Obtaining Disney with Wyndham

[Sandy VDH]

If you have Plus Partner on your Wyndham Account you can access Disney via the RCI Nightly Stays option. I just confirmed that this is possible. Much to the surprise of the VC that I spoke to.

Trading via RCI Weeks deposits is proving to be problematic, but that is not a surprise as many of us have noticed Wyndham's trade power diminish except of internal trade preferences. It appears to have just average trading power.

This will make the Plus Partner option much more valuable to have, because you can get Disney at the fixed price grid, and a 2 BR will be 154,000 Wyndham points. What a deal, as these are up to 118,000 RCI points for the same week.

 

[mgriff75]

Where does the Nightly Stay inventory come from? I found the Disney resorts in Extra Vacations, but not in the regular directory. Do the Nightly Inventory and the extra vacation inventory come from the same place. Also, I bought all my Wyndham points resale, so no plus partners. Can you add just plus partners? How much does it cost?

Thanks,

Matthew

 

[Sandy VDH]

Where does the Nightly Stay inventory come from? I found the Disney resorts in Extra Vacations, but not in the regular directory. Do the Nightly Inventory and the extra vacation inventory come from the same place. Also, I bought all my Wyndham points resale, so no plus partners. Can you add just plus partners? How much does it cost?

Thanks,

Matthew

Nightly Stay is basically RCI Points Inventory. Extra Vacation is different inventory from RCI Points.

I do not know the cost of just adding plus partners, or even if you can just add it with out any additional purchase.

 

[bnoble]

I vaguely recall that the enrollment cost is comparable to convert a single fixed week---so around $2400 or so. If you can get RCI Points at $0.01/pt through other means, you'd need to do at least 7-8 exchanges for peak season 2BR units to recoup that cost.

The Primer should have more details. I would imagine that most sales offices will try to get you to buy more points to enroll---it may take some doing.

 

[mgriff75]

It might be worth it to access DVC on a regular basis, but with the chance that DVC will switch back to II, I don't think I am going to take the gamble.

Matthew

 

[janej]

This will make the Plus Partner option much more valuable to have, because you can get Disney at the fixed price grid, and a 2 BR will be 154,000 Wyndham points. What a deal, as these are up to 118,000 RCI points for the same week.

That does sound really good. How does the Plus Partner option work? Is there a formula to convert FF points to RCI points?

 

[Sandy VDH]

That does sound really good. How does the Plus Partner option work? Is there a formula to convert FF points to RCI points?

Partner Plus offers a fixed point amount for a transaction. It does not convert Wyndham points to RCI points. If you have Partner Plus you can obtain an exchange in RCI Nightly for the fixed Wyndham Point amound, regardless of how many point the exchange would be in RCI Points. So some transactions are great deals, some are average.

The fixed grid is as follows in Wyndham points, based on size and season, for a full 7 night stay:

Studio RED 70K, WHITE 42K, BLUE 28K
1BR RED 105K, WHITE 77K, BLUE 63K
2BR RED 154K, WHITE 126K, BLUE 77K
3BR RED 254K, WHITE 189K, BLUE 154K

So depending on what size and season you book as an exchange the corresponding points are removed from your account.

 

[janej]

Thanks a lot for the information, Sandy! Is RCI nightly a term that is specific to FF Partner Plus?

My personal formula to convert my FF points and RCI points is 2 to 1 based on MF. So I think the fixed point grid comes pretty close to RCI points reservation most of the time. Disney seems to be a better value with fixed points grid. But I don't think I'd pay to get on the program just for Disney. They change the rules so often. The first thing that comes to mind is that they can make Disney resort 1-in-4 at any time.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Thanks a lot for the information, Sandy! Is RCI nightly a term that is specific to FF Partner Plus?

My personal formula to convert my FF points and RCI points is 2 to 1 based on MF. So I think the fixed point grid comes pretty close to RCI points reservation most of the time. Disney seems to be a better value with fixed points grid. But I don't think I'd pay to get on the program just for Disney. They change the rules so often. The first thing that comes to mind is that they can make Disney resort 1-in-4 at any time.

Who changes rules often? Wyndham is the only company that does that. :rofl: That would be the reason not to buy Wyndham points.

RCI Points' transactions are exempt from the 1-in-4 rule. They would really shake things up at RCI if they stopped that exemption for RCI points. I am doubting that will happen. The first thing RCI will probably do is discontinue PFD completely, since it is one way many of us can get the points we need to get into the Disney resorts.

 

[Sandy VDH]

Thanks a lot for the information, Sandy! Is RCI nightly a term that is specific to FF Partner Plus?

Yes I believe that it is specific to Wyndham.

 

[janej]

RCI Points' transactions are exempt from the 1-in-4 rule. They would really shake things up at RCI if they stopped that exemption for RCI points.

That is really cool. I heard it somewhere but never really looked into it. I just pulled Smuggler's notch online using RCI points and found that there is no mentioning of 1-in-4. We went there after Xmas 07. I am pretty sure the rule was there then. It's nice for them to make some good changes sometimes.

 

[bnoble]

As I understand it, though, that's not true for Weeks-with-Points reservations. If you reserve Weeks inventory, you are subject to any 1-in-N rules, even if you are using Points to book it.

 

[janej]

As I understand it, though, that's not true for Weeks-with-Points reservations. If you reserve Weeks inventory, you are subject to any 1-in-N rules, even if you are using Points to book it.

I understand that. But I just took another look at Smuggler's availability and found these in fine prints

"**THE 1 IN 4 RULE IS STRICKLY ENFORCED DURING THE FOLLOWING WEEKS: 1-12, 24-34, AND 51-52.** WEEKS 13-23 AND 35-50 YOU MAY BOOK AS OFTEN AS YOU LIKE. THE 1 IN 4 RULE DOES NOT APPLY TO 7576 OWNERS."

This is using Standard Points reservation. Did I miss anything? Where does it say points reservations are excluded from 1-in-n?