No More Single Use for You!

[Cornell]

https://wgntv.com/news/illinois/new-law-to-ban-illinois-hotels-from-providing-small-plastic-bottles-of-personal-care-products-in-rooms-for-guests/

A new law, signed by Gov. JB Pritzker last month, will ban hotels in the state from providing small, single-use plastic bottles containing personal-care products to lodgers staying at a hotel or guests using a hotel’s public bathroom.

 

[Cornell]

I was curious enough to read the actual law. Single use is defined as 6 oz or less.

 

[Tia]

I do not like the larger multi use shampoo/conditioner I've seen in hotels now. Guess I'll bring my own

 

[Timeshare Von]

I've been traveling with my own shampoo and soap for years now.

 

[rickandcindy23]

Every resort is going to large bottles, attached to the wall. I like the Westin products and Marriott seem good too. Wyndham has Roots, I think it's called, and it was fine. Sheraton Broadway has products that smell like Irish Spring. That was weird.

 

[marmite]

I'm sure this is going to be an unpopular viewpoint, but I still like the little bottles when I book a luxury hotel (I bring my own stuff for the 'meh' hotels). I enjoy the high-end products, and I can take the rest home to enjoy when I leave. I recycle it all so don't have to worry about if the hotel does or not.

Sure, they're addressing single-use bottles but they are not taking the extra step of requiring REFILLABLE containers in the hotels. Those plastic bottles in the shower are still being disposed of (or recycled). Not sure what the environmental impact is recycling a big bottle vs. a bunch of small ones. I think hotels are interested in adopting this because it is cheaper for them, and the appearance on first-glance of being green. I am surprised the amount of stuff that isn't recycled at hotels, many don't have separate bins available in your room to keep the recycling out of the garbage.

 

[TheHolleys87]

I've been traveling with my own shampoo and soap for years now.

I've always packed my own. I'm particular on my shampoo, but as far as body wash goes I remember as a child the tiny bars of Cashmere Bouquet we'd get in motels, and I grew up knowing that I couldn't depend on every place having a sufficient supply of soap. That became especially true after I had kids, and Mommy was the one everyone depended on to have everything they needed.

 

[dioxide45]

I wonder really how effective these bans really are. They replace the little bottles with refillable ones on the wall, but those refillable ones still get refilled from an even bigger bottle. Unless they just remove those and replace them with a full one and toss the empty. I would think there is some reduction in plastic, but what is it? 40%, 20%, 10%. Do we even know. Could the politicians cite a number from a study? With this, you may instead drive people to just go out and buy their own travel size products. Or they buy or bring their own and toss what is leftover at the end of their trip. I think like the plastic bag bans, it won't be as effective as they really think it will be and it is more about the virtue signal of making themselves feel good about themselves because they think they are doing something good.

 

[joestein]

Let's talk about the real truth here. The Hotel industry is probably the biggest lobbyist for this. Yet... it gets passed all in the name of the environment. Just a way for them to say they are forced to use the large tanks for soap, shampoo, etc.

No different than bans on plastic or paper bags - the Supermarkets are the biggest lobbyers for that.

This is a win-win for the specific industry and for the politicians. The Hotels or Supermarkets save money, and the politicians can say - look at my record on the environment. Us the consumers are the real losers. If you think the Hotels or Supermarkets care one whit about the environment or sustainability - I have a bridge to sell you.

Meanwhile in NJ - they are starting to regret the plastic/paper ban. Shoplifting is out of control because they no longer have a good way to tell if someone is paying for something that's in the cart.. Same thing for self-checkout - people learn how to steal from the system.

 

[marmite]

Let's talk about the real truth here. The Hotel industry is probably the biggest lobbyist for this. Yet... it gets passed all in the name of the environment. Just a way for them to say they are forced to use the large tanks for soap, shampoo, etc.

No different than bans on plastic or paper bags - the Supermarkets are the biggest lobbyers for that.

