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Thursday arrival, the only plane at Immigration and Customs, had my COVID form pre-printed and filled out so jumped passed most everyone as thsese weren't available until you entered the hall for Immigration. OK, so I've muscled my way through the 'shark tank' after immigration and customs at PVR many times. Put your head down, smile, keep moving to the exit outside. They would have given me a free ride to wherever I wanted to go as long as the next day they could come pick me up for a tour. Walked out of the airport past where the taxis pay their tax on each fare leaving the airport and paid a taxi 1/3 the fare from the airport pick-up to my resort.
Friends were going to Vallarta Adventures - Rhythms of the Night on Friday so we bought tickets to go with them. It was then cancelled for rain/wind, so we rescheduled for Saturday, but our friends had to take a refund as they had another engagement Saturday and were leaving on Sunday. I would never book the VIP package, the extra cost only gets you first on and off the boat on the way across Banderas Bay, seating up front in the small outdoor amphitheater, then first out of the amphitheater to your own dining area but drinks and food are the same and very mediocre. But I digress. Paying for VIP doesn't get you to the front of the line to check-in and get your wristband for boarding. Even before you get to that point you have to stop and pay port taxes and there's an official looking person who tells you this and then tries to take the conversation to a VIDANTA tour. So, when you get there on time there's lots of time to kill and you're in a lobby with lots of opportunity to spend money/booths with drinks and trinkets, but there's also official looking people with no name tags standing at high top tables gesturing to you to talk to them. They start with telling you what to expect on your Rythms of the Night trip/tour then lead you to "Want another (Vallarta Adventures) tour for free." They're VIDANTA. Hey, I had a half hour to kill, why let them have a chance at anyone else.
Wow, offered Maintenance Fee Reimbursement for an owned timeshare (Nebulous)
offered free R/T airline ticket back to PVR or wherever (Nebulous)
offered offered a free resort week (Nebulous)
offered a tour (Puerto Vallarta City , San Sebastian, Sayulita, Zip Lines, etc.)
offered Transportation to and from via taxi.
They wanted a $50 deposit in case I didn't show.
Wasn't doing anything on the next day, Sunday, so I bargained for all of the above plus two tours for two and said NO when they only wanted to do a second tour at 50% off. Also said I'd only give then 200 Pesos deposit (less than $10) and my word was better than the Mexican Peso. They said OK.
So Mr VIDANTA, who had said that he was going to be with us all day and get us home, too, was outside my resort bright and early. He gave us the two tours promised but they were with 'Discovery Tours' not Vallarta Adventures as expected. He also added a bottle of Tequila or Kahlua, I went with name brand Kahlua. Then he drove us down to a taxi stand and I never saw him again.
Greeted wonderfully on arrival at VIDANTA after having temperature taken and hand sanitizer at the main gate of this gigantic Disney World type complex. Taken by golf cart limo to a Grand Bliss building and warmly greeted again. Went inside to register and show IDs and proof of ownership (for Maintenance Fee reimbursement, etc.) Finally met my guy who escorted me through beautiful gardens and by beautiful pools to a terrific buffet brunch. Chit chat and conversation that he's really not in sales, he's corporate and is not on commission, yeah. (Sometime later he did say that he got bonuses for meeting and exceeding goals.) After breakfast a walk to see a Grand Bliss unit and then to his 'office' and more talk about what I owned and what they were going to offer ... not a timeshare, a "membership."
Membership of FOUR Grand Bliss weeks plus FOUR 'other' weeks. No fee except when you use, don't have to use all every year. Fee for GB weeks $1000-$3000 depending on unit size desired. 'Other' weeks were described as weeks that come from inventory they have purchased from new owners on trades costing the member $399-$999 to use depending on size and, of course, availability. Price? Only $890,000.00 (not Pesos.) We can only take one of your timeshares in trade as we've taken in too many in the past. We are members of ARDA and they 'regulate' us, really? ARDA has a database and we enter your ownership info and ARDA tells us what your equity is worth. OK, I'll trade my 900,000 point Wyndham Midtown 45, what's that worth. Data entered in front of me and 5-10 minutes later 'ARDA' sends them back my value of $216,000.00. Now my membership cost is only $674k. Somewhere in here salesman#2 sits down and says he'll take all my Wyndham contracts and my equity is $657,000. I only owe $232,000 for my new membership now! Told #1 and #2 that it wasn't happening. #3 the 'Quality Control' escort us out of the 'tank' talking to us on the way up to a table outside. She gets off the quality and starts offering us smaller offerings ... and WHAT? #1 didn't talk to you about PRIVILEGED and AMBASSADOR? OMG, he was great but #1 left that out, please don't get him in trouble.
