do this over and over again for a period of days. You can also say your phrase and give a treat when it starts to go while you're taking it for a walk. If your dog hasn't gone when you're out and you can't watch to catch it while it's getting ready to go (usually they have some "tell," like walking in a circle, etc.,) then you may want to keep it in a crate to prevent it from going inside and take it out again soon. One trick the Monks recommend is to put the dog on a leash and keep it close to you in the house as you go about your work, so you can catch it before it starts to go and run it outside.

Next, you start taking the dog out, saying your phrase and usually it will start to go. (If the dog hasn't learned yet, go back to the first step for a while again.) After it finishes, you reward it with the treat and lots of praise. My dog sometimes takes up to a minute to actually go because he has to find the perfect spot by sniffing around in circles! After a few weeks of this, you can drop the treat and just do the praise.

This is a valuable "trick' for a dog to know, because you can then ensure they go if you're going to be leaving them at home for a while. Even if my dog's gone recently, he will go upon my command again, so I know he can make it home alone for some time without having an accident.

As someone else recommends, you may want to consider a dog training class to learn the basic principles. Most of the time, the principle is catching the dog doing the right thing, rewarding/praising it and repeating lots of times!

 

[SMHarman]

This is the second reference that alludes rescue dogs have 'history'. And how does anyone know the 'history' of any non-rescue dog? How do you know what took place in the home or kennel of any dog?

You don't but undoing weeks of weaning vs years in other situations is gonna be easier.

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[taterhed]

Dogs have masters. Cats have staff.

That's curable with enough drugs you know......

 

[Phydeaux]

You don't but undoing weeks of weaning vs years in other situations is gonna be easier.

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I didn't make the assumption all rescues were 'years' old. Neither of ours were - we rescued both as puppies.

 

[SMHarman]

I didn't make the assumption all rescues were 'years' old. Neither of ours were - we rescued both as puppies.

Ah. That's how I interpreted the rescue vs breeder. But as you highlight it can also be young pups breeder vs unplanned.

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[DeniseM]

I didn't make the assumption all rescues were 'years' old. Neither of ours were - we rescued both as puppies.

From the first post:

We got the 3 years old dog from an rescue organization.

 

[Phydeaux]

From the first post:

I'm aware of that.

I was referring to these comments: "..With rescued dogs, you have no idea what the history is... and Rescue dogs have a history".

 

[geriduffin]

I grew up with dogs. My older brother had endless patience and was such a gentle trainer so our dog was perfect as are all his dogs to this day. I call him the dog whisperer. I definitely do not have that in me so I have cats. With cats you are simply "the help". Keep the water and food bowl full and the litter box clean and things will go well for you. Fail at any of those and there will be vengeance!


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[taterhed]

Well, one of our rescue dogs had a history.

She was a death-row dog due to her breed. She had been in a tiny, sub-standard concrete 4x6 cell (she's a big dog). The first time we saw her, she was frantically pacing the pen, covered in feces and urine, had severe nervous diarrhea and was a real candidate for euthanasia. She had parasites, worms and giardia. She was 45 pounds when surrendered, 64 pounds on the day we took her home.

Sophie didn't sleep or even lay down for 24 hours. I know, I stayed up with her all day and all night. I slept just outside her kennel. After 24 hours, she began to eat and drink a little and finally, exhausted, sank to the floor and slept. I won't show you the ugly pictures. Needless to say, with the parasites and lower GI problems, we had our share of messy accidents. God love a good carpet cleaner and wood floors. It was all worth it.

Sophie is one of the finest, kindest and sweetest dogs we've ever known. She is truly a saint. She still has bad nervous habits sometimes (licking, nudging) but she is very well housebroken and loves her home (now almost 2 years later). She is still a little underweight at 110 pounds, but she's at a comfortable and healthy weight.

This is a dog with a history.

Adoption day

sophie

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