Park Hyatt Beaver Creek - possible to get with points?

[catharsis]

I see lots of references to trading into HKB on this board, and this seems to be a realistic/achievable trade.

I'm trying to confirm whether trading into a 2 bed ski week at the Park Hyatt is ever available via points?

I'm looking at acquiring likely either 2 x gold weeks in Pinon Pointe or something, (likely a 2 bed deluxe) at Highlands. Either would offer enough points to provide the 2200 points required, and to also have other vacation options available

We have limited interest (and many other options given I have a fairly large portfolio with Marriott & Vistana) in Florida so our likely only interest in the Hyatt program would be Northstar, Highlands, Pinon Pointe, and the two Beaver creek properties. I understand that the Aspen property effectively no longer exists and Park City never did.

If I wanted to go to Park Hyatt Beaver Creek in ski season perhaps 1 year in 2 or 3 , and to HKB similarly perhaps 1 years in 3 or 4, what are the possibilities of achieving this via the Hyatt points-system-based internal trading?

 

[Tucsonadventurer]

We have gotten in ,it's fabulous but usually very early ski season more months like early Dec when it's not as busy. Definitely wait list. Similar to Siesta Key there are minimal units owned by Hyatt

 

[SteveinHNL]

Look at the difference in MFs between Highlands and PP. If you are wanting a diamond week, there are quite a few Florida diamond weeks that are going for reasonable prices. I'll bet you could get one for $6K. The MFs are in the middle, higher than PP but lower than Highlands. I'm sure you already know that the best MFs are at Pinon Pointe and Wild Oak, but for this reason, the purchase costs are higher.

 

[catharsis]

Look at the difference in MFs between Highlands and PP. If you are wanting a diamond week, there are quite a few Florida diamond weeks that are going for reasonable prices. I'll bet you could get one for $6K. The MFs are in the middle, higher than PP but lower than Highlands. I'm sure you already know that the best MFs are at Pinon Pointe and Wild Oak, but for this reason, the purchase costs are higher.

I'm avoiding purchasing in Florida as I just consider it inevitable that MFs will explode there following a hurricane at some future time over the lifetime of my ownership. I was aware of Wild Oaks, but Pinon Pointe and Carmel are more in the 'buy where you will use regularly' category more than San Antonio.

I'm trying to understand exactly how the waitlisting works, if a waitlist can be placed up to 18 months out, and one can use your points only 12 months out, how does that work exactly, does one need to use the previous years points to create the waitlist?

In addition, how does the 18 month rule work if one is looking for a 'range of dates' ?

e.g. lets assume I would like to get any 7 day stay in January 2026...

Can I place such a waitlist, or do I need to create one for a specific check-in date?
If one can do a 'range', can one only create the waitlist after the first date in the range or the last date in the range? - does this mean one could in effect create a waitlist 19 months out?

 

[SteveinHNL]

I'm avoiding purchasing in Florida as I just consider it inevitable that MFs will explode there following a hurricane at some future time over the lifetime of my ownership. I was aware of Wild Oaks, but Pinon Pointe and Carmel are more in the 'buy where you will use regularly' category more than San Antonio.

I'm trying to understand exactly how the waitlisting works, if a waitlist can be placed up to 18 months out, and one can use your points only 12 months out, how does that work exactly, does one need to use the previous years points to create the waitlist?

In addition, how does the 18 month rule work if one is looking for a 'range of dates' ?

e.g. lets assume I would like to get any 7 day stay in January 2026...

Can I place such a waitlist, or do I need to create one for a specific check-in date?
If one can do a 'range', can one only create the waitlist after the first date in the range or the last date in the range? - does this mean one could in effect create a waitlist 19 months out?

As of today, you could make a waitlist request for an arrival date from 60 days out to 18 months out, i.e., from September 13, 2024 through January 16th, 2026.

Your waitlist can be for any period in that range, or it can be for one specific week.. So as of today, you couldn't make a list for all of January, 2026, but you could make one for any period until as late as January 16, 2026, which is 18 months from today. Your waitlist request will specify the amount of nights you are looking for, (e.g., 7 nights, 4 nights). You can place multiple waitlist requests.

You don't need points in your account to make a waitlist request. However, if your waitlist request comes up and you don't have the required points, you will just be passed by. I'm not sure if you retain your priority/place in line if that occurs.

One important thing to keep in mind is that unlike Interval requests, which inform you that your request has been matched and give you some time to accept it, these Hyatt waitlist requests are automatically booked and the booking fee ($41) charged to your card, the moment any week/stay matching your request becomes available. You will learn of it by receiving an email informing you that you are booked.

 

[SteveinHNL]

I'm avoiding purchasing in Florida as I just consider it inevitable that MFs will explode there following a hurricane at some future time over the lifetime of my ownership. I was aware of Wild Oaks, but Pinon Pointe and Carmel are more in the 'buy where you will use regularly' category more than San Antonio.

I actually sold my Florida diamond week and purchased at PP for the very same reason.

 

[catharsis]

That's a really clear explanation, many thanks @SteveinHNL
Did I read right elsewhere that basically one could lose one's home resort reservation if points were 'pulled' by a waitlist (which I would regard as an advantage)?

If true, could I in theory just book my own resort every year, make plans to use it, but also have a waitlist placed, and if the waitlist comes in it would 'override' my home resort booking and I'd get the exchange instead, without my risking losing my home resort usage ?

 

[Tucsonadventurer]

Look at the difference in MFs between Highlands and PP. If you are wanting a diamond week, there are quite a few Florida diamond weeks that are going for reasonable prices. I'll bet you could get one for $6K. The MFs are in the middle, higher than PP but lower than Highlands. I'm sure you already know that the best MFs are at Pinon Pointe and Wild Oak, but for this reason, the purchase costs are higher.

Florida is more prone to assessments due to weather. We own Beach House. I'd steer clear

 

[SteveinHNL]

That's a really clear explanation, many thanks @SteveinHNL
Did I read right elsewhere that basically one could lose one's home resort reservation if points were 'pulled' by a waitlist (which I would regard as an advantage)?

If true, could I in theory just book my own resort every year, make plans to use it, but also have a waitlist placed, and if the waitlist comes in it would 'override' my home resort booking and I'd get the exchange instead, without my risking losing my home resort usage ?

If you book your home resort, you don't have any points to pull from. So it's one or the other.

 

[GTLINZ]

If your waitlist hits and there is not sufficient points you get skipped. So if you only have one ownership and you points are tied up, that won't work. If you have points from another ownership it could work. Waitlists can be tricky due to when points are actually available.

You also can wait until the last minute (six months out) to book your home reservation. If your waitlist hits and uses points, you would permanently lose access to your home resort unit for the upcoming use - even if you cancelled what was using points.