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an annual timeshare with a MF as low as 200/year is pretty unheard of (not that it doesn't exist somewhere im sure...but ive not seen anything close to that in quite some time). most mf's that low involve bi or triannual ownership.


I dont think you will have any success negotiating with westgate a clause that requires them to buy back your ownership...in fact we have never heard of such a thing...ever.

but again..anything is possible. I would not suggest relying on that as a basis to defend paying full price. fact is regardless of you buying resale or retail....you are nearly always in the same boat when it comes down to selling your timeshare on the resale market
 

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sorry, going back to reading your first post. you dont actually own a westgate property...you bought into a vacation club and the dues are $200/mo

you cant compare this 1 for 1 to annual maintenance fees, because you arent including the cost to you to actually stay in any resorts...booking thru your vacation club ownership isnt free. you claim it costs you 500 each time you rent somewhere...thus now your "comparable" maintenance fee is up to 700 right off the bat.

now factor in the fact you paid $5000 to buy in 4 years ago...(1250/year) and we are up to nearly 2000/yr

there are very very few westgate mfs that are anywhere near 2k a year.
 

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compare that to the vacation villas ad in the marketplace asking $1....and $499/yr maint fees. it means you could own that for 10 years before you would even cover the initial cost you paid to buy into the vacation club itself.

(although admittedly it appears most WG ownerships mf seem to be in the 800 range, vs the 500 range)
 

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also please dont consider my posts as trying to convince you to buy into westgate!

im merely trying to correct your math when comparing ownership to a vacation club.
 

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I think I'll take your advice. I'm going to join Tuggs and do a lot of research before I do anything. Thanks.
Welcome to Tug. Joining tug and taking your time to learn is the best thing you can do. I have purchased many timeshares resale. There are many great resale deals out there. Be patient, learn and you will find something great.
 

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The reason I am considering buying directly from Westgate is because of the $5,000.00 equity that I already paid for with my vacation club which brings the timeshare cost down to just below $8,000. Its an Elite membership which gives me a trade value of other Elite properties through Interval. I just talked to Interval on the phone and found that besides the low $189.00 exchange fee for a 1 BR Elite rental, I could get an additional room for only $79.00. In fact as many rooms as I want at 79.00 each, although I'm thinking that's got to be subject to availability.
Most exchanges on Interval are $189, some are even less if you exchange within the same brand.

The $79 additional room is not a separate unit, its a new charge they added to upgrade from a one bedroom to a two bedroom. Once again, everyone pays the upgrade charges now. Before the new upgrade fee it was possible to exchange from a studio all the way up to 3 bedroom for just the exchange fee.

There is no way you will get unlimited extra rooms for just $79.


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Most exchanges on Interval are $189, some are even less if you exchange within the same brand.

The $79 additional room is not a separate unit, its a new charge they added to upgrade from a one bedroom to a two bedroom. Once again, everyone pays the upgrade charges now. Before the new upgrade fee it was possible to exchange from a studio all the way up to 3 bedroom for just the exchange fee.

There is no way you will get unlimited extra rooms for just $79.


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Yes, I know. I said $79.00 for each extra room. I think thats still a good deal.
 

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Welcome to Tug. Joining tug and taking your time to learn is the best thing you can do.
Thank you!

I have purchased many timeshares resale. There are many great resale deals out there. Be patient, learn and you will find something great.
Thats something I don't understand. I've read about people buying multiple timeshares. That means you have multiple maintenance fees too, right? Is that really cost effective?
 

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an annual timeshare with a MF as low as 200/year is pretty unheard of (not that it doesn't exist somewhere im sure...but ive not seen anything close to that in quite some time). most mf's that low involve bi or triannual ownership.
Thats interesting. I was told by Westgate that the MF in Vegas are lower because they don't have a lot of natural disasters like Florida.

I dont think you will have any success negotiating with westgate a clause that requires them to buy back your ownership...in fact we have never heard of such a thing...ever.
Thats what makes me fearful of buying a timeshare from the developer or someone else. Doesn't matter who you buy it from, if you can't get rid of it, then you're stuck with those MF.

again..anything is possible. I would not suggest relying on that as a basis to defend paying full price. fact is regardless of you buying resale or retail....you are nearly always in the same boat when it comes down to selling your timeshare on the resale market
Somehow low MF are more palatable to me than paying less upfront with higher MF, because the upfront price gets paid off while the MF last forever. I also haven't seen one WG Casino timeshare for sale on this website. Probably because they are so new. There is only one review for the casino as well and its positive.
 

