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MR Points took us to Japan!

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We just got back from 10 fabulous days in Japan. We used 2 world trip certificates to take our family of five. We used United miles we already had and with the additional miles were able to get 3 BC and 2 economy tickets, plus we had 2 rooms at the Tokyo Ginza Courtyard. I will be posting complete details on the International BB. I thought I would do a short post here just to tell what great things you can do with MR points. This trip would have cost us $27,000 for the airfare, and the hotel would have cost $500 a night for both rooms plus a 10% tax. One world trip certificate came form our t/s points, and the other from our MR visa. We would have never done a trip like this without our MR points. :D
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Wow, I'm impressed! Good for you!!

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Congratulations-we did a similar thing in February.

We used MR points for a trip to Thailand earlier this year. We earned 90% of the points from our purchase of Aruba and Thailand. We used the points for two travel packages-a category 6 and a category 7 (7) night certificates pkus a ton of AA miles.

The trip included (2) First Class tickets from BWI-Bangkok. These were award tickets with the AA miles. Total value of $30,000 (similar to the OP). Four nights at Marriott Bangkok Resort and Spa on points and our week at the Phuket Beach Club.

We still have our (2) seven night certificates left that Marriott will extend every year as long as I call them before expiring.

In addition, the trip we initially took to Phuket when we bought our timeshare was through a getaway purchase with my M-I-L's II account. (We didnt have any timeshares ourselves at the time.) When we bought Phuket in 2005, we had to wait until 2006 to occupy because we bought pre-construction Phase II. Our compensation for this was a 5 night certificate at a Ritz Carlton. We use it a Laguna Niguel. Total value of this $2500.00.

Great deal all the way around.

OP: Which airline did you use???
 
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How exciting for you and memories for life! You've discovered what all the resale buyers can't understand. Congrats.

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We used two world trip packages, 250,000 points each. One came from points from our MR visa, the other from our Marriott t/s. We flew on United, booked 331 days out to get BC, but economy seats where much easier to get.
We still have enough points left to do a trip next summer, maybe an Alaskan cruise.
We used our points in 2002 to do a 2 week trip for our family to England. We stayed at Marriott County Hall in London (across from Big Ben), and at Barnsdale CC for a week.
The gotten great advice from TUG, and we just wouldn't take these kind of trips without our t/s and MR points.
Next trip, Marriott Ko'olina in October.
Darlene
 
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mrvker: Loved Phuket! Our trip using MR points and also Starwood was five weeks in Singapore, Thailand and Cambodia. We stayed 3 nights in Marriott Singapore,then took an Orient Express (that used to have MR point usage) to Bangkok, flew to Marriott PHuket for a week then to Marriott Bangkok on the river (great hotel!) for five nights, cheated a little and stayed in a Starwood hotel in Chiang-Mai, no-name in Chiang-Rai and ended with five nights in a Starwood Le Meridien in Cambodia. Have NEVER regretted going the Marriott Reward route in our original purchase. Years ago we did the Big Trip to Sydney, Australia. :)
 

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mrvker: Loved Phuket! Our trip using MR points and also Starwood was five weeks in Singapore, Thailand and Cambodia. We stayed 3 nights in Marriott Singapore,then took an Orient Express (that used to have MR point usage) to Bangkok, flew to Marriott PHuket for a week then to Marriott Bangkok on the river (great hotel!) for five nights, cheated a little and stayed in a Starwood hotel in Chiang-Mai, no-name in Chiang-Rai and ended with five nights in a Starwood Le Meridien in Cambodia. Have NEVER regretted going the Marriott Reward route in our original purchase. Years ago we did the Big Trip to Sydney, Australia. :)

The Phuket Marriott has got to be in the top 5 in world. Its hard to believe the hotel at this property is only a category 5. The Phuket Beach club enjoys all of the amenities of the hotel-ncluding pool usage. (Unlike Surf Club that doesn't let you use the hotel's pool.) The pools are some of the finest in the world getting to 10 feet deep. They even have daily house keeping in the timeshare section-under all circumstances-II trade, regular reservation, or normal week usage. THEY EVEN WASH ANY DIRTY DISHES IN THE KITCHEN DAILY!!

We use our Aruba Surf Club every year and Phuket every 2 years. If Phuket was easier to get to, it would be the other way around.