This is a win-win for the specific industry and for the politicians. The Hotels or Supermarkets save money, and the politicians can say - look at my record on the environment. Us the consumers are the real losers. If you think the Hotels or Supermarkets care one whit about the environment or sustainability - I have a bridge to sell you.

Meanwhile in NJ - they are starting to regret the plastic/paper ban. Shoplifting is out of control because they no longer have a good way to tell if someone is paying for something that's in the cart.. Same thing for self-checkout - people learn how to steal from the system.

I don't know a ton about US politicians, but when I looked up Gov. JB Pritzker, I read his family billions was made with their Hyatt hotels. Must be beneficial to the hotel business bottom-line.

 

[Brett]

Let's talk about the real truth here. The Hotel industry is probably the biggest lobbyist for this. Yet... it gets passed all in the name of the environment. Just a way for them to say they are forced to use the large tanks for soap, shampoo, etc.

No different than bans on plastic or paper bags - the Supermarkets are the biggest lobbyers for that.

This is a win-win for the specific industry and for the politicians. The Hotels or Supermarkets save money, and the politicians can say - look at my record on the environment. Us the consumers are the real losers. If you think the Hotels or Supermarkets care one whit about the environment or sustainability - I have a bridge to sell you.

Meanwhile in NJ - they are starting to regret the plastic/paper ban. Shoplifting is out of control because they no longer have a good way to tell if someone is paying for something that's in the cart.. Same thing for self-checkout - people learn how to steal from the system.

yes, New Jersey certainly knows the "real truth" about industry

 

[Luanne]

yes, New Jersey certainly knows the "real truth" about industry

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Up until last year you couldn't pump your own gas in Oregon.

All gas stations in Oregon can now allow customers to pump their own gas under a new law signed Friday, lifting a ban on self-service in the state dating back to 1951. The new law, House Bill 2426, signed Friday by Democratic Gov.Aug 6, 2023

 

[easyrider]

I don't know a ton about US politicians, but when I looked up Gov. JB Pritzker and read his family billions was made with their Hyatt hotels. Must be beneficial to the hotel business bottom-line.

It probably all started with supply chain issues during the Pandemic and will end when these communal items are tampered with to the extent of harming a guest and the businesses get sued, imo.

Personally, I can't read the bottles on the wall so I don't use them unless there is no other choice. Maybe hospitality should invent a one product for hair and skin and use only one lockable dispenser.

Bill

 

[joestein]

It probably all started with supply chain issues during the Pandemic and will end when these communal items are tampered with to the extent of harming a guest and the businesses get sued, imo.

Personally, I can't read the bottles on the wall so I don't use them unless there is no other choice. Maybe hospitality should invent a one product for hair and skin and use only one lockable dispenser.

Bill

On the RCL cruise I was on in August - that is what they have. 1 dispenser with one product - listed as body wash/shampoo.

 

[easyrider]

On the RCL cruise I was on in August - that is what they have. 1 dispenser with one product - listed as body wash/shampoo.

Did you like it ?

Bill

 

[Snazzylass]

Just copying NYC. I didn't see where anyone mentioned that.

A lot of people (my kids) travel without toiletries & expect supplies available when they arrive.

If it's really nice stuff, I like it! I love the soap my T/S puts out. On my drive back to the Midwest this summer, I took a slight detour to check out the Pioneer Woman in Pawhuska, OK. I loved. loved the Nest products, particularly the shower gel. Her entire hotel was so fragrant. The ambiance was fabulous!

 

[joestein]

Did you like it ?

Bill

It is junk. At home I use 3 pumps of body wash and I get a ton of lather - I use the generic Costco body wash.

I must have pumped it at least 10 times and I barely get any lather.

