Ralph Sir Edward
TUG Member
Ancient truism - You can't outrun a plague. All you do is spread it. . .
(We wiped down all grocery with lysol wipes and washed all our fruits and vegetables too with soap and water).
People need to stop thinking only about themselves and what their rights are. Individual actions affect all of us.
How did the mushrooms, onions, lettuce, cabbage, broccoli, and celery do?
WVBaker: Your comment is both respectful and fair.
One of the central tenets of democracy is adherence to the rule of law. The opposite in anarchy.
As individuals in a democracy we are not completely free to do whatever we wish. I have a tendency to drive fast, but we have laws against that because my driving too fast causes a risk to others. Where exactly the balance lies between the exercise of individual freedoms and the protection of the public is a balancing act managed by our legislators. Different jurisdictions make different choices as illustrated by the distinct difference in gun laws between Canada and the USA.
This relates to the management of the spread of this virus. If public health officials direct people to self isolate/quarantine themselves for a certain period, that is what they are required to do pursuant the relevant public health statutes in their jurisdiction.
Where does this balance lie? We see different answers to that question in different jurisdictions. The Outer Banks in NC were closed to outside visitors by order of their Governor (easier to enforce with one road in and out). POTUS wants everything open by Easter. Different public officials may chose to exercise their powers differently.
Here's one very interesting issue with blanket shelter in place orders.
Think for just a moment about all of those that are deemed "essential" employees. We expect or require that these individuals report to work each day, while others, for the good of society, remain sheltered in their homes. Even those who may work for a business that has not been determined to be essential, but does remain open, in disregard for any "order". And there are those that do. As you can read, some have said they will call and report these individuals to the various authorities. One must assume this is done based solely on sight because, they're certainly not going to approach that person and demand to know why they're not "sheltered in place". Do we expect all those "essential" employees to report to work and then when the end of the day comes, go home and remain there. You know, for the good of society.
Where does this balance lie? We expect these people to leave their house, report to work, service our needs and when the day is over, go home and stay there, for the good of society. We no longer need you or your help so, go home.
Here's one very interesting issue with blanket shelter in place orders.
Think for just a moment about all of those that are deemed "essential" employees. We expect or require that these individuals report to work each day, while others, for the good of society, remain sheltered in their homes. Even those who may work for a business that has not been determined to be essential, but does remain open, in disregard for any "order". And there are those that do. As you can read, some have said they will call and report these individuals to the various authorities. One must assume this is done based solely on sight because, they're certainly not going to approach that person and demand to know why they're not "sheltered in place". Do we expect all those "essential" employees to report to work and then when the end of the day comes, go home and remain there. You know, for the good of society.
Where does this balance lie? We expect these people to leave their house, report to work, service our needs and when the day is over, go home and stay there, for the good of society. We no longer need you or your help so, go home.
And i am, after work i go directly home and sleep. Then take care of things at home eat lunch do some yard work. On the way back to essential work i fill up gas, may stop for a few groceries and report to work. Rinse repeat, all week. I did this for weeks before the Governor shut down the state for the next three weeks. This is what reasonable grown men do to help the country and there fellow man/woman out.We expect those essential employees to behave like everyone else - buy groceries, go to the drug store, Home Depot, etc. then go home and stay home .... until the next day
And i am, after work i go directly home and sleep. Then take care of things at home eat lunch do some yard work. On the way back to essential work i fill up gas, may stop for a few groceries and report to work. Rinse repeat, all week. I did this for weeks before the Governor shut down the state for the next three weeks. This is what reasonable grown men do to help the country and there fellow man/woman out.
This is also what many grown Women are doing every day. Most nurses are female. We should not overlook them.This is what reasonable grown men do to help the country and there fellow man/woman out.
Of course, i was speaking for myself, my Daughter is a nursed aid to home bound seniors.This is also what many grown Women are doing every day. Most nurses are female. We should not overlook them.
Here's one very interesting issue with blanket shelter in place orders.
Think for just a moment about all of those that are deemed "essential" employees. We expect or require that these individuals report to work each day, while others, for the good of society, remain sheltered in their homes. Even those who may work for a business that has not been determined to be essential, but does remain open, in disregard for any "order". And there are those that do. As you can read, some have said they will call and report these individuals to the various authorities. One must assume this is done based solely on sight because, they're certainly not going to approach that person and demand to know why they're not "sheltered in place". Do we expect all those "essential" employees to report to work and then when the end of the day comes, go home and remain there. You know, for the good of society.
Where does this balance lie? We expect these people to leave their house, report to work, service our needs and when the day is over, go home and stay there, for the good of society. We no longer need you or your help so, go home.
That felt like a kick in the stomach. Do I understand correctly that you would like essential employees to do their job in the midst of this health crisis and then, instead of going home to the comfort of their home and family, they can go stay in a hotel room.I would actually prefer the hospitals/fire (any one who comes in contact with a lot of the public) put them up in empty hotels for the time being. Make it safer for everyone.
That felt like a kick in the stomach. Do I understand correctly that you would like essential employees to do their job in the midst of this health crisis and then, instead of going home to the comfort of their home and family, they can go stay in a hotel room.
We were advised somewhat over a week ago to report non-compliance.I wanted to go to our place up in the mountains but they closed fishing , National Parks and all of the State Land until mid April. I get it, they want me to stay home.
I did go to the County Waste Disposal area to toss out a load of yard waste and was actually scolded by the lady at the scales for being non-essential. Even though there was only a few dozen people out there unloading yard waste she was right that it was not essential. I get it, they want me to stay home.
The hardest part of being told to stay home is the staying part, but here I are, rrrrr.
Bill
My Brother is in the opposite situation. He is currently winding up a couple of months at his Florida home and is debating whether to return to his primary residence in rural Pennsylvania...
George