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yes, buying a separate timeshare mostly means you have additional maintenance fees to go along with it.

if you know what you are buying, spending $1 to purchase a timeshare with a maintenance fee that allows you to vacation where you want to go for at or under the normal rental price allows owners to save on every vacation.

just like if you were to purchase that $1 westgate on the marketplace with the maint fee of $499. it'd cost you 499 to stay there each year (not counting mf increases of course)...and you could deposit it and or enjoy all the exchange benefits you mention above
 

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Somehow low MF are more palatable to me than paying less upfront with higher MF, because the upfront price gets paid off while the MF last forever. I also haven't seen one WG Casino timeshare for sale on this website. Probably because they are so new. There is only one review for the casino as well and its positive.

if you can truly purchase a timeshare you can use every year for a 200 annual MF, thats a great reason to buy from the developer.

personally, id be skeptical I was missing something hugely important...like that MF is every quarter...or you only got to use the interval every other or 3rd year etc.

while there are situations where buying from the developer affords you lower maint fees, ive never seen cases where its staggeringly different like this (200 vs 500 or 800/yr).


for the most part, people rarely complain about westgate resorts themselves, Ive personally stayed at multiple ones and found them always nice and clean and would be happy to stay in them again. the treatment of their owners however and difficulty of even giving them away when its time to end your ownership, leaves a great deal to be desired!

those two items are mutually exclusive however, and one should not be used to compare the other as they are not related in any way. folks can absolutely HATE westgate for their shady practices and treatement of owners...and still have great vacations while at the resorts.
 

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if you can truly purchase a timeshare you can use every year for a 200 annual MF, thats a great reason to buy from the developer.
No, no. I worded that badly. My MF are every other year at 419.00. I keep saying 200 per year because I initially used it as a comparison to what I'm paying currently as a vacation club member. Sorry for the confusion. I don't really want to pay more than 200 per year in MF. Currently, under my vacation plan, I don't even renew right away. I let a few months lapse until I'm ready to take my next vacation.

personally, id be skeptical I was missing something hugely important...like that MF is every quarter...or you only got to use the interval every other or 3rd year etc.
I can exchange every other year, but I can use the getaways whenever I want.
 

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So, my original advice was as follows: stop and think this out; you can make a decision later.

Let me make an observation here. Just as in a similar earlier post, this seems like more of a commercial ad for Westgate timeshares / vacation club, then it really does a question about" should I buy or what should I buy."

Kathy, if you can spend just $200 a year and get an unlimited number of timeshare weeks for $79 or even $159, then maybe we should all move to Vegas and live in the Westgate. Because, at $150 a week it sounds like an extremely cheap rent for a furnished one bedroom utilities paid housekeeping included, secure apartment. As the old saying goes, if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.

I'm delighted to hear that you're so pleased with your Westgate purchase, but I think the truth lies in the lack of availability and other undisclosed or misunderstood fees that plague these type of timeshare/vacation club opportunities. My friends who recently purchased a Mexican vacation club package, similar to the one you're describing, discovered upon careful analysis of the package they bought, I could've had the exact same thing without paying the $5000 entry fee , or more in their case . I've said it before, the devil is in the details…

As you pointed out in the paragraphs and posts above, buying a timeshare is not a light or quickly undertaken obligation. One should fully understand all of the fees and ongoing commitments that accompany the purchase of any timeshare or vacation club etc...

As a famous actor in a movie once said, "show me the money…" When I see a contract document that clearly outlines all of the obligations commitments fees opportunities availabilities etc of owning such a vacation club or timeshare with that kind of low or no cost fees and unlimited availability, then I'll consider endorsing it. But I absolutely positively would not endorse Westgate to anyone i knew considering a purchase in any type of vacation activity. That's just one man's opinion, but I'm certain they'll be many others on here that would be glad to give their opinion of Westgate as well.

There is ample evidence on the Internet and in court documents showing the kind of company that Westgate is. I suggest that most of it is not very flattering

I'm sorry if my tone sounds negative, I don't want anyone to be confused by the discussion in this thread and suddenly think Westgate is a paragon of virtue and a bargain to be had if you only hurry down and sign now.

