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Hi all,

Had a timeshare presentation from Hilton (Parc Soleil Orlando) yesterday. The day before was researching, and found this site, which made me back off from purchasing.

Agent was nice and friendly, and was upfront about the maintenance fees (we had gone to a different one a few years back, where the agent tried to hide the fact that there was annual costs)

Started off asking for 42k for 5000 points, when i said no, went down to 3400 for 22k and then somehow they "found" a new deal for 3500 for 11k (Deeded to a 2 bedroom at the resort). Annual Maintenance $1375.

They also mentioned that once someone is a member then they can pretty much book anywhere with RCI and get a vacation week for about $299 (i believe).

I didn't end up buying, but was wondering what peoples thoughts were.

1: Was that a good deal? (3500 points for 11k)?

Is the ability to rent weeks for $299 form RCI real? That seems to be a great perk, and can use that to book vacations for friends.

Thanks in advance and appreciate the community and the help!
 

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Hi all,

Had a timeshare presentation from Hilton (Parc Soleil Orlando) yesterday. The day before was researching, and found this site, which made me back off from purchasing.

Agent was nice and friendly, and was upfront about the maintenance fees (we had gone to a different one a few years back, where the agent tried to hide the fact that there was annual costs)

Started off asking for 42k for 5000 points, when i said no, went down to 3400 for 22k and then somehow they "found" a new deal for 3500 for 11k (Deeded to a 2 bedroom at the resort). Annual Maintenance $1375.

They also mentioned that once someone is a member then they can pretty much book anywhere with RCI and get a vacation week for about $299 (i believe).

I didn't end up buying, but was wondering what peoples thoughts were.

1: Was that a good deal? (3500 points for 11k)?

Is the ability to rent weeks for $299 form RCI real? That seems to be a great perk, and can use that to book vacations for friends.

Thanks in advance and appreciate the community and the help!
first, thank god you found TUG. You just saved thousands! Second, always buy resale!

Not a good deal at all, you would have thrown away thousands! ...... the RCI is most likely referring to the exchange deposit fee. Also, HGVC is going to be a step above most RCI resorts.

I recommend that you first ask yourself, are you going to plan quite a few months in advance? If so, ownership has benefits. Next, why Hilton? Because you happened to be there or get a deal to sit in a presentation? I’d look at why you’re leaning toward Hilton. There are other systems. Vistana, Marriott, Hyatt, Wyndham etc. I own vistana and there are different ownerships to get with vistana, same as Marriott. I’d take a look at the systems and the locations and ask yourself can you see yourself going to certain locations over another? If you’re set on Hilton then buy resale! If you buy vistana make sure it’s a mandatory deed so the use of star options transfer on resale.Which brings up another point. Check here and ask a ton of questions on what restrictions resale has. Some resorts or phases in resorts on resale don’t receive the same benefits. With that being said. Research the different systems, once you have the one you want to own in, find an expert and post a few questions in that systems board and sit back and learn a ton. THEN buy resale
 

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@Grammarhero does this count in the “ I found this site and decided to not pull the trigger”? I’d count the 11K saved by TUG!
 

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Hi all,

Had a timeshare presentation from Hilton (Parc Soleil Orlando) yesterday. The day before was researching, and found this site, which made me back off from purchasing.

Agent was nice and friendly, and was upfront about the maintenance fees (we had gone to a different one a few years back, where the agent tried to hide the fact that there was annual costs)

Started off asking for 42k for 5000 points, when i said no, went down to 3400 for 22k and then somehow they "found" a new deal for 3500 for 11k (Deeded to a 2 bedroom at the resort). Annual Maintenance $1375.

They also mentioned that once someone is a member then they can pretty much book anywhere with RCI and get a vacation week for about $299 (i believe).

I didn't end up buying, but was wondering what peoples thoughts were.

1: Was that a good deal? (3500 points for 11k)?

Is the ability to rent weeks for $299 form RCI real? That seems to be a great perk, and can use that to book vacations for friends.

Thanks in advance and appreciate the community and the help!
Terrible deal. Can probably be bought for $3k.
 

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@Grammarhero does this count in the “ I found this site and decided to not pull the trigger”? I’d count the 11K saved by TUG!
I think Brian wants rescission stats, so unfortunately not. Appreciate all your help though!
 

