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Would like to try to find a fare around $200 round trip if possible.

Willing to stopover but not fly overnight.

February 17th-February 24th

Leaving from NYC (LGA, JFK, HPN, Newark less desirable) or BDL

Going to MCO (not Tampa), five passengers

Thanks for any help!!

Sharon
 

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Sharon,

Just curious as to why you don't want Tampa as an alternate airport. I've flown into Orlando for years to work in Tampa because the fares are cheaper. The drive is easy between the two cities. I wouldn't hesitate a bit to fly into either one to go to the other if the fare was worth it.

Sheila
 

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Wait until Southwest comes out with their schedule for those flights. I think any US flights purchased this far in advance are bound to be high. Go into to Travelocity and get into the program and post your cities on faretracker they will notify you when it drops.
 

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Hi Shelia,

With the price of gas, the fact that we would be renting a gas guzzling minivan, and the drive time (which mapquest puts at an hour and thirty five minutes), I'd rather stick with Orlando if possible. We may have to rethink if the fare is tremendously cheaper, but that's a longer drive than we really want to take after flying.

Jules,

I'm entered into fare tracker right now. I'm so shocked at the pricing through travelocity right now!

Thanks!

Sharon
 

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Nothing personal, Sharon, and maybe it's just where we live, but since I commute at least an hour one way to work every day, an hour and a half to go on vacation would seem pretty good. I'd probably do it if I could save $25 per person based on five people. But JMHO.

Although it's a ways to go before you're flying, quite a risk though at that time of year and with rising fuel costs that you could end up paying more as time goes by. I think there have been some threads about flights to Hawaii and things that just keep going up and up.

Best of luck.

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jules54 said:
Wait until Southwest comes out with their schedule for those flights.

That's good advice. Or check Jet Blue out of JFK when their spring rates are available. Either of these airlines should produce relatively low rates if you buy when they first go on sale.
You may have difficulty finding a $200 rate from other carriers due to the week being a traditional school vacation week when demand generally pushes pricing upward quickly.

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It doesn't take 90 minutes to drive from the Tampa airport to Disney. It is a little over an hour, and interstate 75/4 the whole way once out of the airport.

Rental cars are about the same price and some of the better low cost ones are in the terminal in TPA.

Given the choice, I'd still fly in to MCO.
 

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Fare Details
 
Departing Airport 	NYC
Arriving Airport 	ORL
Departure Date 	02/17/07
 
Note:
The fares listed do not include airport and/or security fees.
 
Fare Basis 	Airline 	Booking Class 	Trip Type 	Fare 	Effective Date 	Expiration Date 	 
106 Fares Returned
Q7FL 	FL 	Q 	One-Way 	109.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
NA7C30N 	AA 	N 	One-Way 	114.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
NR7C30N 	AA 	N 	Round-Trip 	228.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
WA7N1A 	US 	W 	One-Way 	114.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
TA7UN 	UA 	T 	One-Way 	114.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
LR7P5N 	NW 	L 	Round-Trip 	228.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
VEA7NR 	NK 	V 	Round-Trip 	228.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
T7NBV 	DL 	T 	One-Way 	118.50 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
SR7C30N 	AA 	S 	Round-Trip 	268.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing

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Fare Details
 
Departing Airport 	NYC
Arriving Airport 	TPA
Departure Date 	02/17/07
 
Note:
The fares listed do not include airport and/or security fees.
 
Fare Basis 	Airline 	Booking Class 	Trip Type 	Fare 	Effective Date 	Expiration Date 	 
111 Fares Returned
QA3C30N 	AA 	Q 	One-Way 	94.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
QR3C30N 	AA 	Q 	Round-Trip 	188.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
SA7N1D 	US 	S 	One-Way 	94.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
V7FL 	FL 	V 	One-Way 	109.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
Q14FL 	FL 	Q 	One-Way 	109.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
NA7C30N 	AA 	N 	One-Way 	114.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
NR7C30N 	AA 	N 	Round-Trip 	228.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
WA7N1B 	US 	W 	One-Way 	114.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
TA7UN 	UA 	T 	One-Way 	114.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
TR7P5NU 	NW 	T 	Round-Trip 	228.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing

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Departing Airport 	BDL
Arriving Airport 	TPA
Departure Date 	02/17/07
 
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The fares listed do not include airport and/or security fees.
 
Fare Basis 	Airline 	Booking Class 	Trip Type 	Fare 	Effective Date 	Expiration Date 	 
87 Fares Returned
TE213NA/UAF 	UA 	T 	Round-Trip 	198.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
L21EVNRI/PE500 	NW 	L 	Round-Trip 	198.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
ON21AA3N 	AA 	O 	Round-Trip 	198.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing

I'd watch and wait. If you're vigilent, and fuel costs don't rise further, you should be able to find something in the 170.00 range, all-in.