PRIVILEGED - Maybe you get to use all your weeks at Grand Bliss instead of 'other.' I didn't go down that rabbit hole.
AMBASSADOR - Wow, you get weeks to give to Charity (But you can put any name on them but yours and use them) I won't tell.
Somewhere it went dow to 2 Grand Bliss and 2 Other, then 1 of each for only $59,000. Somewhere in there #4 took over. I was just say "puleeze, no" by that time.
Then escorted to bowels of some building where #5 tried again, he wasn't sales he was 'resort management,' then #6, dressed to kill, she offered $1,900. for the 1 Grand Bliss Week and one 'Other,"
NO. She sashayed ahead of us to gifting where we were given
Maintenance Fee Reimbursement for an owned timeshare (almost worthless bongo bucks that had to be spent as 'partial payment' on some site for savings off hotels, cruises, mechandise and more provided by International Cruise and Excursion Gallery - ICE, dba Vida Lifestyle) didn't give even one ten the the amount promised. Reminds me of the SFX savings account..... I know SFX is 'connected' with VIDANTA, VIDANTA provides them exchange inventory for sales leads.
Free R/T airline ticket back to PVR or wherever (One of those certs that you have to pay $75 non-refundable/ticket to activate and maybe in the off season they'll get you a flight where you pay the taxes and the max base fare is $400). Provided bt Grand Incentives.
Free resort week (1BR must pay non-refundable registration fee of $125 plus resort taxes, parking fees, resort fees of $5-$40/night) Provided by all sorts of names Journey Eight, Take a Getaway, Time Travel of Pompano Beach, etc; yes it's an offer to sell timeshare.
We were then directed out a door and up a ramp that left us nowhere with no clue as to where to go to get the taxi back to civilization. Finally flagged down a golf cart type 'bus' which took us to a parking and taxi depot. Taxi driver tried to charge us more that the normal fare mis-quoting from the pre-printed matrix which did have the correct fare.
I did enjoy the tours to San Sebastian and Sayulita.
Friends were going to Vallarta Adventures - Rhythms of the Night on Friday so we bought tickets to go with them. It was then cancelled for rain/wind, so we rescheduled for Saturday, but our friends had to take a refund as they had another engagement Saturday and were leaving on Sunday. I would never book the VIP package, the extra cost only gets you first on and off the boat on the way across Banderas Bay, seating up front in the small outdoor amphitheater, then first out of the amphitheater to your own dining area but drinks and food are the same and very mediocre. But I digress. Paying for VIP doesn't get you to the front of the line to check-in and get your wristband for boarding. Even before you get to that point you have to stop and pay port taxes and there's an official looking person who tells you this and then tries to take the conversation to a VIDANTA tour. So, when you get there on time there's lots of time to kill and you're in a lobby with lots of opportunity to spend money/booths with drinks and trinkets, but there's also official looking people with no name tags standing at high top tables gesturing to you to talk to them. They start with telling you what to expect on your Rythms of the Night trip/tour then lead you to "Want another (Vallarta Adventures) tour for free." They're VIDANTA. Hey, I had a half hour to kill, why let them have a chance at anyone else.
Wow, offered Maintenance Fee Reimbursement for an owned timeshare (Nebulous)
offered free R/T airline ticket back to PVR or wherever (Nebulous)
offered offered a free resort week (Nebulous)
offered a tour (Puerto Vallarta City , San Sebastian, Sayulita, Zip Lines, etc.)
offered Transportation to and from via taxi.
They wanted a $50 deposit in case I didn't show.
Wasn't doing anything on the next day, Sunday, so I bargained for all of the above plus two tours for two and said NO when they only wanted to do a second tour at 50% off. Also said I'd only give then 200 Pesos deposit (less than $10) and my word was better than the Mexican Peso. They said OK.