I sincerely hope that your ownership continues to please you and provide you with lots of ample opportunities in the future. I Strongly encourage you again to take time to review the actual contract language and research the availability that you claim is waiting for you before spending your hard-earned cash and financing a luxury purchase that shouldn't be financed at all, IMHO

Again, much luck to you, welcome to TUG, research Westgate a bit more before signing any (more) contracts.



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Thats something I don't understand. I've read about people buying multiple timeshares. That means you have multiple maintenance fees too, right? Is that really cost effective?
It depends on what you buy. My least expensive timeshare puts me on Myrtle Beach, beachfront when it's warm, for a maintenance fee of $457 for a full week. To me this is as cost effective as it can be. Never could I get an equivalent rental for that price. Another example is a week I own in old key west. Where the maintence is $810 for a full week, much higher then my other example, to rent a hotel at the time I own would cost me $400 a night.
 

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Thats what makes me fearful of buying a timeshare from the developer or someone else. Doesn't matter who you buy it from, if you can't get rid of it, then you're stuck with those .
That is why it is important to take your time and learn. If you buy a timeshare that is in a high demand area in prime time, that others want too, you will have an easier time being able to pass it on when you no longer want to use it.
 
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I seriously doubt that Westgate or any major timeshare company will let you negotiate contract terms and conditions on a normal sale. You will use their standard form contract, the one that has been approved by company lawyers. No substantive changes will be allowed.
 

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Let me make an observation here. Just as in a similar earlier post, this seems like more of a commercial ad for Westgate timeshares / vacation club, then it really does a question about" should I buy or what should I buy."
I have enjoyed my vacation club and I'm dazzled by the timeshare. I have been going back and forth between being dazzled and telling my son to shoot me if I ever go to another timeshare presentation. I've been having nothing but Hamlet moments ever since I got back from Vegas. I don't know where you get that I'm doing a commercial for Westgate and not really questioning about "should I buy or what should I buy". Sorry. No comprende.

Kathy, if you can spend just $200 a year and get an unlimited number of timeshare weeks for $79 or even $159, then maybe we should all move to Vegas and live in the Westgate. Because, at $150 a week it sounds like an extremely cheap rent for a furnished one bedroom utilities paid housekeeping included, secure apartment. As the old saying goes, if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.
I would not be getting an "unlimited number of timeshare weeks". Its only 1 week every other year in a home resort that I am dazzled by or something comparable through Interval. Actually its a partial membership. That means its only 4 nights and 5 days at my home resort in Vegas, but a full week at any other WG or Interval resort.

As you pointed out in the paragraphs and posts above, buying a timeshare is not a light or quickly undertaken obligation. One should fully understand all of the fees and ongoing commitments that accompany the purchase of any timeshare or vacation club etc...
That's why I don't like the idea of ownership. As an owner, do I really own a timeshare, or does the timeshare own me? I just discovered that my vacation club membership has an expiration after 15-17 years. I like that. Its simple. It just goes away. I would like the timeshare if I could get it to just go away too when I'm too old to travel. Timeshares are forever, and forever is a very long time. Thats my sticking point. Its possible that maybe one of my kids might change their minds and take it or even my granddaughter, but in the event that I can't get rid of it, I want the peace of mind that Westgate will take it back. They mentioned something about dealing with MF for people with hardships, but I don't know exactly what that means. It helps to discuss this on a message board because it helps me clarify my fears and doubts and the questions I need to ask.

There is ample evidence on the Internet and in court documents showing the kind of company that Westgate is. I suggest that most of it is not very flattering
I know that. It's just like TugBrian said above:

"for the most part, people rarely complain about westgate resorts themselves, Ive personally stayed at multiple ones and found them always nice and clean and would be happy to stay in them again. the treatment of their owners however and difficulty of even giving them away when its time to end your ownership, leaves a great deal to be desired!

those two items are mutually exclusive however, and one should not be used to compare the other as they are not related in any way. folks can absolutely HATE westgate for their shady practices and treatement of owners...and still have great vacations while at the resorts."

That's been my experience. I love my vacations there, but I actually got out of a timeshare once before in Florida with them. They were like a bunch of sharks. What a shady bunch. They told all kinds of lies and did a lot of the same things I read about in the forums here. The people in Vegas seem way different. They're more upfront and they seem more truthful, although they're still selling timeshares, so I can't trust them THAT much. A big difference between Florida and Vegas is that Nevada has a state law that timeshares must provide a copy of a buyer's right to cancel. So the right to cancel along with a cancellation notice that I could sign and send was provided to me along with my contract. I decided to get out of it while in Vegas, but then they dropped the price for me so then I decided to keep it. When I got home I decided not to keep it and I sent the cancellation letter. Then I ended up regretting that, so I'm still going back and forth because its not too late, I can still send a reactivation letter. The people I dealt with in Vegas never gave me a hard time about cancelling. As a matter of fact they were so nice and so very helpful. Not like the sharks in Florida, which actually made it easier for me to make up my mind and get out of that contract.
 