Pat
 

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Pat,

Thank you for running these for me. While I'm not sure I understand all the lingo, I'm assuming that NW is Northwest, AA is American and UA is United. But...I can't find these fares on the airline websites (nor the budget travel websites). (On the American website, the cheapest fare from BDL to Tampa is $400 with one stop.) Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

Sharon
 
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 Flight Availability - NYC to ORL - 02/17/07
Airline 	Flight 	Stops 	Departure 	Arrival 	Aircraft 	Meal 	Available Classes 	 
12 Flights Returned
0 Connections
  	CO 	292 	0 	EWR
02/17/07 06:55AM 	MCO
02/17/07 09:34AM 	757 	S 	A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	890 	0 	LGA
02/17/07 07:30AM 	MCO
02/17/07 10:10AM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H0 Q0 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	AA 	1229 	0 	LGA
02/17/07 08:25AM 	MCO
02/17/07 11:18AM 	757 	K 	F7 A4 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L0 W0 V0 G0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 	
0 Connections
  	KE (DL) 	7853 	0 	JFK
02/17/07 08:35AM 	MCO
02/17/07 11:24AM 	752 		W4 Y4 K4 M0 T0 H0 S4 Q0 V0 	
0 Connections
  	CO 	1592 	0 	EWR
02/17/07 08:45AM 	MCO
02/17/07 11:29AM 	739 	S 	A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	1523 	0 	JFK
02/17/07 08:35AM 	MCO
02/17/07 11:24AM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H6 Q0 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	CO 	192 	0 	EWR
02/17/07 10:05AM 	MCO
02/17/07 12:43PM 	757 	L 	A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	1853 	0 	LGA
02/17/07 11:35AM 	MCO
02/17/07 02:17PM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	AA 	1617 	0 	LGA
02/17/07 11:25AM 	MCO
02/17/07 02:22PM 	S80 	L 	F7 A2 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L0 W0 V0 G0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	1525 	0 	JFK
02/17/07 12:40PM 	MCO
02/17/07 03:34PM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	CO 	492 	0 	EWR
02/17/07 12:55PM 	MCO
02/17/07 03:43PM 	757 	L 	A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
0 Connections
  	CO 	37 	0 	EWR
02/17/07 02:00PM 	MCO
02/17/07 04:38PM 	757 		A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
12 Flights Returned
 
Flight Availability - ORL to NYC - 02/24/07
Airline 	Flight 	Stops 	Departure 	Arrival 	Aircraft 	Meal 	Available Classes 	 
12 Flights Returned
0 Connections
  	DL 	1522 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 07:30AM 	JFK
02/24/07 09:58AM 	738 		F9 A6 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	KE (DL) 	7844 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 07:30AM 	JFK
02/24/07 09:58AM 	738 	F 	F4 W4 Y4 K4 M4 T4 H0 S4 Q0 V0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	1850 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 08:00AM 	LGA
02/24/07 10:36AM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	AA 	1368 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 08:35AM 	LGA
02/24/07 11:08AM 	S80 	K 	F7 A3 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M5 L0 W0 V0 G0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 	
0 Connections
  	CO 	393 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 09:30AM 	EWR
02/24/07 12:01PM 	757 		A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	1524 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 09:30AM 	JFK
02/24/07 12:04PM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	CO 	693 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 10:35AM 	EWR
02/24/07 01:10PM 	757 	L 	A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	1526 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 11:30AM 	JFK
02/24/07 02:06PM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	1852 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 12:10PM 	LGA
02/24/07 02:40PM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H2 Q0 K0 L0 U0 T0 	
0 Connections
  	CO 	1493 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 12:30PM 	EWR
02/24/07 03:10PM 	739 	L 	A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
0 Connections
  	CO 	36 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 01:45PM 	EWR
02/24/07 04:25PM 	757 		A9 D0 Z0 Y9 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0 	
0 Connections
  	DL 	1854 	0 	MCO
02/24/07 03:00PM 	LGA
02/24/07 05:31PM 	752 		Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K0 L0 U0 T0

Quick perusal shows most buckets zero'd out, likely due to holiday (I assume). Perhaps that will change. Have to check seat maps to comment further.

BTW, FL in the fare is AirTran... no seats available right now with them either.

Pat
 

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I think Air Tran only has fares up until the beginning of October as yet. Sharon, you are in the same boat as we are, returning at the end of Presidents' Week. They really nick you on the return flights. Good luck on your search.

Dori
 

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Departing Airport 	NYC
Arriving Airport 	ORL
Departure Date 	02/17/07
 
Note:
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Fare Basis 	Airline 	Booking Class 	Trip Type 	Fare 	Effective Date 	Expiration Date 	 
9 Fares Returned
Q7FL 	FL 	Q 	One-Way 	109.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
K7FL 	FL 	K 	One-Way 	151.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
M0FL 	FL 	M 	One-Way 	194.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
BFL 	FL 	B 	One-Way 	229.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
JX57FL 	FL 	J 	One-Way 	294.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
YFL 	FL 	Y 	One-Way 	294.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
AFL 	FL 	A 	One-Way 	364.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
Y 	FL 	Y 	One-Way 	1009.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing
F 	FL 	F 	One-Way 	1495.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing

If appears FL has fares filed in the GDS without regard to seasonality, hence the fares will list even though they do not yet schedule that far out. Something to watch, however, given their price point.