So Mr VIDANTA, who had said that he was going to be with us all day and get us home, too, was outside my resort bright and early. He gave us the two tours promised but they were with 'Discovery Tours' not Vallarta Adventures as expected. He also added a bottle of Tequila or Kahlua, I went with name brand Kahlua. Then he drove us down to a taxi stand and I never saw him again.
Greeted wonderfully on arrival at VIDANTA after having temperature taken and hand sanitizer at the main gate of this gigantic Disney World type complex. Taken by golf cart limo to a Grand Bliss building and warmly greeted again. Went inside to register and show IDs and proof of ownership (for Maintenance Fee reimbursement, etc.) Finally met my guy who escorted me through beautiful gardens and by beautiful pools to a terrific buffet brunch. Chit chat and conversation that he's really not in sales, he's corporate and is not on commission, yeah. (Sometime later he did say that he got bonuses for meeting and exceeding goals.) After breakfast a walk to see a Grand Bliss unit and then to his 'office' and more talk about what I owned and what they were going to offer ... not a timeshare, a "membership."
Membership of FOUR Grand Bliss weeks plus FOUR 'other' weeks. No fee except when you use, don't have to use all every year. Fee for GB weeks $1000-$3000 depending on unit size desired. 'Other' weeks were described as weeks that come from inventory they have purchased from new owners on trades costing the member $399-$999 to use depending on size and, of course, availability. Price? Only $890,000.00 (not Pesos.) We can only take one of your timeshares in trade as we've taken in too many in the past. We are members of ARDA and they 'regulate' us, really? ARDA has a database and we enter your ownership info and ARDA tells us what your equity is worth. OK, I'll trade my 900,000 point Wyndham Midtown 45, what's that worth. Data entered in front of me and 5-10 minutes later 'ARDA' sends them back my value of $216,000.00. Now my membership cost is only $674k. Somewhere in here salesman#2 sits down and says he'll take all my Wyndham contracts and my equity is $657,000. I only owe $232,000 for my new membership now! Told #1 and #2 that it wasn't happening. #3 the 'Quality Control' escort us out of the 'tank' talking to us on the way up to a table outside. She gets off the quality and starts offering us smaller offerings ... and WHAT? #1 didn't talk to you about PRIVILEGED and AMBASSADOR? OMG, he was great but #1 left that out, please don't get him in trouble.
PRIVILEGED - Maybe you get to use all your weeks at Grand Bliss instead of 'other.' I didn't go down that rabbit hole.
AMBASSADOR - Wow, you get weeks to give to Charity (But you can put any name on them but yours and use them) I won't tell.
Somewhere it went dow to 2 Grand Bliss and 2 Other, then 1 of each for only $59,000. Somewhere in there #4 took over. I was just say "puleeze, no" by that time.
Then escorted to bowels of some building where #5 tried again, he wasn't sales he was 'resort management,' then #6, dressed to kill, she offered $1,900. for the 1 Grand Bliss Week and one 'Other,"
NO. She sashayed ahead of us to gifting where we were given
Maintenance Fee Reimbursement for an owned timeshare (almost worthless bongo bucks that had to be spent as 'partial payment' on some site for savings off hotels, cruises, mechandise and more provided by International Cruise and Excursion Gallery - ICE, dba Vida Lifestyle) didn't give even one ten the the amount promised. Reminds me of the SFX savings account..... I know SFX is 'connected' with VIDANTA, VIDANTA provides them exchange inventory for sales leads.
Free R/T airline ticket back to PVR or wherever (One of those certs that you have to pay $75 non-refundable/ticket to activate and maybe in the off season they'll get you a flight where you pay the taxes and the max base fare is $400). Provided bt Grand Incentives.
Free resort week (1BR must pay non-refundable registration fee of $125 plus resort taxes, parking fees, resort fees of $5-$40/night) Provided by all sorts of names Journey Eight, Take a Getaway, Time Travel of Pompano Beach, etc; yes it's an offer to sell timeshare.
We were then directed out a door and up a ramp that left us nowhere with no clue as to where to go to get the taxi back to civilization. Finally flagged down a golf cart type 'bus' which took us to a parking and taxi depot. Taxi driver tried to charge us more that the normal fare mis-quoting from the pre-printed matrix which did have the correct fare.
I did enjoy the tours to San Sebastian and Sayulita.
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