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That is why it is mportant to take your time and learn. If you buy a timeshare that is in a high demand area in prime time, that others want too, you will have an easier time being able to pass it on when you no longer want to use it.
That's what this timeshare is, and I haven't seen any for resale yet because they are so new. That kind of makes me want to grab this because they are hard to get, and at least the maintenance fees are priced right.
 

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while im sure its a nice resort, there are literally tons of timeshares for sale in las vegas. outside of orlando it has more timeshares than anywhere else in the world. Westgate is certainly not the cream of the crop, and has many many other options that would be on par with any Westgate resort...many of which are likely available in droves on the resale market!

alternatively, you can also simply rent from existing owners until resales at this resort start to become available!

one always has options!
 

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That's what this timeshare is, and I haven't seen any for resale yet because they are so new. That kind of makes me want to grab this because they are hard to get, and at least the maintenance fees are priced right.
I am in a similar situation. There is a timeshare I want that right now is not readily available on resale at a a price that I feel is right. Through my many years of timesharing, I know new becomes older and available in time at the right price. Right price to me is, can I get rid of it tomorrow for what I got it for if I no longer want it. I am just sitting back and waiting and watching until the needle in the haystack becomes available at the right price. I have acquired many of my timeshares for much less then others have, even in resale. Knowing exactly what is right for you without rushing and patience usually gets you what you want at that right price.
 

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I am in a similar situation. There is a timeshare I want that right now is not readily available on resale at a a price that I feel is right.
How did you see that timeshare? Do you attend presentations from the company?

Through my many years of timesharing, I know new becomes older and available in time at the right price. Right price to me is, can I get rid of it tomorrow for what I got it for if I no longer want it. I am just sitting back and waiting and watching until the needle in the haystack becomes available at the right price. I have acquired many of my timeshares for much less then others have, even in resale. Knowing exactly what is right for you without rushing and patience usually gets you what you want at that right price.
I think you're right, and patience is not my forte. In fact impatience is my downfall. I'm glad I can discuss this here on this board because my kids don't want to hear about it and its been on my mind constantly. Have you ever tried to sell one of your timeshares?

I just got an idea of approaching my cousin who also loves to travel and whom I have travelled with about going in on a resale timeshare together. She once mentioned about buying a used timeshare from a friend but its not a wonderful timeshare. I think passing it on to HER kids would not be a problem, because they love to travel too.
 

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Let me be clear ... RESCIND!

You currently own a "small every other year partial week" vacation club type ownership ... Westgate is trying to compare your "piece of a candy bar" to their candy store... for 'like' the same price. Think of the term "smoke & mirrors". Your $200MFs for a partial every other year week stay (3 or 4 nights every other year to a FULL 7 night vacation stay every YEAR).... going up to $800 or more yearly.

You own an ODD ball interval ... they are selling you an every year full week interval plus you are keeping the original TS interval.

RENT at different resorts/areas YOU & your family might like going to. Renting can be cheaper than owning when doing it inside the 45/60 days before checkin. Follow the Last Minute Rentals thread here; request areas via the Last Minute Wanted thread...both have a $100 per day cap on rent asked for. Look at eBay for TS rentals.

And if you spend that $5,000 to buy a timeshare plus closing costs and then pay $800 (yearly increases) MFs yearly ... then decide to exchange via RCI/II, add $100 yearly exchange club fee PLUS $200 per interval exchanged into EACH time (now the cost is $1100 per exchange) ... renting begins to LOOK better.... PLUS you still have your original $5,000 because you did NOT buy any timeshare.

So like that fancy 'a la carte' dinner .... where the meat was ONLY $15.95 put the soup, salad, vegetables, bread plate, desert ADDED another $50 to the meal plus that $20 per glass of wine plus the mandatory 25% service fee plus the valet parking ... made it not a good value by the time you got home.
 

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How did you see that timeshare? Do you attend presentations from the company?