 

[tombanjo]

Dear Maid, Please do not leave any more of those little bars of soap in my bathroom since I have brought my own bath-sized Dial. Please remove the six unopened little bars from the shelf under the medicine chest and another three in the shower soap dish. They are in my way. Thank you. S. Berman

Dear Room 635, I am not your regular maid. She will be back tomorrow, Thursday, from her day off. I took the 3 hotel soaps out of the shower soap dish as you requested. The 6 bars on your shelf I took out of your way and put on top of your Kleenex dispenser in case you should change your mind. This leaves only the 3 bars I left today which are my standing instructions from the management. I hope this is satisfactory. Kathy, Relief Maid

Dear Maid -- I hope you are my regular maid, Apparently Kathy did not tell you about my note to her concerning the little bars of soap. When I got back to my room this evening I found you had added 3 little Camays to the shelf under my medicine cabinet. I am going to be here in the hotel for two weeks and have brought my own bath-size Dial so I won't need those 6 little Camays which are on the shelf. They are in my way when shaving, brushing teeth, etc. Please remove them. S. Berman

Dear Mr. Berman, My day off was last Wednesday so the relief maid left 3 hotel soaps which we are instructed by the management. I took the 6 soaps which were in your way on the shelf and put them in the soap dish where your Dial was. I put the Dial in the medicine cabinet for your convenience. I did not remove the 3 complimentary soaps which are always placed inside the medicine cabinet for all new check-ins and which you did not object to when you checked in last Monday. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance. Your regular maid, Dotty

Dear Mr. Berman, The assistant manager, Mr. Kensedder informed me this A.M. that you called him last evening and said you were unhappy with your maid service. I have assigned a new girl to your room. I hope you will accept my apologies for any past inconvenience. If you have any future complaints please contact me so I can give it my personal attention. Call extension 1108 between 8 A.M. and 5 P.M. Thank you . Elaine Carmen, Housekeeper

Dear Miss Carmen, It is impossible to contact you by phone since I leave the hotel for business at 7:45 A.M. and don' t get back before 5:30 P.M. That's the reason I called Mr. Kensedder last night - you were already off duty. I only asked Mr. Kensedder if he could do anything about those little bars of soap. The new maid you assigned me must have thought I was a new check-in today, since she left another 3 bars of hotel soap in my medicine cabinet along with her regular delivery of 3 bars on the bathroom shelf. In just 5 days here I have accumulated 24 little bars of soap. Why are you doing this to me? S. Berman

Dear Mr. Berman, Your maid, Kathy, has been instructed to stop delivering soap to your room and remove the extra soaps. If I can be of further assistance, please call extension 1108 between 8:00 A.M. and 5:00 P.M.. Thank you. Elaine Carmen, Housekeeper

Dear Mr. Kensedder, My bath-size Dial is missing. Every bar of soap was taken from my room including my own bath-size Dial. I came in last last night and had to call the bellhop to bring me 4 little Cashmere Bouquets. S. Berman

Dear Mr. Berman, I have informed our housekeeper, Elaine Carmen, of your soap problem. I cannot understand why there was no soap in your room since our maids are instructed to leave 3 bars of soap each time they service a room. The situation will be rectified immediately. Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience. Martin L. Kensedder, Asst. Manager

Dear Mrs. Carmen, Who the hell left 54 little bars of Camay in my room? I came in last night and found 54 little bars of soap. I don't want 54 little bars of Camay. I want my one damn bar of bath-size Dial. Do you realize I have 54 bars of soap in here. All I want is my bath-size Dial. Please give me back my bath-size Dial. S. Berman

Dear Mr. Berman, You complained of too much soap in your room so I had them removed. Then you complained to Mr. Kensedder that all your soap was missing so I personally returned them - the 24 Camays which had been taken and the 3 Camays you are supposed to receive daily. I don't know anything about the 4 Cashmere Bouquets. Obviously your maid, Kathy, did not know I had returned your soaps so she also broguth 24 Camays plus the 3 daily Camays. I don't know where you got the idea this hotel issues bath-size Dial. I was able to locate some bath-size Ivory which I left in your room. Elaine Carmen, Housekeeper