I encourage EVERYONE to try and get there. You will not be dissapointed.
 
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We used two world trip packages, 250,000 points each. One came from points from our MR visa, the other from our Marriott t/s. We flew on United, booked 331 days out to get BC, but economy seats where much easier to get.
We still have enough points left to do a trip next summer, maybe an Alaskan cruise.
We used our points in 2002 to do a 2 week trip for our family to England. We stayed at Marriott County Hall in London (across from Big Ben), and at Barnsdale CC for a week.
The gotten great advice from TUG, and we just wouldn't take these kind of trips without our t/s and MR points.
Next trip, Marriott Ko'olina in October.
Darlene


Did United allow you to hold the award tickets before ordering the travel packages? I went with AA because they allowed a two week hold (recently reduced to one week) where they will hold the award seats for you in a reservation and give you time for the transfer.

This gives one comfort so that you are not committing your points to the airline without knowing you have the seats you need. FYI-even though it was only reduced to a week hold by AA, that is still plenty of time for the Marriott transfer.
 

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mrvker: Agree on all plus there is a Thai Cooking Class that is superb; an onsite baby elephant; gourmet restaurants; coffee cafe; grocery store; and I can go on and on.

The only drawback was us leaving bread and cereal in their sacks on the sink and the ants got them. Lesson learned for us!
 

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mrvker: Agree on all plus there is a Thai Cooking Class that is superb; an onsite baby elephant; gourmet restaurants; coffee cafe; grocery store; and I can go on and on.

The only drawback was us leaving bread and cereal in their sacks on the sink and the ants got them. Lesson learned for us!

I forgot about the elephants! They now have two elephants: Jumbo and Yum Yum.

I regret not doing the Thai cooking school and plan to on our next visit.

How about the breakfast buffet at the Marriott Cafe? Its the best I have ever enjoyed. :clap:
 

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No, United did not allow us to hold the seats, and then transfer the points. They did allow us to hold the outbound, and then search for a return. I had been watching reward availability, and had several dates to choose from. On the way back, we were on a 747 that was easier to get reward seats. on the way there, we were on a wait list for BC on a 777. Economy sold out, so they were glad to move us up to BC.
What a great trip to SE Asia! I love to hear about trips with MR points. It is so wonderful to think of the possibilities! Wow, 5 weeks! I think I would like to do a SE Asia trip with a week in Hawaii on both ends!
Darlene
 

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Wow, this is the sort of story that gets my wife and I talking! We have two young ones so it would take lots of planning and points to get us anywhere, esp w/ trips requiring airline flights (there are 4 of us, not just 2).

Questions:
What is a "world trip certificate" ??? Sounds like maybe this is something we maybe able to use for Hong Kong or Australia ?

How many miles needed for all of your five tickets? Maybe I am counting wrong, but looking at:
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,,1142,00.html
Each BC (from US) is 90k and economy is 60k. So I count 90k x 3 + 60k x 2 = 390k ff miles needed. Two world trip certificates at 250k MRP's each give you close to this many ff miles?

Did all of you fly on the same flights??? This seems impossible!!!

If all flew on the same flight, what was your backup plan if you could not get all seats using miles?
 
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Winger,
Do you have a Marriott Rewards account? When you buy Marriott from Marriott you can trade your timeshare for points (instead of using it). When you have enough points, you can use them for trips, airfare, all kinds of stuff. If you go to the Marriott website, you can take the link to Marriott Rewards. A world trip is a package where you get points deposited into an airline reward program, and a Marriott hotel room for 7 nights. The package I got deposited 120,000 miles into my United account, and since I had enough MR points, I got 2 travel packages or 240,000 miles into my United account. We already had enough miles in our 5 different United accounts to add the additional 150,000 miles, plus you can buy miles from United. We would have been fine with coach tickets which would have been only 300,000 miles, but BC is well worth it on long flights. Yes, we were all on the same flight. I did not have a back-up plan for reward seats, I always planned on getting our seats with miles. I had additional flights, dates, etc. In fact, my son was waitlisted for a latter flight returning (2 hours later that ours), but about a month before our trip he was cleared to fly back with us. We could have split into 3 and 2, and all flown BC on different flights, but we decided to try and be on the same flights.
The main reason we used two World trip packages is because of the hotel. Hotels in Japan are very small, and only allow 2 adults/room, and 1 child at most. Our rooms had two twin beds, and a rollaway for my daughter.
 