I think you're right, and patience is not my forte. In fact impatience is my downfall. I'm glad I can discuss this here on this board because my kids don't want to hear about it and its been on my mind constantly. Have you ever tried to sell one of your timeshares?

I just got an idea of approaching my cousin who also loves to travel and whom I have travelled with about going in on a resale timeshare together. She once mentioned about buying a used timeshare from a friend but its not a wonderful timeshare. I think passing it on to HER kids would not be a problem, because they love to travel too.
I went to a timeshare I really liked and Festiva was the management/ owner at the time. The resort also had fixed week owner units for weeks sold years prior from a prior developer. As much as I loved the resort I did not buy as Festiva points are very hard to get rid of, similar to westgate. Good I didn't buy as Festiva has sold their rights to bluegreen so ultimately I would have been holding my points with Festiva and not be able to go to this resort in the future as Festiva does not have weeks attached to your ownership. So now I wait, I either find a older fixed week at the right price or wait a few years until bluegreen resales come on the market, as bluegreen has fixed weeks attached to their ownership.

This year I decided to change my timeshare portfolio to what I can use to minimize trading fees. I love everything I own but due to lifestyle changes some weeks just fall out when I can't go. I offered three within the last few months to tug members for free. I have been fortunate to receive some of my timeshare free from other tuggers, so I did the same. Two of them went within the first day with multiple interest. The third, which I thought was the best, I pulled the listing after a few days. I called the resort to find out if they do closings and Instead I found out they were able to permently trade with me for another week I could actually use, I was so happy. Most timeshares probably would not do this. I will be offering a few more in a few months so I can update you with my results if you like.

As far as selling timeshares for money, most have no value in resale. Some do today but you need to assume in the future they may not.

Be aware many who want to give away their timeshares for free have no takers. The way to avoid this is to get a timeshare prime location, prime time when most people want to go, that units are not flooding the resale market, that are harder to find. I just patiently wait, watching tug, eBay, etc. Another way I acquired some was I called/emailed many self managed resorts to see if the HOA was selling anything. I acquired a few of my timeshares this way.
 

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I own in Vegas (Hilton), however when I visit Vegas, I don't use my timeshare. I either rent a timeshare, get a hotel room or trade via RCI or RCI getaways (cash). Why? Because it is cheaper to stay in Vegas this way. Westgate is far from the only option in town. Next spring we are staying at the Grandview for an entire week in a one bedroom for only $499 cash. That's half the price of my maintenance fee. (we trade our Vegas for Hawaii)

If you are motivated by the cost and want to stay in Vegas. You should consider free or low cost options which are also very nice resorts. You are making a decision on emotions right now and you need to be rational about such a long term decision.

All sales people are nice. They will disappear the minute you buy. Many only work one season for a timeshare company and quit.

You should judge based on how owners are treated because that is how you will be treated in the long run. The name brands e.g. Hilton, Marriott, Starwood, Worldmark, Hyatt treat their owners fairly. There are also several independent or HOA led resorts that are well respected. Check them out on Tug and elsewhere.

You need time to shop around and compare else you will regret this decision. There is no rush because this offer will come around again should you decide to move forward with all options evaluated.
 
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I'm not sure why, but I felt compelled to sort through this thread and interpret the OP's posts--which are obviously paraphrasing the salesperson's pitch/spiel/fabrications--and make sense of this.....so I can persuade anyone that reads this what a bad, bad idea this is.

First, for those who claim we are naysayers, if this deal makes you happy, self-actualized and meets your vacation needs, then you should buy what they are selling you; under the following conditions (IMHO). Do not sign/buy unless:

