One in four and bonus and last call weeks

[Linda74]

I am wondering if the 1 in 4 rule applies when purchasing a week on last call or a bonus vacation...especially with resorts such as Trade Winds Cruise Club

 

[alanmj]

Linda,

The 1 in 4 rules are resort rules, not RCI rules, and are not the same for each resort.

With regard to TWCC, the statement made in the blurb when trying to book a week is:

1 IN 4 YEAR RULE ENFORCED. GUESTS CANNOT RETURN TO ANY OTHER TREADEWIND RESORT WITHIN 4 YEARS (5205, 5206, 6068, 6850). NO MULTIPLE WEEK EXCHANGES. POLICIES APPLY TO BONUS/RENTALS TOO.

So no matter how you get a TWCC week, you can only go once every four years, and that is to all TWCC bases, not just the one you previously sailed out of.

Alan

 

[AKE]

The 1 in 4 rules are due to an agreement between RCI and the resorts (i.e. the resorts want to have as many people through as possible so that they get more potential buyers AND if someone can always exchange to a resort every year then why would they bother buying). If you use other exchange companies (e.g. SFX) there are no 1 in 4 rules. Re the bonus weeks, etc. I was told by an RCI guide that the 1 in 4 rule did not apply and from my exchange / last minute getaway purchases, etc. to date it has been true (BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS THE EXCEPTIONS - ).

 

[rickandcindy23]

If those are resort rules and not RCI rules,

why does II have no such 1 in 4 policies in place for resorts? I haven't seen any that I have been aware of. I could be wrong. Perhaps some of you have seen this with II? Please enlighten me, as I believe RCI limits use, not the resorts. I guess they want to spread the good resorts as thinly as possible?

 

[JEFF H]

why does II have no such 1 in 4 policies in place for resorts? I haven't seen any that I have been aware of. I could be wrong. Perhaps some of you have seen this with II? Please enlighten me, as I believe RCI limits use, not the resorts. I guess they want to spread the good resorts as thinly as possible?

Its RCI fault that 1 in 4 rules are allowed.
Its the Resorts however that want the 1 in 4 rules for the reasons stated above.
RCI enables it by allowing the the rules to exist in the specific resorts affiliation contract.

Interval Does not currently allow resorts to impose 1 in 4 type rules in there affiliation contracts.

A timeshare owner is suppose to have the right to let anyone of there choosing use there week in there place.
When a owner deposits the week with a exchange company the exchange company then has the right to let whoever they choose use the week.
This is why the 1 in 4 does not apply to any of the independent exchange companies or owner direct trades.
Only RCI allows the resort developers to infringe on owners rights in this way.
This can hurt owners trade power of 1 in 4 resorts as it keeps the demand artifically low by blocking members that would otherwise like to exchange in to the resort and cause its demand to increase.

owners however can benefit because the 1 in 4 rules does not apply to owners of the resort and makes it easy for them to exchange any of there RCI weeks back into the resort.

What were starting to see now is some developers setting ownership/membership rules that don't allow owners to deposit weeks with independant exchange companies.
Im personally against any policies like this and 1 in 4 that limit or take away The basic rights of timeshare owners.

 

[Madge]

why does II have no such 1 in 4 policies in place for resorts? I haven't seen any that I have been aware of. I could be wrong. Perhaps some of you have seen this with II? Please enlighten me, as I believe RCI limits use, not the resorts. I guess they want to spread the good resorts as thinly as possible?

rickandcindy23,

I cannot answer questions on behalf of I.I.

RCI honors resorts' requests to limit the number of visits in four years or visits within a geographical area. There would be no benefit to RCI in doing this; it is done for resorts to increase their exposure to new audiences of potential purchasers.

 

[Madge]

I am wondering if the 1 in 4 rule applies when purchasing a week on last call or a bonus vacation...especially with resorts such as Trade Winds Cruise Club

Linda74,

Most resorts do not enforce the one-in-four rule for Extra Vacations or Last Call. However, review information online or ask a Guide to verify this if you're not sure. There are a few resorts that do enforce it for all vacations - Mayan Resorts are one example.

 

[CaliDave]

RCI honors resorts' requests to limit the number of visits in four years or visits within a geographical area. There would be no benefit to RCI in doing this; it is done for resorts to increase their exposure to new audiences of potential purchasers.

I know some resorts that have 1-4 that have been long sold out.

What do you think of Jeff's statement that 1-4 effects trade power? I asked about this on the old Tug and you were going to get back to me.. but it was around the time we switched.

I agree with Jeff, it seems that the demand would be kept artifically low, since many exchangers cannot exchange back in?

 

[Madge]

Calidave,

If you will provide an example of a sold-out resort that enforces the one-in-four rule, I will check with our resort liaison for that property. I can't think of a non sales-related reason that a resort would request the one-in-four rule.

I will do some checking on the idea of reduced demand/Trading Power resulting from the one-in-four restriction. That's a new question for me.

 

[CaliDave]

Calidave,

If you will provide an example of a sold-out resort that enforces the one-in-four rule, I will check with our resort liaison for that property. I can't think of a non sales-related reason that a resort would request the one-in-four rule.

Coronado Beach Resort 2885

 

[rickandcindy23]

Why does SFX not have to enforce the one-in-four rule

If the resort really wants this, you would think they would force SFX to do the same.

I am very familiar with II resorts, especially the Marriotts, and have never seen a one-in-four rule. Marriott actively sells all the time, much the same as Orange Lake that may never sell out and Hilton resorts which will never sell out. Hilton can sell at any of their resorts for whatever new location they care to sell at the time. Basically, many resorts will be untouchable three out of four years.

 

[Madge]

Calidave,

If you will provide an example of a sold-out resort that enforces the one-in-four rule, I will check with our resort liaison for that property. I can't think of a non sales-related reason that a resort would request the one-in-four rule.

I will do some checking on the idea of reduced demand/Trading Power resulting from the one-in-four restriction. That's a new question for me.

Calidave,

According to our Inventory Management staff, we monitor the utilization of resorts that enforce the one-in-four rule to ensure that there are no negative impacts to Trading Power.

 

[Madge]

Coronado Beach Resort 2885

CaliDave,

Coronado Beach Resort 2885 is part of the Grand Pacific Resort group. This group as a whole enforces a one-in-four rule. A visit to one of these resorts (1285, 3987, 1379, 5362, 2885, 3007 and 3008) precludes another visit to any of the others in the same four-year period.