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Winger,
Do you have a Marriott Rewards account? When you buy Marriott from Marriott you can trade your timeshare for points (instead of using it). When you have enough points, you can use them for trips, airfare, all kinds of stuff. If you go to the Marriott website, you can take the link to Marriott Rewards. A world trip is a package where you get points deposited into an airline reward program, and a Marriott hotel room for 7 nights. The package I got deposited 120,000 miles into my United account, and since I had enough MR points, I got 2 travel packages or 240,000 miles into my United account. We already had enough miles in our 5 different United accounts to add the additional 150,000 miles, plus you can buy miles from United. We would have been fine with coach tickets which would have been only 300,000 miles, but BC is well worth it on long flights. Yes, we were all on the same flight. I did not have a back-up plan for reward seats, I always planned on getting our seats with miles. I had additional flights, dates, etc. In fact, my son was waitlisted for a latter flight returning (2 hours later that ours), but about a month before our trip he was cleared to fly back with us. We could have split into 3 and 2, and all flown BC on different flights, but we decided to try and be on the same flights.
The main reason we used two World trip packages is because of the hotel. Hotels in Japan are very small, and only allow 2 adults/room, and 1 child at most. Our rooms had two twin beds, and a rollaway for my daughter.

Hi Darlene. OF COURSE we have MR Acct and like you we bought resale through Marriott to take advantage of the trade-in-for MRP's option every year if we like. Give me a HIGH FIVE !!! :D :D :D

I see, you basically traded MRP's for two air-hotel travel packages. I thought the "world trip package" was something totally different, maybe a new type of award. Also, you staying 10 days (NOT a multiple 7, you know the standard air-hotel award package includes 7-night stay hotel certificates) threw me off. So if I understand correctly, you basically got two 7-night hotel certificates and you added a few nights on your own.

I also see now you got the additional 150k ff points on your own (to add to the two travel packages' 120k ff pts each, = 2x 120k = 240k) to come up with the required 390k ff miles required for the trip.

Thanks for explaining - again AWESOME TRIP and use of points. As stated earlier, my wife and I talked and now she REALLY wants to take the family to Hong Kong. Since we have friends there whom we can stay with (actually one even has an unused apartment (well off dad, I heard) ), we can maybe take three weeks off and spend two in Hong Kong and stopover in Japan for a week. There, we can use one hotel certificate (from the air-hotel travel package we will redeem for this sort of trip) in Japan.

Oh boy !!!
 
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Hi Darlene. OF COURSE we have MR Acct and like you we bought resale through Marriott to take advantage of the trade-in-for MRP's option every year if we like HIGH FIVE !!! :D :D :D

I see, you basicall got an air-hotel travel package. I thought the "world trip package" was something totally different, maybe a new type of award. Also, you staying 10 days (NOT a multiple 7, you know the standard air-hotel award package includes 7-night stay hotel certificates) threw me off. So if I understand correctly, you basically got two 7-night hotel certificates and you added a few nights on your own.

I also see now you got the additional 150k ff points on your own (to add to the two travel packages' 120k ff pts each, = 2x 120k = 240k) to come up with the required 390k ff miles required for the trip.

Thanks for explaining - again AWESOME TRIP and use of points. As stated earlier, my wife and I talked and now she REALLY wants to take the family to Hong Kong. Since we have friends there whom we can stay with (actually one even has an unused apartment (well off dad, I heard) ), we can maybe take three weeks off and spend two in Hong Kong and stopover in Japan for a week. There, we can use one hotel certificate (from the air-hotel travel package we will redeem for this sort of trip) in Japan.

Oh boy !!!

You are correct the airline miles plus the seven night certificate for one hotel is what Marriott calls the "Hotel + Air". You get many more miles by transferring the a US based airline vs foreign.

https://www.marriott.com/rewards/usepoints/morepack.mi

They are a great deal. I wasn't as involved with Marriott when you could purchase unlimited points. It would be an awesome deal to purchase the points needed to get a travel package and premium international seats.
 