Pat
 

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You may also want to check Jacksonville as an alternative? Ann
 

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I just made my trade in Orlando for that week and will also need flights. I can only speak for BDL, your best bet will be to wait for Southwest. The next bump in the schedule will probably only go to Jan. sometime. Some time in October you will need to check flights daily or use Ding which I have never used. They will sell out for that Sat. to Sat. fast. There will be no deals as all direct flights will sell out. $300 would probably be a decent fare. I've never seen Tampa cheaper than Orlando from BDL and Jacksonville is a looong way and no direct flights to/from BDL, and the further you are from the airport the more things that can go wrong along the way, traffic, flat tire, etc.

I'm ready to go now!
 

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The low cost carriers such as Southwest are no longer the automatic choice for lowest fare. Their fuel and other costs have forced them to raise prices - just as the legacy carriers have. Southwest has raised prices in a number of ways, including last month upping its minimum fare bucket from $39 to $49 and its highest one-way prices from $299 to $309.

This morning's Wall Street Journal has several examples where the low-cost airlines lose out in pricing to the traditional airlines. Included is a trip between New York La Guardia to Fort Lauderdale, where Spirit's cheapest round-trip fare (before taxes and fees) is $148 versus only $138 for US Airways. Between the D.C. area and Chicago, American has a round-trip fare of $197 (including taxes), which is lower than Southwest's best fare of $232. Between New York and Tampa, JetBlue's best nonstop round-trip fare of $219 (including taxes) is higher than Delta's $179.

As the press and airline experts have been predicting, expect more airfare increases from all of the airlines over the next few months as the full impact of fuel price hikes kicks in. Southwest, which has traditionally hedged fuel costs with futures, won't be able to count on those locked-in lower costs much longer.
 

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wfillion said:
I've never seen Tampa cheaper than Orlando from BDL....
How about right now? Example: BDL-TPA round-trip on US Air and Delta 5/17-5/23 is $165 (including all fees and taxes) versus $183 on US Air for BDL-MCO. Southwest has a lower fare to Tampa ($148.90), but a much higher fare to Orlando. Other airlines are higher than those I quoted.
 

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Okay, so you found the one day the promotional fares were sold out, fly back the following day and the total fare is $137.10 to Orlando. I didn't say you couldn't get a cheaper flight to Tampa just that I hadn't seen one and this based only on dates I actually plan to fly or have flown. It would still have to be a big savings to make the trek to Tampa. I find MCO an easy airport to get in and out of except I always seem to try and return my rental car into the parking garage, the entrances are pretty close. Hmmm $137.10.
 

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Departing Airport 	BDL
Arriving Airport 	TPA
Departure Date 	05/17/06
 
Note:
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Fare Basis 	Airline 	Booking Class 	Trip Type 	Fare 	Effective Date 	Expiration Date 	 
98 Fares Returned
TA21NW 	US 	T 	One-Way 	59.00 (USD) 		06/14/06 	View Rules    View Routing
KR21W8NC 	NW 	K 	Round-Trip 	118.00 (USD) 	05/09/06 	06/15/06 	View Rules    View Routing
ORA21QDN 	AA 	O 	Round-Trip 	118.00 (USD) 		06/15/06 	View Rules    View Routing
T21RBV99 	DL 	T 	Round-Trip 	127.00 (USD) 		06/30/06 	View Rules    View Routing
SSA7WBW 	US 	S 	One-Way 	79.00 (USD) 		05/23/06 	View Rules    View Routing
SA7WBW 	US 	S 	One-Way 	79.00 (USD) 		05/23/06 	View Rules    View Routing
OR7DN 	AA 	O 	Round-Trip 	158.00 (USD) 		05/23/06 	View Rules    View Routing
WSA7NXD 	US 	W 	One-Way 	89.00 (USD) 		05/23/06 	View Rules    View Routing
LR7X8N 	NW 	L 	Round-Trip 	178.00 (USD) 		05/23/06 	View Rules    View Routing
TA7QBV99 	DL 	T 	One-Way 	93.50 (USD) 		09/12/06 	View Rules    View Routing
TE213NA/UAF 	UA 	T 	Round-Trip 	198.00 (USD) 			View Rules    View Routing

Annecdotally, I like BDL for its free wi-fi and TPA because the Marriott is right in the terminal...great for MR's. Now, if I can just find transcons to TPA for 125 all-in like last year.... ;)

Pat
 
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