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I think Brian wants rescission stats, so unfortunately not. Appreciate all your help though!
Makes sense. We should start a side column for “ I was going to buy but googled and found tug so I walked away”
 

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Congratulations on finding TUg. For that price you can buy a Platinum season and have nearly double the points. Please read the HGVC Stickies so you will know what and where to buy.
 

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Makes sense. We should start a side column for “ I was going to buy but googled and found tug so I walked away”
@TUGBrian thoughts? I also support @CPNY as Co-Rescission Master. He’s been very helpful and learning about all the different rescission rules in the different states.
 
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Thank you for your replies, and yes really glad i found this site!

I did a IHG one a few years back. and didn't like the sales pitch (as mentioned above, the agent tried to hide the costs.) - and the Hilton was just because they offered us a deal :)


For the RCI they said its nothing to do with the points. Even if you have used them you still have the ability to pay $299 and book a suite (subject to inventory)

I mentioned that I can buy resale, and he said it was a fair point, but that through resale you can only go to that resort and cannot trade points in to go to another resort.
 

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Thank you for your replies, and yes really glad i found this site!

I did a IHG one a few years back. and didn't like the sales pitch (as mentioned above, the agent tried to hide the costs.) - and the Hilton was just because they offered us a deal :)


For the RCI they said its nothing to do with the points. Even if you have used them you still have the ability to pay $299 and book a suite (subject to inventory)

I mentioned that I can buy resale, and he said it was a fair point, but that through resale you can only go to that resort and cannot trade points in to go to another resort.
He lied. But also why I said it’s important to understand what system and contract you’re looking at resale because some will have restrictions. His blanket dismissal is wrong. There are some you have the same rights as developer purchase. Also, when a sales person starts using exchange companies as a sales tactic they lost. Don’t count on that. While it can be great, if you’re not committed to searching and flexibility you could be at a terrible exchanged resort. I’m not too familiar with RCI. I’m actually trying to learn the system as well. I know Interval sells “getaways” which can be great. Two weeks ago I bought a 2 bedroom for 550 at Marriott in Orlando. Ones that are 299 are places I’d never stay. Can I ask, which locations would you be interested in going to?
 

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Hi all,

Had a timeshare presentation from Hilton (Parc Soleil Orlando) yesterday. The day before was researching, and found this site, which made me back off from purchasing.

Agent was nice and friendly, and was upfront about the maintenance fees (we had gone to a different one a few years back, where the agent tried to hide the fact that there was annual costs)

Started off asking for 42k for 5000 points, when i said no, went down to 3400 for 22k and then somehow they "found" a new deal for 3500 for 11k (Deeded to a 2 bedroom at the resort). Annual Maintenance $1375.

They also mentioned that once someone is a member then they can pretty much book anywhere with RCI and get a vacation week for about $299 (i believe).

I didn't end up buying, but was wondering what peoples thoughts were.

1: Was that a good deal? (3500 points for 11k)?

Is the ability to rent weeks for $299 form RCI real? That seems to be a great perk, and can use that to book vacations for friends.

Thanks in advance and appreciate the community and the help!
Welcome to Tug, glad you found us in time.

From my experience you should be able to get 3400-3500 points for free. I have also found 5000 points for free.

Stick around, learn, this way you know what you want and need and watch the bargain section and with patience and knowledge you will get what you want.
 

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He lied. But also why I said it’s important to understand what system and contract you’re looking at resale because some will have restrictions. His blanket dismissal is wrong. There are some you have the same rights as developer purchase. Also, when a sales person starts using exchange companies as a sales tactic they lost. Don’t count on that. While it can be great, if you’re not committed to searching and flexibility you could be at a terrible exchanged resort. I’m not too familiar with RCI. I’m actually trying to learn the system as well. I know Interval sells “getaways” which can be great. Two weeks ago I bought a 2 bedroom for 550 at Marriott in Orlando. Ones that are 299 are places I’d never stay. Can I ask, which locations would you be interested in going to?
Thank you, we are pretty flexible for most things, really wherever warm place (in USA) we can get cheap tickets to :)

Family of 5, so need some space,.

Thank you so much for that information, i'll need to check into the systems a lot more :)
 

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Welcome to Tug, glad you found us in time.

From my experience you should be able to get 3400-3500 points for free. I have also found 5000 points for free.

Stick around, learn, this way you know what you want and need and watch the bargain section and with patience and knowledge you will get what you want.
Thanks!