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You are correct the airline miles plus the seven night certificate for one hotel is what Marriott calls the "Hotel + Air". You get many more miles by transferring the a US based airline vs foreign.

https://www.marriott.com/rewards/usepoints/morepack.mi

They are a great deal. I wasn't as involved with Marriott when you could purchase unlimited points. It would be an awesome deal to purchase the points needed to get a travel package and premium international seats.
By next spring break, we would have already taken our family of four to Hawaii twice. Although we did not use BC or FC, we feel we got good value using the air-hotel package! If we did go FC, the value would have been even greater, but since we went diff airlines (I go w/ my 4yo daughter, DW goes with the 5yo son) it was hard to just have the 'parents' go FC and leave the young child in economy by himself.
 

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By next spring break, we would have already taken our family of four to Hawaii twice. Although we did not use BC or FC, we feel we got good value using the air-hotel package! If we did go FC, the value would have been even greater, but since we went diff airlines (I go w/ my 4yo daughter, DW goes with the 5yo son) it was hard to just have the 'parents' go FC and leave the young child in economy by himself.

I think econ seats are great too. The 1st class tix are more of an artificial value. I couldn't consider paying $15000 for a first class ticket that we got for free.
 

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I think econ seats are great too. The 1st class tix are more of an artificial value. I couldn't consider paying $15000 for a first class ticket that we got for free.

$15000 for a fc ticket??? are you serious? i seen them around $4k to asia a few yrs back, maybe i have not looked lately.
 

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I wouldn't use BC or FC for domestic flights. It is definitely worth it on 10+ hour flights. We used points to upgrade a flight back from Hawaii to BC, but it isn't worth it IMHO, better to save your points for Europe, Australia, or Asia flights. BC tickets to Japan are about $8,000, and $15,000 for FC. I imagine it's the same for Europe. We actually only used the Marriott for 5 nights, we stayed in Kyoto in a ryokan for 4 nights. My trip review is under Internation BB.
 

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When comparing the actual cost of flying vs the number of points required, there is a huge difference, but variable by area, class, and time taken to get there.

This chart might show you the differences, based on UA FF miles Saver Chart vs lowest costs (for next April) to fly there.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg227/pwrshift/FFMilesvsCOST.jpg?t=1217814817

Example: domestic flights JFK to LAX would cost $468 econ or $1888 for biz ... a 303% increase in dollar cost. Using FF miles, it takes 25k for econ or 45k for biz ... a 80% difference in FF miles.

Flying to Sydney from JFK in economy (can you imagine?) would cost $1694 while biz would cost $8237 - that's a 382% increase in dollar cost. Using UA FF miles econ would take 80k FF miles and biz would take 110k but that's only a 38% increase in FF miles.

Flying to Kauai from JFK in economy would cost $1259 and biz would cost $2476 .. a 96% increase in dollar cost. But using points isn't as good, with econ taking 35k FF miles and biz taking 75k FF miles -- a 114% increase in FF miles.

First class, on 3 class airlines, costs even more in dollars and FF miles, but the relative increases are even more favourable for FF miles. And, yes, there are $15,000 flights in first!

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Your trip is an excellent example of why there is a definite value in points. Instead of paying those kind of prices (+$15,000) for just ONE trip, we put the same amount towards our purchase from Marriott so that we could get the points to have MANY such trips in the future. It sounds like you had an amazing trip!
 

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Not to try and hijack the thread, but next summer, using Marriott awards gathered from Visa and timeshare purchases, we are going to spend five nights in Dublin, at the Shelbourne http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/dubbr-the-shelbourne-dublin-a-renaissance-hotel/, and seven nights in London at the Chancery Court, http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/loncc-renaissance-chancery-court-london/. We may change the latter as more hotels become available with points. The County Hall was available, but I didn't want it because it is too touristy, and I don't care for its location. I would prefer to be at GS, GH, or Park Lane.

We are going to fly on British Air out of Chicago. BA wouldn't allow us to reserve until Marriott had deposited the points. For an extra 100,000 points we could have upgraded our seats, but I decided not to.
 

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We stayed at the Shelbourne in September and loved it. I'm sure you will too. It's an older hotel across from St. Stephen's Green that's fully remodeled and offers first class service. The doormen wear tails and tophats. It only took about a day for them to learn our names and they greeted us every time we entered the hotel. Great ambiance.

The hotel dining is very expensive but there are a few pubs within walking distance. Behind the hotel there is a museum devoted to Irish literature. They had a Yeats exhibit at the time.

Five days in Dublin is just about right. We also used our MR points. A night at the Shelbourne is expensive.
 
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