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Petition to get Hawaii open again. Please sign.

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I happen to think that petitions are very helpful. They allow a person to vent, to feel they are doing something. It is cathartic. That it doesn't actually change political policy (usually) is not the point. It's an outlet and if it helps people FEEL they are being heard, more power to it. I'd much rather see people signing a petition than marching on the steps of the capital.

I agree with the benefits of signing a petition as an outlet for protest. In view of the virus spread I can understand and agree with your preference to marching. However, from the need to vent perspective either one provides the outlet. In that vain i believe it is relevant to mention that yesterday was the 50th anniversary of the Kent State killing of 4 students by the National Guard for protesting the Vietnam War. My husband is particularly effected by that incident since one of his high school classmates was killed. I have accompanied him to a number of reunions when the incident was spoken of and the student memorialized. No matter how you feel about the protests against the restrictions and closing down of the economy I believe it is important to keep in mind that in the United States people have the right to free speech and to peacefully protest.
 

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I agree with the benefits of signing a petition as an outlet for protest. In view of the virus spread I can understand and agree with your preference to marching. However, from the need to vent perspective either one provides the outlet. In that vain i believe it is relevant to mention that yesterday was the 50th anniversary of the Kent State killing of 4 students by the National Guard for protesting the Vietnam War. My husband is particularly effected by that incident since one of his high school classmates was killed. I have accompanied him to a number of reunions when the incident was spoken of and the student memorialized. No matter how you feel about the protests against the restrictions and closing down of the economy I believe it is important to keep in mind that in the United States people have the right to free speech and to peacefully protest.
Absolutely. But the tenor is different if a few dozen of the fellow protestors mingling in the crowd are infected with a highly contagious virus.
 

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But the tenor is different if a few dozen of the fellow protestors mingling in the crowd

Also if there are 'flags' (you know the ones) and AK's everywhere.

I went to the first protest in our state. Mostly quiet. Just letting the Governor know that there is a group that supports a different decision.

Drove to the second and didn't even stop. Not MI bad, mind you, but I could see the 'fringe' element showing up. No way I want to support that.
 

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Also if there are 'flags' (you know the ones) and AK's everywhere.

I went to the first protest in our state. Mostly quiet. Just letting the Governor know that there is a group that supports a different decision.

Drove to the second and didn't even stop. Not MI bad, mind you, but I could see the 'fringe' element showing up. No way I want to support that.
Putting the flags and that part aside, the AK's and weapons, I cannot help but ask, why? Are they trying to suggest they are willing to shoot you if you don't do what they want? What exactly is the message they are trying to convey? That they are tough? Is their protest more compelling with a gun? If it's a gun rights protest, I get it. But open up the hair salon and manicure parlor, or else?
 

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I cannot help but ask, why?

Whoever finds that answer, put them on the team to find the vaccine.

That's why I wouldn't stay at the second one, it just defeats the entire point.

If I say much more, it will probably just create work for a moderator.
 

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Whoever finds that answer, put them on the team to find the vaccine.

That's why I wouldn't stay at the second one, it just defeats the entire point.

If I say much more, it will probably just create work for a moderator.
Well, just another one of those things I enjoy so much about Maui. Hardly ever see someone walking along the beach with an AK47. :whooopie:
 
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