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Our Royal Resorts strategy.... we hope...

kenie

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We are not sold on the AI plans for the Royals, but we really enjoy going there and we'll give them a chance to prove themselves.
Our initial plan was take the residual from the Royal Mayan sale and purchase another resale week at the Sands or the Haciendas.
Even if the latest information is true about only getting 25 - 40% of the residual holds true, we'll still come out even or better as we bought resale. I can't see how 90% of owners will vote to extend, especially in light of the AI announcement.
Since the new AI program will be optional for owners, we talked about it and decided to bid on a "B" side eoy ocean-front unit at the Royal Sands that was ending on ebay yesterday. We already own properties that can trade in to the Royals, so it was the ownership aspect that we were looking for.
We won the auction for $201.50 and it currently has a M/F of under $400 per use year. It's a week 39, and we will end up using this as 1 of our exchanges back in..
We decided that this was the most economical way to maintain our ownership.
If the AI program works and they keep it, it will only cost us $200 per year to opt out. As we will go for 2 - 3 weeks at a time, it 's a pretty cheap way to save on the mandatory fees, and will let us take advantage of any other owner discounts.
If it does't work out, we aren't out much.
 

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Ohhhhh I was thinking to bid on it for the same reason, but got sidetracked!

The seller is Seth Nock, and he is one of the best in the industry, great purchase.
 

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wow nice thinking, I did this at Orange lake in Orlando and lucked out because when I purchased the christmas week I knew I would never go on christmas but wanted to use to trade back in. turns out that week gets 58 TPUs!! I can trade in 3 to 4X with my one week! 1 question is the B side good enough to get a 2 bedroom back in the royals?
 

pjrose

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wow nice thinking, I did this at Orange lake in Orlando and lucked out because when I purchased the christmas week I knew I would never go on christmas but wanted to use to trade back in. turns out that week gets 58 TPUs!! I can trade in 3 to 4X with my one week! 1 question is the B side good enough to get a 2 bedroom back in the royals?

You can luck out, but it's not guaranteed. You need to trade in something with a full kitchen to get the master suite side or the two bedroom. (A Pelican - now Simpson Bay - Studio-sleeps-four with full kitchen has netted us two-bedrooms at Royals quite a few times.)
 

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You can luck out, but it's not guaranteed. You need to trade in something with a full kitchen to get the master suite side or the two bedroom. (A Pelican - now Simpson Bay - Studio-sleeps-four with full kitchen has netted us two-bedrooms at Royals quite a few times.)

my Foxrun week has always come through for me if I booked in advance otherwise I have rented, The only reason I have the foxrun was to trade into th RR but now if they stick with the AI it will be of no good to me because I refuse to do AI's. ill be looking to buy a RR week, guess ill be shopping ebay for a deal. Foxrun was such a great trader into the RR, it was good while it lasted
 

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Check out redweek.com, there is a Royal Sands suite side only odd year that would fit your needs.
 

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What kind of MF's can you expect to pay in a lockoff at the Sands? Above I read around $400 and I also saw one for about $640, im just trying to get an idea what the MF can range from?
 

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wow nice thinking, I did this at Orange lake in Orlando and lucked out because when I purchased the christmas week I knew I would never go on christmas but wanted to use to trade back in. turns out that week gets 58 TPUs!! I can trade in 3 to 4X with my one week! 1 question is the B side good enough to get a 2 bedroom back in the royals?

OP will be using something else to trade in, I believe. Just wants the Royal ownership to avoid AI fee.

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What kind of MF's can you expect to pay in a lockoff at the Sands? Above I read around $400 and I also saw one for about $640, im just trying to get an idea what the MF can range from?

OP states in original post that MF are under $400 for the unit.

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What kind of MF's can you expect to pay in a lockoff at the Sands? Above I read around $400 and I also saw one for about $640, im just trying to get an idea what the MF can range from?

Based on the listing, the m/f for the B side is 362 per use year.
The m/f of $640 is for a 1 bedroom.
If you were looking at the ad on Redweek, they have the units mixed up and are calling a 1 bdr a lockoff and the lockoff, a 1 bdr.

As of now, and in the past, there is a lot of availability at the Royals within the 45 day window in the time of year that we want, so we can use the lock-off to exchange in for a 1 or 2 bdrm. We will use one of our other properties to trade for 2 or 3 weeks and fill the final week in the last 45 days.
If that doesn't work we will just write off the $181 per year as part of the cost of staying at the Royals.
If we could have found a 1 bdr for the time frame we want, we would have gone that route, but the eoy is the least expensive option and it should give some protection from rising fees..
On a side note, I almost bought a Royal Haciendas week by accident today.
I was high bidder when I won the Sands week and sadly had to hope that someone else wanted it more.... :eek:
I really have to stay away from Ebay :ponder:
 

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On a side note, I almost bought a Royal Haciendas week by accident today.
I was high bidder when I won the Sands week and sadly had to hope that someone else wanted it more.... :eek:
I really have to stay away from Ebay :ponder:

Ha Ha..... That was me that got you off the hook!! I bid $999.00 for it early in the morning and was out bid at 1pm, it went for just about $1250.00. I was on the fence about it but figured what the hell.. Im sort of glad I lost it as I want a lock off. I know the feeling about staying away from ebay!
 
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