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Newest item for Californians to take on vacation-- the dirty laundry

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California's problem isn't the lack of water, it's the lack of new reservoir construction. Add in the fact that the pols claim a smelt is endangered and trillions of gallons are flushed into the ocean.

The goal is to keep us starving so we're always begging. They've already done it to the farmers and we will be next.
I don't follow this particular political issue but what is their motivation for doing this? Why would they choose to put farmers out of business and make residents reduce their consumption to near zero? I honestly don't understand the financial motivation here.
 

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We build more lakes, for more water storage. Like virtually everywhere else, it comes from rainfall. Where does the Colorado's water come from? Rain/Snowfall. . .
Oh. I assumed aquifers possibly. Well I wish that we got enough rainfall to make conservation a moot point.
 

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I don't follow this particular political issue but what is their motivation for doing this? Why would they choose to put farmers out of business and make residents reduce their consumption to near zero? I honestly don't understand the financial motivation here.

It's like restaurant owners in NYC having to pay graft to the mafia or their trash doesn't get picked up.

If you take a drive up in central and Northern California, farmers have signs out on their property begging for water. Guess where the campaign contributions end up just so you can stay in business?
 

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California's problem isn't the lack of water, it's the lack of new reservoir construction. Add in the fact that the pols claim a smelt is endangered and trillions of gallons are flushed into the ocean.

The goal is to keep us starving so we're always begging. They've already done it to the farmers and we will be next.
Looking at @Ralph Sir Edward reply above, maybe it's a cost issue that keeps us from building reservoirs. I'm not sure how long you've been in the county but do you remember how much fuller Lake Hodges used to be say, 20 years ago? It seems like that has a lot of unused capacity there.
 

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Looking at @Ralph Sir Edward reply above, maybe it's a cost issue that keeps us from building reservoirs. I'm not sure how long you've been in the county but do you remember how much fuller Lake Hodges used to be say, 20 years ago? It seems like that has a lot of unused capacity there.

Laker Hodges was over flowing last year. The damn was recently raised at Lake San Vicente to make it bigger. I've lived in North County since 1977. San Diego's in better shape water-wise than most other places in California. We've got that new desalination plant in Carlsbad now as well.

Of course the Colorado river water is so hard it makes a water softener almost mandatory.
 

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Laker Hodges was over flowing last year. The damn was recently raised at Lake San Vicente to make it bigger. I've lived in North County since 1977. San Diego's in better shape water-wise than most other places in California. We've got that new desalination plant in Carlsbad now as well.

Of course the Colorado river water is so hard it makes a water softener almost mandatory.
So weird about Lake Hodges - we have friends who purchased a house in the Trails with a beautiful lake view, but it's been just a beautiful valley view for the past decade or so. I drive by there all the time but I haven't notice it on the east side of the 15. That's always my mental litmus test. But I don't really pay that much attention to it any more, so maybe their lake view is back! And it looks like we've been here about the same amount of time. :) Our little corner of the state and I do feel blessed to live here every day.

Btw, we must be the only Californians without a water softener. Lol.
 

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So weird about Lake Hodges - we have friends who purchased a house in the Trails with a beautiful lake view, but it's been just a beautiful valley view for the past decade or so. I drive by there all the time but I haven't notice it on the east side of the 15. That's always my mental litmus test. But I don't really pay that much attention to it any more, so maybe their lake view is back! And it looks like we've been here about the same amount of time. :) Our little corner of the state and I do feel blessed to live here every day.

Btw, we must be the only Californians without a water softener. Lol.

I think the operators of the lake can manage the level as they need it except of course in the drought years when it was really low.

Yes we moved to Vista in 1977 from West Los Angeles. I was a young lad of 13.
 

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Btw, we must be the only Californians without a water softener. Lol
I'm with you. I have no idea what soft water is or why hard water is a problem for anyone.
 

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I don't follow this particular political issue but what is their motivation for doing this? Why would they choose to put farmers out of business and make residents reduce their consumption to near zero? I honestly don't understand the financial motivation here.
Because those that support them and get them elected have convinced them that creating water storage projects will kill the earth. They are even trying to get rid of the projects (dams and reservoirs) that we already have.
 

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Because those that support them and get them elected have convinced them that creating water storage projects will kill the earth. They are even trying to get rid of the projects (dams and reservoirs) that we already have.
Probably obvious, but they can't really be that short sighted, can they? On the other hand, Hetch Hetchy/Yosemite Valley. If you've been to both you understand. I'm glad that at least one was preserved.
 

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Right now California is awash (very appropriate word) in water. Lest one forget, here is what the reservoirs looked like five years ago. Certainly I am not against more reservoirs, but for them to work, rainfall and far more importantly, the snow pack in the mountains is what counts. Nature bats last.

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Btw, we must be the only Californians without a water softener. Lol.
I'm with you. I have no idea what soft water is or why hard water is a problem for anyone.

I don't have one either. But I know they were big business when I worked in finance. A water softener contract was a big deal. Customers spent upwards of $3500 to own one and that was in the 80's. I'm sure my appliances and pool could have escaped scale and mineral deposits had I installed one but these are first world problems to me. I just need my water drinkable.

Funny thing is I don't like the taste of softened water. When I was a kid (70's) I was at a friends house and she offered me a glass of tap water. I asked her if it was hard or soft water. She turned on the spigot and ran her finger under it and said, soft. LOL!
 

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You can buy a softener at Lowe’s for about $400.
 

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Right now California is awash (very appropriate word) in water. Lest one forget, here is what the reservoirs looked like five years ago. Certainly I am not against more reservoirs, but for them to work, rainfall and far more importantly, the snow pack in the mountains is what counts. Nature bats last.
^^This^^. Having lived in San Diego's inland north county for the past 30 years, I've seen many wet cycles and many dry cycles. And not surprisingly, I've observed the state of Lake Hodges change (full to empty to full again) many times as well.
 
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