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Pepsi's reign as America's No 2 soda is over - an 'underdog' has overtaken it

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Pepsi's reign as America's No 2 soda is over - an 'underdog' has overtaken it​

  • Dr Pepper has now overtaken Pepsi - but is still way behind Coca-Cola

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Pepsi was invented in New Bern, here in eastern North Carolina. There is a museum in the building of the former drug store whose soda fountain first served it to customers.
 
I prefer diet Pepsi over diet Coke which now seems to have more of a seltzer taste than in the past.

But I buy whatever is on sale at 4 for $5 which used to be 5 for $5 which used to be on sale for $0.89 per 2 liter.
 
What took so long? :banana:
 
I was always partial to Dr Pepper as is DW. Second is A&W Root Beer (from the stand while they were independent franchisees)
 
I loved the gallons of A&W in the 1970's and 80's. We bought gallons often. So much sugar we ingested back then.

My current favorite is the new Zero Sugar Dr Pepper/Cream Soda blend. It's so good. I like sugary Dr. Pepper and never did like the Diet, but the Zero Sugar one is okay.
 
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I can't stand Diet Coke. Tastes like watery chemicals. It's night-and-day from Coke Zero, which to me tastes just like Coke (a great thing). DW loves Diet Pepsi (which I also like, but not as much as Coke Zero). Diet Dr. Pepper tastes great, too.
 
We go through a fair amount of Coke Zero here. It tastes more like regular Coke. Cindy mentioned the Dr. Pepper/Creme Soda Zero. I'll try that when I see it.
 
Everyone New Bern, is in North Carolina.
New Bern, NC is a place for true R&R IMHO.
 
When I stop at the Costco Food court or a hamburger joint, I usually take Dr. Pepper (or Mr. Pibb) in preference to any cola drink. Second choice is root beer.

My main go to soft drink these days is zero sugar Canada Dry ginger ale. I prefer the zero sugar to their regular ginger ale. The aspartame has a bit of a bitter bite that I really enjoy. (That bitter bite the main reason why in my cola days I always took Coke over Pepsi. And the absence of that bite was the downfall of their disastrous New Coke attempt quite a few years ago.)
 
When I stop at the Costco Food court or a hamburger joint, I usually take Dr. Pepper (or Mr. Pibb) in preference to any cola drink. Second choice is root beer.

My main go to soft drink these days is zero sugar Canada Dry ginger ale. I prefer the zero sugar to their regular ginger ale. The aspartame has a bit of a bitter bite that I really enjoy. (That bitter bite the main reason why in my cola days I always took Coke over Pepsi. And the absence of that bite was the downfall of their disastrous New Coke attempt quite a few years ago.)
I still wonder if the New Coke wasn't just some marketing gimmick designed to get free publicity. Advertising is expensive.
 
Another interesting chart would be the one that shows a collapse in consumption of carbonated sweetened beverages. The flavored waters are surging in popularity at the expense of Coke and other sugary drinks.
 
Everyone New Bern, is in North Carolina.
New Bern, NC is a place for true R&R IMHO.

It was NC's second capital after Bath, NC, and has a colonial governor's palace, as well as a very impressive historic district. Before the War Between the States, it was one of several eastern NC towns that had a coal gas plant that produced coal gas for street lighting and home lighting. There is also a timeshare down the river from the city.
 
I didn’t even know that Mr. Pibb is still around!
I quite like Coke Zero, and much prefer it to Pepsi Zero. If I have to drink diet pop, it really doesn’t matter to me whether it is Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi.

Dori
 
I didn’t even know that Mr. Pibb is still around!
I quite like Coke Zero, and much prefer it to Pepsi Zero. If I have to drink diet pop, it really doesn’t matter to me whether it is Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi.

Dori
Mr Pib is in restaurants/fast food places that are exclusively Coke. It provides a Dr Pepper facsimile.
 
Mr Pib is in restaurants/fast food places that are exclusively Coke. It provides a Dr Pepper facsimile.
Correct.
 
I still wonder if the New Coke wasn't just some marketing gimmick designed to get free publicity. Advertising is expensive.
I don't think so. The New Coke rollout is a very interesting business school case study in how you can do everything right and still come out wrong.

In the 1980s Coca-Cola was concerned because Pepsi was consistently gaining market share. Pepsi was also increasingly being viewed as the cola of choice in youth demographics. Being the preference for an older generation is not a good position to be in when it comes to consumer beverages. So Coke decided they needed to take action to reverse those trends. Before introducing New Coke, they did extensive blind tasting panels, in which people were offered sips of various products, including traditional Coke, Pepsi, and various formulations of New Coke. They brought out New Coke after it was a clear winner.

For Coca-Cola, this was existential, because the market trends and demographics were against them. That's why they didn't consider keeping traditional Coca-Cola on the market. They weren't introducing an alternative; they were creating a replacement.

They were stunned by the blowback. What Coke missed was that what people liked as a small sip in a taste panel was disconnected with the market. Particularly as regards that slightly bitter bite of Coke. In the taste panels, with small sips, the sweeter, less bitter formulation won out. But in real life, consuming larger quantities, many people (such as I) craved that bitter bite.

The lesson to be learned is the importance of totally and completely understanding what your market is and where you stand in the market. You can link this up with the other thread on Red Lobster - understanding that Coke was savvy enough to recognize their folly and react in a timely manner.
 
Back when I drank Coca Cola (I do Sprite now) - if a waiter asked me, "Would Pepsi be okay?" I'd reply, "Damn, there's the 'P' word... Heck, no."
 
It was NC's second capital after Bath, NC, and has a colonial governor's palace, as well as a very impressive historic district. Before the War Between the States, it was one of several eastern NC towns that had a coal gas plant that produced coal gas for street lighting and home lighting. There is also a timeshare down the river from the city.

New Bern was my mothers home town. I have not been in many years but It was a very sleepy place when I was growing up. The thing I remember the most is the large magic water faucet that seemed to be suspended in mid air spewing water. It was in front of a water plant or a water treatment company.
 
I simply do not like Dr. Pepper. The only soda I liked less was MOXIE.....how many of you don't know what THAT is??
 
It was NC's second capital after Bath, NC, and has a colonial governor's palace, as well as a very impressive historic district. Before the War Between the States, it was one of several eastern NC towns that had a coal gas plant that produced coal gas for street lighting and home lighting. There is also a timeshare down the river from the city.
The Neuse River is part of the Intercostal Waterways .
 
Back when I drank Coca Cola (I do Sprite now) - if a waiter asked me, "Would Pepsi be okay?" I'd reply, "Damn, there's the 'P' word... Heck, no."
“We only have Coca Cola products” was always a disappointment back when I drank Pepsi. As a kid our favorite taco stand only had RC (Royal Crown) products, so we had to make do if we wanted something to drink.
 
The Capital One lounge in DEN had a generic diet cola that was quite good. They had it in dispensers but it wasn't Coke or Pepsi or anything I had ever heard of.

Our son just informed me today that it's no longer referred to as DIA, it's DEN! I keep referring to the airport as DIA, and it annoys him. So I will continue to say it. ;)
 
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