I never understood the "PIC" thing and how and what they do. What if your PICs did disappear? How would that affect you and your Wyndham account?Anyone else have this issue? I had sales ask what I would do if my PICs disappeared? It had better not have been him. I'm in Orlando now. Maybe I should skip my flight and find the answer.
She loses her current VIP status. Either she goes down or loses it altogether depending on how many points she has. I believe she is platinum, so she would be bumped down to silver. There was no reason for her to lose them. Her PICs were not bought by another resort or Wyndham, so they are still eligible. I’m not sure how a sales guy would have the power to make PICs disappear, unless he called someone at corporate and said she didn’t own those weeks (which she does). This is one of many reasons I avoid sales presentations. They are vindictive.I never understood the "PIC" thing and how and what they do. What if your PICs did disappear? How would that affect you and your Wyndham account?
Is there an incentive for Wyndham allowing owners to count PICs toward VIP status? What does Wyndham get out of it? Is this something Wyndham can terminate with a policy change. I would think/hope Wyndham would grandfather them if they were to eliminate PICs.
I still see my two PIC contracts listed in the My Ownership area. If this is what you're referring to, then I'm not seeing the same issue.Anyone else have this issue? I had sales ask what I would do if my PICs disappeared? It had better not have been him. I'm in Orlando now. Maybe I should skip my flight and find the answer.
There is no reason to believe they would take that away from current owners. Not sure about future owners after the changes take effect. We will ask about PIC at the annual owners' meeting, and see what they say. Last year someone asked if PIC was going away and they said there were no plans to do away with PIC. We'll see if they say the same this year.I have no desire to be VIP. However, if I did, I'd go either PIC or telesales. Because of the new Privileges program, I'm unsure if one could still be VIP with PIC or telesales. Anybody know?
I called as soon as I got off the airplane. lol They have no idea why they disappeared. I did have a resale leave last night as well. I had been counting contracts for awhile but the glaring SILVER OWNER hit me before I even got there. I was pretty grumpy about my Platinum Owner showing as expiring. My husband said "Bet that you wished you were still seeing that." loldid you call?
What are the benefit differences for Silver, gold, and platinum?Silver is completely pointless. Most inventory 60 days out is already discounted at least 25%, except some weekends. PIC to Gold for 27k or Platinum for 65k are the only purchases that remotely make sense if VIP matches your lifestyle, but most people with that kind of money don't have that kind of availability to go on a bunch of last minute vacations. I wonder how many people finance their purchases with home equity or unsecured loans...
The directory has it spelled out. I agree that silver is only a minimal step up from Non-VIP and is definitely not worth spending the $60k some people pay for it. I got so much more value out of Gold with the extra time to roll points forward, unlimited reservation transaction credits, better upgrade priority, bigger discounts, etc. I may go platinum one day, but not in a hurry even with the increase. We want to do some upgrades and remodeling in our home. It may be a 2-3 years before we go Platinum. Hopefully they will still be doing Piggyback contracts by then. I am not going to buy 400,000 points in one shot just to go platinum unless the majority of it is in a piggyback contract.What are the benefit differences for Silver, gold, and platinum?
Silver 25% off 60 days out, unlimited HK, upgrades 30 days out, 5 guest certs, 6 months point depositWhat are the benefit differences for Silver, gold, and platinum?
Did you actually drop the qualifying developer purchase(s) for the PIC Plus contracts? If so that’s probably why this happened. From what I’ve gathered the PIC Plus contracts are tied to the qualifying developer contract as the parent to the child PIC Plus contracts. If you drop the parent developer contract, the system will then convert the PIC Plus contracts to “Limited Membership” contracts which means the PIC Plus contracts are subject to expiration after five years just like PIC Express contracts. I learned about this a couple months ago when a close friend of mine was told he could enroll PIC properties via PIC Plus without a qualifying developer purchase for a $2395 fee. This legal verbiage is actually spelled out in the PIC Plus contract as “Limited Membership.”So I had a couple of reservations eating all of my 2019 points. When I first saw that the contract had left, I had a 0 point balance. Not long after I had -400,000 (which I expected.) So even though I told them to cancel those reservations, I did it myself so now I have a bit over half million in 2019 so the negative 400k was taken care of. It was a CWA that left and I had brought in the PICs with CWA so maybe someone thought that I had gotten rid of the contract that brought in the PICs (not that it would matter as I have other direct contracts.)
Would love to get to see you in Austin!I might have to fly into Austin after all.
No I got rid of a resale CWA so it couldn't have brought in the PICs if it wanted to. But I had that huge mess with the rescission and people building the account and tearing down the account. It took five weeks to get it as close to correct as it ever came. So maybe they attached the PICs to the resale CWA as an oversight. Or it said that it came in with CWA and someone just dropped them without actually looking at the contract numbers.Although they probably could re-associate the PIC contracts with other retail purchases if you got rid of the parent PIC contract, would they? Especially if you bought 7 million in resale they could assume you weren't planing on buying more retail without a good reason. So the question now is was the CWA that you got rid of the one associated with the PIC contacts?