Dear Mrs. Carmen, Just a short note to bring you up-to-date on my latest soap inventory. As of today I possess:

On shelf under medicine cabinet - 18 Camay in 4 stacks of 4 and 1 stack of 2. On Kleenex dispenser - 11 Camay in 2 stacks of 4 and 1 stack of 3. On bedroom dresser - 7 Cashmere Bouquet in 1 stack of 3 & 1 stack of 4, 1 hotel- size bath-size Ivory, and 8 Camay in 2 stacks of 4. Inside medicine cabinet - 14 Camay in 3 stacks of 4 and 1 stack of 2. In shower soap dish - 6 Camay, very moist. On northeast corner of tub - 1 Cashmere Bouquet, slightly used. On northwest corner of tub - 6 Camays in 2 stacks of 3.

Please ask Kathy when she services my room to make sure the stacks are neatly piled and dusted. Also, please advise her that stacks of more than 4 have a tendency to tip. May I suggest that my bedroom window sill, which is not in use, will make an excellent spot for future soap deliveries. One more item, I have purchased another bar of bath-size Dial which I am keeping in the hotel vault in order to avoid further misunderstandings. S. Berman

 

[klpca]

I am not sure why this law was passed (although I have an idea ) but this information about microplastics has definitely given me pause. The fact that it is found in brains and that there is a correlation between plastics and male fertility is very unsettling.

At any rate, I think that most of the shampoo/conditioner products that are offered at timeshares or hotels is cheap stuff that I wouldn't buy to use. My hair tends to be dry and using their hair products ensures that my hair will be the texture of old straw by the end of the week. I have been refilling my travel bottles for years. (I couldn't link the ones that I use because they are so ancient, but these looked similar).

 

[Carolinian]

I'm sure this is going to be an unpopular viewpoint, but I still like the little bottles when I book a luxury hotel (I bring my own stuff for the 'meh' hotels). I enjoy the high-end products, and I can take the rest home to enjoy when I leave. I recycle it all so don't have to worry about if the hotel does or not.

Sure, they're addressing single-use bottles but they are not taking the extra step of requiring REFILLABLE containers in the hotels. Those plastic bottles in the shower are still being disposed of (or recycled). Not sure what the environmental impact is recycling a big bottle vs. a bunch of small ones. I think hotels are interested in adopting this because it is cheaper for them, and the appearance on first-glance of being green. I am surprised the amount of stuff that isn't recycled at hotels, many don't have separate bins available in your room to keep the recycling out of the garbage.

There is also a safety question with the multi-use bottles. They should be required to be constructed so that nobody could put some other substance into the containers. If governmrnt is going to micromanage to this extent, they need to also look at consumer safetry.

 

[Luanne]

What's the worst with the multi-use containers at hotels is when you get into the shower and then find out that the bath gel/shampoo/conditioner container is empty.

 

[WaikikiFirst]

use the shower at the beach. rub some sand on it. scrub scrub

 

[susieq]

fMy hair tends to be dry and using their hair products ensures that my hair will be the texture of old straw by the end of the week. I have been refilling my travel bottles for years. (I couldn't link the ones that I use because they are so ancient, but these looked similar).

I've also been refilling my own bottles for years. Just bought mine at Target, (I think ~ either that or Walmart )~ exactly like the ones pictured ..... without the wait or shipping!!

 

[Luanne]

I've also been refilling my own bottles for years. Just bought mine at Target, (I think ~ either that or Walmart )~ exactly like the ones pictured ..... without the wait or shipping!!

I do the same. I like my hair products. For just an overnight I will use the hotel product, but for any longer than that I use my own. I have a toiletries bag that is pretty much ready to go every time I travel. Since I had to replace so many things like hairbrushes, toothbrushes, etc. when our luggage was delayed a few years ago I just keep all of that in the travel bag. I do refill some of the products like the hair stuff.

 

[kanerf]

I always carry my Colonial Williamsburg Peppermint Shower Gel and Head and Shoulders Bourbon shampoo.