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OFFICIAL THREAD: VSE/Starwood 2016 maintenance fees

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Just received my MF statement for an annual Virgin Grand 3-br Pool Villa at Westin St. John (WSJ).

2015 MF was $2841.34
2016 MF is $2798.98

That's a decrease of $41.99 or 1.5%.
 

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Just received my MF statement for an annual Bay Vista 3-br at Westin St. John (WSJ).

2015 MF was $2197.88 + $235.17 (property tax) = $2433.05
2016 MF is $2234.43 + $271.50 (property tax) = $2505.93

That's an increase of $36.55 or 1.7% in base maintenance fees, plus an increase of $36.33 or 15.4% in property taxes, for a total increase of $72.88 or 3.0%.
 

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Maintenance Fee(s) $ 985.41
Tax - If Applicable $ 166.35

Total (2016) $ 1,151.76

Don't have 2015 fees handy and MSC said E-Statement unavailable currently :(... but difference of this year's and last year's (include SVN) is +$30.14. So my guess is that it has gone up about 3%.
 

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Question WKORV fees

I seem to recall in years past that there was a difference in fees between middle and corner OF units, or maybe between event vs. nonevent OF units. Am I imagining things? This year the fees are the same for middle OF nonevent week and corner OF event week--$3276.90 according to Starwood's operator.
 

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The MFs for WKORV and WKORV are not dependent on time of year.
There are 3 MF types for WKORV - 2Bd LO Deluxe, 2Bd LO Premium, and 1 Bd Premium.
There is only 1 type for WKORVN - 2Bd LO.
 

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Thanks. What is the difference between the LO Deluxe and the LO Premium?
 

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Thanks. What is the difference between the LO Deluxe and the LO Premium?

Size and layout. Deluxe villas are on corners of Buildings, and more square than rectangle. Deluxe also have windows on side giving great panoramic views and better light inside.
 

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I seem to recall in years past that there was a difference in fees between middle and corner OF units, or maybe between event vs. nonevent OF units. Am I imagining things? This year the fees are the same for middle OF nonevent week and corner OF event week--$3276.90 according to Starwood's operator.

2016 OFC fee is $2275.20, same as the number in the database for 2 bedroom LO.
 

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2016 OFC fee is $2275.20, same as the number in the database for 2 bedroom LO.

Correct - even though the OFC has much greater Total square footage that the standard premium. See other thread.
 

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$2275 is more like it for an OFC unit. Starwood quoted me the $3276. today, which is why I questioned it. Thanks.
 

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$2275 is more like it for an OFC unit. Starwood quoted me the $3276. today, which is why I questioned it. Thanks.

$3267USD is the MF amount for a 2BR L/O annual WKORV Deluxe (corner) unit, regardless of view category, including the SVN fee and Hawaii taxes.
 

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Speaking of OF WKORV/N - I thought the SOs were getting increased but recent SVN chart still lists at 148.1K?
 

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Looks like that happens in 2017. When I look at my 'Staroptions Balances' for 2016, OF is allocated 148,100 per week, but for 2017 it goes up to 176,700 per week.
 

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Looks like that happens in 2017. When I look at my 'Staroptions Balances' for 2016, OF is allocated 148,100 per week, but for 2017 it goes up to 176,700 per week.

You can see your 2017 SO Balance? Where? I only see my 2016 balance.
 

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When I log in to my SVN account & scroll down a bit there is a tab for 'Account Balances'. When I click on 'details', it comes up with a listing of my unused staroptions balances for 2015, 2016, and 2017.
 

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When I log in to my SVN account & scroll down a bit there is a tab for 'Account Balances'. When I click on 'details', it comes up with a listing of my unused staroptions balances for 2015, 2016, and 2017.

Thanks - missed this on new dashboard - learn something new everyday.
Wow! 678,200 SOs, and I only have 3 weeks of vacation in 2017 - or maybe not... ;)
 

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Westin Mission Hills - 2Br Lockoff (yearly)

Maintenance - $1803.91 (No ARDA)

Included in fee:

VO assessment - $1275.89
Condo common assessment - $175.31
Master association assessment - $212.71
SVN membership fee - $140.00

Seems to always go up (not sure how much vs. last year), not really happy about it but not much we can do.
 

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srfndoc - did you add your info to the database, in the first post?
 

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Hey all,

I've made the following updates to the database. Thanks to John (OKPACIFIC) for all the information on the properties.

I added a bunch of rules/logics to account for some of the new additions and did some code cleanup (still need to do some more, but will do when I have more time).

If you encounter any issues, let me know ASAP.

Westin St. John Resort Villas
  • Added Sunset Bay Phase
  • Updated Coral Vista + Sunset Bay to have a Season

Westin Kaanapali Ocean Resort Villas Nanea
  • Added Property + View Type Field
  • 1 Bedroom - Resort
  • 2 Bedroom - Resort or Ocean Front
  • 3 Bedroom - Ocean Front
Thanks,
Nico
 

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Thanks, Nico! :hi:
 

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WKORV 1BR Premium MFs ridiculous high?

First, Thanks hypnotiq for maintaining this great database.
I am looking to buy a 1BR Premium ocean view, but found the MFs is pretty high at $1,911, whereas 2BR Premium lock-off is only $2,275? That doesn't make sense. Can anyone explain to me why?
 

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First, Thanks hypnotiq for maintaining this great database.
I am looking to buy a 1BR Premium ocean view, but found the MFs is pretty high at $1,911, whereas 2BR Premium lock-off is only $2,275? That doesn't make sense. Can anyone explain to me why?

No. It is the way it is per CCRS. The 1Bd has high MF/sqft and MF/SO. Penalty for not wanting to deal with studio.
 
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