Noobie...Westin Mission Hills & misc. questions

[duke]

Requalify has change quite a bit. You now need EY with Ey purchase and the purchase price is at least $20K.

Have you confirmed this is true?

DavidandRobin did it a few months ago and gave a detailed step by step how and where they did it.

THE ACTUAL TRUTH IS: You have to be ready to make a deal to get a deal with requalification. Phone calls and questions don't work. You must buy the resale first....Get it transferred....Sit down at a SVO sales office and be ready to purchase a developer unit to requalify.

With regard to WMH reservations for the Tennis Tournament: Reservations are easy. There are no fixed weeks. Lots of Villas are available in the 12 - 8 month window. I've even made reservations after 8 months.

WMH is a great resort and the resale price for Platinum 2 br L/O is quite reasonable. And, when you requalify you get 148,100 StarOptions which is the same as Maui!

 

[oneohana]

Requalify has change quite a bit. You now need EY with Ey purchase and the purchase price is at least $20K. You may be better off buying Westin Kierland unless you really want to spend another $20K for requalification.

I have heard that $20K number also. $40K for requalifing Hawaii and Carribean resorts.

 

[myip]

Have you confirmed this is true?

DavidandRobin did it a few months ago and gave a detailed step by step how and where they did it.

THE ACTUAL TRUTH IS: You have to be ready to make a deal to get a deal with requalification. Phone calls and questions don't work. You must buy the resale first....Get it transferred....Sit down at a SVO sales office and be ready to purchase a developer unit to requalify.

With regard to WMH reservations for the Tennis Tournament: Reservations are easy. There are no fixed weeks. Lots of Villas are available in the 12 - 8 month window. I've even made reservations after 8 months.

WMH is a great resort and the resale price for Platinum 2 br L/O is quite reasonable. And, when you requalify you get 148,100 StarOptions which is the same as Maui!

Not 100%sure but it is in
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24046&page=4

 

[stevens397]

Still waiting to hear if anyone has had success trading WMH through II or another exchange company.

Do you think it would be better to start a new thread with the title "Anyone had success trading Mission Hills outside SVN?"

 

[DavidnRobin]

THE ACTUAL TRUTH IS: You have to be ready to make a deal to get a deal with requalification. Phone calls and questions don't work. You must buy the resale first....Get it transferred....Sit down at a SVO sales office and be ready to purchase a developer unit to requalify.

Duke is absolutely correct about this. The best negotiation approach is not to show your hand. We simply went to an Owners Update at WKV - armed with the requal knowledge from TUG - and then worked out a deal. You will not know if the rules have changed until you actually go thru the process (ours was 4+ hrs of back-forth) - maybe they had a quota to fill - maybe it was that we were buying WPORV and requalifying an OF Dlx WLORV unit - maybe they knew that the change in Elite benefits was coming - or maybe we just got in under the 'new' rules. Hard to say - all I was interested in was we wanted - and were ready to walk away with anything less (and they were aware of this).

Sorry to have a thread tangent...

The point being is not to rely on a requal (if that is what you intend to do) in buying resale. Go ahead and plan around it if this is what you want to do in the future, but buy the TS-type and location that best fits your vacation needs. If SVO WMH resale is that - then go for it - just make sure you do your research first (as you are).

 

[Fredm]

Still waiting to hear if anyone has had success trading WMH through II or another exchange company.

Do you think it would be better to start a new thread with the title "Anyone had success trading Mission Hills outside SVN?"

Check out this link:
http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50954

Actually great success through I.I. with WMH trades.

Fredm

 

[TUG Talker]

This is all pretty fascinating, even the "off-topic" stuff, so don't hold back. I read the thread that Fredm posted, and I guess it still isn't confirmed if/how Jerseygirl's II request is affected by Starwood.

 

[LisaRex]

I just want to clarify one thing:

If you buy resale at WMH and don't try to requalify it, then YOU get to deposit the villa you bought at the season you bought into II, correct? I thought that this was the case, but now I'm not so sure.

 

[pointsjunkie]

i bought small 1 br at sdo foating 1-52 and i put in II and starwood traded a large 1 br week 52..i got a great trade with it . a 2 br in lake tahoe for next summer.i think starwood still has the control over the unit they trade even if you do not belong to the svn.

 

[TUG Talker]

i bought small 1 br at sdo foating 1-52 and i put in II and starwood traded a large 1 br week 52..i got a great trade with it . a 2 br in lake tahoe for next summer.i think starwood still has the control over the unit they trade even if you do not belong to the svn.

That's what I thought was happening, based on some of the posts I've seen. Issue is, sounds like it's luck of the draw, what if they had substituted a worse property/week, which it seems like could as easily happen...

Can Starwood mess w/trades in systems like SFX (I think that's what it's called) as well as II?

 

[pointsjunkie]

if someone owns at wkv can starwood use another resort to trade in II ?

 

[oneohana]

if someone owns at wkv can starwood use another resort to trade in II ?

Yes, if it is in SVN, *wood controls the week and resort it deposits. There are exceptions where others have gotten a week deposited at the resort they own.

 

[TUG Talker]

It's funny...the sales rep in our presentation said that "only 1.8% of starwood owners use II to trade, the rest trade via SVN."

Seems unlikely (that 1.8% number), but I can see that many owners would avoid using II just because of the "interference" of Starwood in those trades.

 

[stevens397]

1. Thanks Fred - you're an amazing source of information and it's wonderful how generous you are with it.

2. San Francisco Exchange looks better and better every day!

 

[Fredm]

1. Thanks Fred - you're an amazing source of information and it's wonderful how generous you are with it.

2. San Francisco Exchange looks better and better every day!

stevens397.

Happy to do it. Thank you for saying so!

SFX is indeed an attractive alternative.
The understandable confusion, which begs an answer, is why can an owner control their reservation by depositing with SFX, but not I.I. ? (assuming the owner has an independent membership with I.I. and is not an SVN Member.)

Fred