Planet Hollywood Towers - the #1 timeshare in the US?

[PerryM]

I deleted this post

 

[TUGBrian]

you want my opinion on this thread...I had stayed out of it before but since you are insulting/bashing/commenting on TUG and its policy.

you started the thread....not everyone agreed with you due to westgate involvement...and you took offense to people not agreeing with your new plan.

You then took it upon yourself to insult TUG claiming you "dont like where its going or what its turned into". Then you deleted your informative posts...and left your other little comments instead...thus removing anything helpful you contributed to this post to begin with in an attempt to get it deleted.

IMO these actions are far worse than anyone else who participated in this thread.

you have repeatedly asserted you would not participate in this thread any longer and gone back each and every time to "re-participate".

I am sorry that a good number of these people dont agree with your plan, and I am not sure why you care so much that they dont...more money for you right?

Quite honestly if I had a plan to make a million dollars and shared it with my friends...and they all told me I was nuts...id still be laughing my way to the bank after I made the million.

This is the reason people think you have more to gain here than you are letting on.

I think this thread alone will provide for a new policy of not editing your posts after a certain amount of time.

 

[jerseygirl]

Want to add my support for a block on editing after X amount of time (and I think it should be minutes ... just enough time to correct embarrassing spelling/grammar errors).

 

[BocaBum99]

I have to say that this has got to be the most entertaining thread I've read in my short time on TUG so I really hope it stays .

Nice post. Very strong points you make.

Regarding entertaining threads. Hang around for a while. There are more. We haven't had a good points vs. weeks debate lately. Those are equally entertaining. Anything that gets people's blood boiling is very entertaining.

Also, anything related to timeshare rentals is an entertaining topic, especially if the acronym of RCI is included anywhere in the post. If you want to open a thread that is guaranteed to have more than 100 posts, just post a message like "I think anyone should be able to rent any timeshare, anytime. Discuss." You may get 200 or 300 posts if you randomly insert RCI anywhere in that first sentence. LOL.

I think one of the reasons this thread is getting so much attention is that it challenges the conventional wisdom of never buying from the developer. I think finding a proof point to further his thesis of pre-construction prices and build cycles is the point that Perry was truly trying to make.

I happen to agree with Perry that you can be okay if you buy pre-construction. You can even do "pretty good" meaning you don't lose your shirt. But, as I said earlier, just because you can do "okay" or "pretty good" doesn't mean it's a smart financial decision relative to the alternatives. Especially since this is timesharing and there is so much opportunity for GREAT investments, that ideas like this aren't very interesting to those interested in a financial investment in timesharing.

 

[cluemeister]

My point about my mother and name calling was missed by Perry.

Let me rephrase:

Perry, if someone calls you a name, (in this case a shill), and you're not, and you have a long reputation to back yourself up (you do), then why do you give a $#@! if someone on a message board calls you that name?

Respectfully,

Cluemeister

 

[jerseygirl]

I have to say that this has got to be the most entertaining thread I've read in my short time on TUG so I really hope it stays .

We've been having some great fun over on the hotel board lately, so if this thread stops entertaining you, come join us over there!

 

[BocaBum99]

My point about my mother and name calling was missed by Perry.

Let me rephrase:

Perry, if someone calls you a name, (in this case a shill), and you're not, and you have a long reputation to back yourself up (you do), then why do you give a $#@! if someone on a message board calls you that name?

Respectfully,

Cluemeister

No wonder they call you the Cluemeister because you have a Clue.

Your statement reminds me of a time when someone started a rumor of a friend that they had been taking drugs. I asked her about it and she just started laughing uncontrollably. It was so far off from her own self image and perception that it just sounded like a funny joke to her. I knew instantly that it was just a bad rumor and it immediately died out.

 

[cluemeister]

No wonder they call you the Cluemeister because you have a Clue.

Your statement reminds me of a time when someone started a rumor of a friend that they had been taking drugs. I asked her about it and she just started laughing uncontrollably. It was so far off from her own self image and perception that it just sounded like a funny joke to her. I knew instantly that it was just a bad rumor and it immediately died out.

Boca,

My wife sometimes calls me "clue-less meister". Can you speak to her for me?

 

[BocaBum99]

We've been having some great fun over on the hotel board lately, so if this thread stops entertaining you, come join us over there!

I'll have to go there and check it out.

 

[AwayWeGo]

Let Us Debate Hammer & Tongs, But Let Us Do So Politely.

Anything that gets people's blood boiling is very entertaining.

Some years ago Dear Abby (or maybe it was her twin sister Ann Landers, I don't know) had to call a halt to 1 of the longest-running blood-boiling topics ever to rile up her readers -- whether the toilet paper should unwind clockwise or anticlockwise off the roll.

Once the columns were printed, however, they were printed -- no going back & ducking away from what had appeared previously, good or bad or indifferent.

Something similar would be a TUG improvement for sure. When some topic of TUG-BBS discussion develops into full-bore debate, the participants should not be able to alter or expunge the content of prior entries. No mulligans. No do-overs. No take backs. Then, keeping that in mind, we can take greater care to keep our phrasing mild & polite even when our debating points are sharp & hard.

This is a cyber community of 17,000 or so friends & virtual neignbors, after all.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[BocaBum99]

We've been having some great fun over on the hotel board lately, so if this thread stops entertaining you, come join us over there!

Well, I checked it out. Hmm. Elite benefit changes boils the blood. Check.

I've seen the same thing happen for Fairfield and WorldMark. Developers create these Developer only benefits to get people to pay extra for their timeshares. So, when they take away those benefits, those people get angry. Makes sense to me.

