Beefnot
TUG Member
When someone "drives by" one of the forums for the different TS resort systems and posts an unflattering opinion about the developer/system yet are not an owner of that system, does that annoy you? Why?
When someone "drives by" one of the forums for the different TS resort systems and posts an unflattering opinion about the developer/system yet are not an owner of that system, does that annoy you? Why?
DVC is THE WORST because, "you can only use your points at your home resort and you can't make reservations until three months before check-in, plus MF's cost about four thousand a year for a studio unit"
Shux no.When someone "drives by" one of the forums for the different TS resort systems and posts an unflattering opinion about the developer/system yet are not an owner of that system, does that annoy you?
How about when folks challenge the owners on why they own that particular system, or why they think it makes no sense for the owners to convert to the developer's point system or whatnot?
Just heard this again yeaterday
"You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facta"
When someone "drives by" one of the forums for the different TS resort systems and posts an unflattering opinion about the developer/system yet are not an owner of that system, does that annoy you? Why?
How about those of us who are disgruntled ex-owners of one of the developer systems. After all, we bought, we became disallusioned, we stopped drinking the Kool-Aid, and we sold. Maybe we have something of value to offer.
George
I like the vigorous exchange of ideas, debate, discouragement, and encouragement.
How about when folks challenge the owners on why they own that particular system, or why they think it makes no sense for the owners to convert to the developer's point system or whatnot?
I like the vigorous exchange of ideas, debate, discouragement, and encouragement.
... There are a few Kool-Aid drinkers in the Marriott forum, but most of them are very sensible as well. Seeing as I owned a Marriott TS for all of 2 months late last year, I have developed an affinity for Marriott. There are a large number of active members, I drive by there more frequently and post my perspectives not so much on Marriott itself, but how the owners see things (e.g., why own Silver or Gold, the value of the points system, etc.). Good rational discourse for the most part. ...
How about those of us who are disgruntled ex-owners of one of the developer systems. After all, we bought, we became disallusioned, we stopped drinking the Kool-Aid, and we sold. Maybe we have something of value to offer.
George
How about those of us who are disgruntled ex-owners of one of the developer systems. After all, we bought, we became disallusioned, we stopped drinking the Kool-Aid, and we sold. Maybe we have something of value to offer.
George
All of that is fine by me. That's how we can all learn things, by asking questions and getting answers that help us figure out how to make the most out of the timeshares we own as well as the ones we might be looking to buy. There simply isn't any one timeshare company/resort/system that works for everyone, and the only way to figure out if something will work is to learn all you can about the different options.
What I find annoying is the challenger who thinks his/her particular situation is applicable to everyone, the challenger who resorts to insulting anyone who has reached a different opinion because of different circumstances.
Oh, but lookie there - for all your talk about encouraging lively debate, it seems you're one of the biggest offenders for taking debate down a disrespectful path. We've been through this already - "koolaid drinker" is an offensive insult in that it implies that the person to whom you're referring is uninformed, irrationally willing to be led down the wrong path like a blind sheep. The fact that you know that some of us find it an offensive term, yet you still choose to use it in a similar fashion, says more about you than the people to whom you're referring.![]()
I'm on the Marriott board all the time and honestly don't see any "koolaid drinkers" on there - maybe you can point out the specific posts that you see wherein somebody has said that they're blindly willing to champion any- and every Marriott product simply because it's offered by Marriott. I'm not saying such people don't exist, but I'd be hard-pressed to find evidence of them here on TUG where we dissect and analyze everything forty ways from Sunday. So, why don't you name these "koolaid drinkers" and engage them in a respectful discussion about why you think they're being led astray? Maybe we could all learn something from it.
SueDonJ comes out of the woodwork! There you go getting all skinsitive. So should I have said "drinking the kook-aid" like bogey21, and that would have been okay? Or do you cut him some slack on your rant because he was a former legitimate owner, unlike myself, so you are less annoyed by his comments?
Also, the point of a kool-aid drinker is that they are unable to see reason no matter how rational or respectful the conversation is. And I have witnessed the drinking of the kool-aid whereby it is impossible for one to concede even the most basic truth. Did I call you one, or anyone else in particular? No, so chill out. Do I believe you personally are one? That was not the point of this thread, so I will refrain from responding on that.
Who gets to decide who is unable to see reason? YOU? If I don't see your point or don't see things your way, that does not make me incapable of seeing reason. I may simply have a different perspective. Use different logic. That doesn't make me a blind follower anymore than it makes you some amazing free thinker.
Also, lay off of Sue. telling people to chill out is no better than continuing to use terms people find offensive.
Sue did gently chastise George. Perhaps you missed that when you decided that she cut him slack as a previous owner.