  • You fully understand ALL the rules, restrictions, covenants, changes, charges, fees etc... associated with this deal. Now and forever. This is a permanent arrangement that will NOT end until you satisfy their complete requirements for surrender/transfer, are deceased, or the property is seized/forfeited via legal means for non-payment etc...
    • The terms of surrender (The Legacy Program by Westgate) or transfer are dictated by Westgate or successors. This can change (and often has). It is NOT free. It is NOT without encumbrances or restrictions for the new owner and/or the old owner. It is, however, guaranteed....
    • The Legacy Program offers Westgate Resorts owners the ONLY Developer-guaranteed release option.
      • Guaranteed to generate revenue for Westgate
      • Guaranteed to prevent new owners from cheaply getting out of the deal they are now chained to.
      • Guaranteed to cost big $$$$$ for the poor owner who can no longer use or afford their timeshare
        • By working directly with Westgate Resorts, owners who chose to relinquish their timeshare have been able to do so with very little effort and have been able to relieve themselves of all future maintenance fee obligations. There are no hidden fees in our program and all steps in the process are clearly detailed upfront.
          • Very little effort: translated, very much cash or a new 'sucker' to inherit the timeshare and the financial obligation that goes with it
          • Relieve themselves : Yes, I'm sure that most owners 'relieve themselves' immediately when they hear the cost of the surrender option for most Westgate timeshares; purported to be above $2000. No real data, but that's a good guess.
          • No hidden fees : Indeed, there is NO hiding from the fees. They exist. You will be told. They are too big to easily hide; unlike the rescission instructions hidden in the secret Velcro pouch inside your owner's documents. THESE are very well hidden.
  • There are numerous reports that owners of partial weeks are being denied Interval exchange deposits.
  • The true cost of using a week in your new timeshare:
    • Maintenance Fees (not homeowners association fees) in the amount of $419 for EACH year of PARTIAL week use (EOY in this case). That will rise every year.
    • Interval International Exchange Fees: I believe Westgate owners get GOLD status for $89 per year
    • Exchange fees (internal) to use other Westgate properties for a FULL week at $159 (which will increase)
    • Exchange fees (external II) at $189 plus $79 for each additional room (BEDROOM that is) for each additional BED room you want you pay an upgrade fee
    • While Westgate Las Vegas IS an Elite resort (along with Gatlinburg and Park City) the majority of Westgate's LUXURY accommodations are not. This includes Flamingo
      • An Elite deposit is not required by Interval (yet) to exchange into an Elite property, but it doesn't matter Flamingo is Select, with fair to good reviews.
      • When you have a timeshare week that you want to exchange, it has a certain value, or trading power. Both II and RCI assign a value to your week. With either company, your trading power is based on numerous factors, including the demand for that destination, the quality of your timeshare resort, the size of the unit you are exchanging, the season you own, and more.
      • Your Flamingo would have a TDI value between 90 and 150. Westgate chooses the deposit week. IF it were a Flamingo deposit. Average is about 120. Ok, but not great. The Westgate agreement with Interval may not require a specific resort deposit. Thus, you COULD be given a Westgate Williamsburg (frozen) Mud week with a TDI of 50. A looser in most trade scenarios.
      • There is no guarantee of trade ability, dates or locations. You get what you get. Oh, and you can't get it back. There are fees associated with changes and cancellations. There are provisions for developer imposed fees as well.
  • "There are no restrictions as to when I can book my vacation."
    Ouch. That is truly a classic sales line...
    • Subject to Westgate terms and conditions for booking partial weeks
    • subject to availability
    • subject to force majeure
    • subject to periodic changes in terms and conditions by Wastegate
  • Do you really need to finance a luxury purchase? Ask yourself again. DO YOU REALLY NEED TO FINANCE A LUXURY PURCHASE? Only you can decide.
Finally.....if you understand all the above, if you think it meets all your needs, desires and financial comfort zone, then....
  • Is this timeshare ($8000 purchase, EOY, Partial week, 1br, $419 maintenance fee) the best value for your money?
    • Expect this timeshare to have a value of $ zero dollar--or less (pay to return/transfer) as soon as you drive off the dealers lot
    • If you enjoy your timeshare for 10 years, the effective MF is > $1200 per year plus inflation growth, not a good value for partial week 1b IMHO
    • Partial week timeshares are especially awkward to book, trade and exchange
    • Westgate rentals via numerous sources (including your vacation club) are easy to book and inexpensive. Peak season Elite resorts excluded.
    • I just searched for Westgate Flamingo and came up with over 100 open units: Oct 18-Feb 19. Every month. Christmas and New Years weeks 2018. This is one and two bedroom units. My point: VERY low demand, therefore very low trade value in Interval.
My summary? A timeshare company with a very poor consumer rating. A poor value with limited options. An awkward partial week with dubious trade options (external).

Do yourself a favor: stick with your vacation club and don't buy this white elephant.

http://www.wgtravelclub.com/terms.html

Oh, BTW: if you didn't notice in the terms and conditions of your Westgate Travel Club documents, you can not opt out of your club for greater than 3 years consecutively, and they have the right to change the renewal/program fees at any time. Oh, and the program might or might not terminate in 5 years.

Good luck!
 
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