You seem to have own/ed a bunch of them. :)

Do you like them? recommend them?
 

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Thank you, we are pretty flexible for most things, really wherever warm place (in USA) we can get cheap tickets to :)

Family of 5, so need some space,.

Thank you so much for that information, i'll need to check into the systems a lot more :)
What part of the country do you live in?
Marriott warm places.... Aruba, St Thomas, Florida, and others
Vistana mandatory resorts.... St John, Atlantis Bahamas, Florida, SC, Mexico, Hawaii, AZ, CA
HGVC A ton in FL, HI, SC, CA, Mexico...etc

check the resorts and locations then buy in
 

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What part of the country do you live in?
Marriott warm places.... Aruba, St Thomas, Florida, and others
Vistana mandatory resorts.... St John, Atlantis Bahamas, Florida, SC, Mexico, Hawaii, AZ, CA
HGVC A ton in FL, HI, SC, CA, Mexico...etc

check the resorts and locations then buy in
Toronto Canada.

Pretty much everywhere else is warmer i guess
 

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What part of the country do you live in?
Marriott warm places.... Aruba, St Thomas, Florida, and others
Vistana mandatory resorts.... St John, Atlantis Bahamas, Florida, SC, Mexico, Hawaii, AZ, CA
HGVC A ton in FL, HI, SC, CA, Mexico...etc

check the resorts and locations then buy in
We usually go to Florida or California
 

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Thanks!

You seem to have own/ed a bunch of them. :)

Do you like them? recommend them?
Toronto Canada.

Pretty much everywhere else is warmer i guess
shocked you don’t want Caribbean. Canadians love the Caribbean, I guess it’s always so cold up there Eh? Lol. Hilton has a lot of Florida resorts, but if you’re gonna fly, I’d go with vistana. The kids will love St. John, Bahamas, Cancun and Hawaii..... so will you. But if Florida and CA are are goal then I think HGVC has the most in those locations.
 

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Thanks!

You seem to have own/ed a bunch of them. :)

Do you like them? recommend them?
Yes I do like hgvc. I am going to one of hgvc’s Captiva properties next week. Only problem is now I have too many. As I said watch the bargain section.
 

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Definitely research the Systems. Read. Read. Read. We are SoCal and family of 7. Own w/in MVC family, HGVC affiliate, and an Independent. As @Panina suggested, check the Bargain section. I was able to pick up 2 of our TS for free as well as give away one or 2.

Worldmark is primarily Western US and I believe has CDN locations as well. HGVC is both Coast, International as well as Hawaii. MVC, which includes Vistana and Hyatt, is national and Carribean as well as Mexico. Almost everyone has affiliate relationships s. And then there are the Independents. So do your diligence. Rent until you are sure so you don’t make the costly mistake of buying the wrong location/season.
 

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Toronto Canada.

Pretty much everywhere else is warmer i guess
Ah Toronto, our USA city. i'm from the good capital in Ontario :)

I spend the 6 months of winter mostly in Florida and CA (also AZand HI). I use Diamond Resorts (400 locations) and Raintree Vacation Club. Everyone has different needs so research and then pick up what you need for free.

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My suggestions:

1. Rent a couple of times. It will focus you on what is important, what you like, and what level of amenities you want to pay for. Take your time; resale prices aren't going up while you do this painless research.

2. Before you buy, make sure you have an exit plan. If a unit is being given away today, shouldn't you expect to have a difficult time disposing of it when the time comes?

3. When it's time to buy, don't obsess in the slightest if a deal you wanted doesn't happen, regardless of why. There will be another unit, exactly the same, soon enough.
 

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I agree with what others have posted, research the different TS systems to determine the best fit for you. I love the flexibility of HGVC, but it might not be the best fit for you.
 

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For the RCI they said its nothing to do with the points. Even if you have used them you still have the ability to pay $299 and book a suite (subject to inventory)
This was probably RCI’s Last Call. These are last minute weeks they couldn’t book that are in the low season. It’s a good benefit if you can use it, it’s not why you should purchase. Any RCI membership has that ability.


I mentioned that I can buy resale, and he said it was a fair point, but that through resale you can only go to that resort and cannot trade points in to go to another resort.
Not true. I only bought resale and I have never stayed there. Going to Ocean 22 in Myrtle Beach this summer.
 
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