 

[BocaBum99]

Some years ago Dear Abby (or maybe it was her twin sister Ann Landers, I don't know) had to call a halt to 1 of the longest-running blood-boiling topics ever to rile up her readers -- whether the toilet paper should unwind clockwise or anticlockwise off the roll.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

I think it should roll off the top and not against the wall.

 

[AwayWeGo]

After The Debate Dust Settles, The Wisdom Of T.U.G. Shines Through.

Developers create these Developer only benefits to get people to pay extra for their timeshares. So, when they take away those benefits, those people get angry.

Buy resale.

Skip costly developer benefits of questionable value.

Save thousands.

Avoid angry feelings when developers take away the benefits or escalate the costs for reaching their next premium plateau.

[ Too simple. There's got to be a catch. ]

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[BocaBum99]

Buy resale.

Skip costly developer benefits of questionable value.

Save thousands.

Avoid angry feelings when developers take away the benefits or escalate the costs for reaching their next premium plateau.

[ Too simple. There's got to be a catch. ]

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

This is directly on point for this thread. The general principle is that the lowest risk approach for an investment in timesharing is via the resale market. There are outlier cases that violate this principle, but they are the very small minority case.

 

[jerseygirl]

I think it should roll off the top and not against the wall.

Absolutely!

 

[e.bram]

Actually, I had to check my calender to make sure it wasn't April 1st.

 

[PerryM]

Good grief!

 

[bnoble]

I too have enjoyed reading the original claim, the supporting arguments, and the counter discussion. Five figures is out of my league for a timeshare purchase right now, let alone six, but still---very interesting and I've learned something. Too bad it entered a death spiral, but there you have it.

And, *of course* it should roll off the top and not against the wall, and anyone who says otherwise is itchin' for a fight.

 

[Fern Modena]

Maybe we should revisit this thread, about editing your notes long after they are posted. This thread has over 6,800 views and more than 200 notes to it. It was started on May 28th. Sometime on June 8th or 9th the OP decided that he no longer wanted to participate. Ok, I get it. But I don't think he should be able to edit out notes from almost two weeks ago.

This isn't the place to discuss it, though. Let's take the discussion to this link.

This is all JMHO, of course. And if you really want a laugh, I just edited this, cause I messed up the linkage.

Fern

 

[AwayWeGo]

No. 1 Freebies Offered At The No. 1 Timeshare ?

Five figures is out of my league for a timeshare purchase

You & me both.

Shucks, having approximately $5,500 tied up in 4 timeshares is actually $500 over our limit. But when the opportunity to buy that 4th 1 popped up last year -- $500 for an outstanding EEY floating Diamond-season 3BR lock-off Orlando timeshare -- the devil made us spring for it. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

BTW, what timeshare tour freebies do you suppose Mr. WestGate is offering for prospects interested in hearing the hard sell for that No. 1 Timeshare In The USA, at 5-figures for a full-freight buy-in ?

If the freebies are enticing enough, maybe I'll put on my TUG T-shirt & my TUB ball cap & go take the tour.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[tlwmkw]

Perrym seems so know what he is doing

I think Perry's point here is simply that if you act now you may be able to get something "unique" that won't be available on the re-sale market, and therefore may be more valuable later on.

It's like buying a car- most cars lose value as soon as you drive off the lot if you buy new, however if you buy a high price, collectible car (like the Ferrari that is being sold in europe soon for $1.5 million) then you may not lose your money and may even make some. Perry felt he could share this insight with the group. Many people have been upset at this but Perry believes it- only time will tell.

Perry, please don't stop posting- I also think this has been an interesting discussion. I agree some of the posts have been a little mean spirited and I think that should stop.

Good luck to you and to all who are in this group.

 

[BocaBum99]

Good grief!

Perry,

This is all in good fun. You will feel better if you just laugh out loud hysterically.

 

[AwayWeGo]

Is That Sizzle I Hear ?

I think Perry's point here is simply that if you act now you may be able to get something "unique" that won't be available on the re-sale market, and therefore may be more valuable later on.

Well, sure. Of course that's the point. Meanwhile, the scoffers are merely pointing out that this unique something is more apt to be the sound of sizzle than the taste of steak -- not that there's anything wrong with that for folks willing to pay for sizzle, or those smarter than the rest of us TUG schlubs who recognize added value where the rest just see desert mirage.

-- Alan Cole, McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.​

 

[CMF]

"Shane come back! Come back Shane!"

Why did everybody have to gang up on poor Perry and make him go away?

Maybe a laugh will bring him back

Charles

 

[Shoeshine]

I seriously do not think TUG employees should be adding to the mean spiritness
that has overtaken this thread .

And as you know, this isnt the first time.

By definition, TUG employees should not take part in , or feed into , mean, derogatory behaviour .

Oh , and feel free to edit this post out for being off-topic !!

Especially if that makes you feel superior !!

you want my opinion on this thread...I had stayed out of it before but since you are insulting/bashing/commenting on TUG and its policy.

you started the thread....not everyone agreed with you due to westgate involvement...and you took offense to people not agreeing with your new plan.

You then took it upon yourself to insult TUG claiming you "dont like where its going or what its turned into". Then you deleted your informative posts...and left your other little comments instead...thus removing anything helpful you contributed to this post to begin with in an attempt to get it deleted.

IMO these actions are far worse than anyone else who participated in this thread.

you have repeatedly asserted you would not participate in this thread any longer and gone back each and every time to "re-participate".

I am sorry that a good number of these people dont agree with your plan, and I am not sure why you care so much that they dont...more money for you right?

Quite honestly if I had a plan to make a million dollars and shared it with my friends...and they all told me I was nuts...id still be laughing my way to the bank after I made the million.

This is the reason people think you have more to gain here than you are letting on.

I think this thread alone will provide for a new policy of not editing your posts after a certain amount of time.