Modify feature

[Fido Chuckwagon]

I'm wondering if I screwed up here. I was trying to get Club Wyndham Anaheim at the 10 month mark for June 29 - July 4th. On August 27th I saw that there were only 2 units left for the 27th - 4th so I figured, no problem, I'd grab the 27th - 4th and just use the modify feature later to remove the first two nights. Out of curiosity, today being the 28th, I went online to see if it would let me modify to remove the first night, and that is not showing up as an option. I have the option to add nights at the beginning, but not remove them. Did I screw something up here? My only other option seems to be to just cancel tomorrow and try to rebook hoping it comes back into inventory but then I might end up with nothing...

 

[paxsarah]

Maybe wait until all nights are fully inside 10 months and then it might let you remove some? That's a wild guess.

 

[Roger830]

When you saw nights available in August, was that with the calendar search?

If so, then you are probably seeing is arp inventory available for those with cwa points that can book at 13 months. This seems to be a recently added undocumented feature.

A new week starts Sunday for Friday August 20 and Monday for Saturday. Try then.

 

[Floridaman76]

Something else you can do is set up a waitlist request, and if it comes up, book that, then cancel the original booking.

Currently waitlist is free...

Also like someone else suggested, wait till the 10 months hits and try again.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

When you saw nights available in August, was that with the calendar search?

If so, then you are probably seeing is arp inventory available for those with cwa points that can book at 13 months. This seems to be a recently added undocumented feature.

A new week starts Sunday for Friday August 20 and Monday for Saturday. Try then.

Sorry, I think my post was confusingly worded. The nights I want are June 29 - July 4th. Right at the 10 month window. On August 27th (Yesterday) I grabbed June 27 - July 4th with the intention of using the modify feature to remove the first two nights once we get into the standard reservation window. Today, 10 months out from June 28th, i checked out of curiosity and the modify feature does not allow me to rmeove the evening of June 27th (but it lets me add up to 3 nights on the front end). So I am left witht he option of:

1. At midnight tonight cancelling the reservaiton and hoping it comes immmediatly back so I can rebook it; or
2. Waiting per @chapjim s suggestion until next week until the whole thing falls into the standard reservation window to see if i can modify it at that point.

Both ways are a bit of a gamble.

 

[Roger830]

Sorry, I think my post was confusingly worded. The nights I want are June 29 - July 4th. Right at the 10 month window. On August 27th (Yesterday) I grabbed June 27 - July 4th with the intention of using the modify feature to remove the first two nights once we get into the standard reservation window. Today, 10 months out from June 28th, i checked out of curiosity and the modify feature does not allow me to rmeove the evening of June 27th (but it lets me add up to 3 nights on the front end). So I am left witht he option of:

1. At midnight tonight cancelling the reservaiton and hoping it comes immmediatly back so I can rebook it; or
2. Waiting per @chapjim s suggestion until next week until the whole thing falls into the standard reservation window to see if i can modify it at that point.

Both ways are a bit of a gamble.

Yeh, I knew what you wanted but was thrown off by the August date and opened my calendar to the wrong month in 2027.

I have checked in the past and have never seen a reservation return that quick since they started discourage cancel and rebook.

Good luck

 

[CO skier]

I was trying to get Club Wyndham Anaheim at the 10 month mark for June 29 - July 4th. On August 27th I saw that there were only 2 units left for the 27th - 4th so I figured, no problem, I'd grab the 27th - 4th and just use the modify feature later to remove the first two nights. Out of curiosity, today being the 28th, I went online to see if it would let me modify to remove the first night, and that is not showing up as an option.

Club Wyndham Anaheim is all CWA inventory. If you booked the reservation using something other than CWA then June 28th and following is still inside the ARP booking window (or outside the 10-month booking window) on August 27th. The modified reservation cannot start on a date that was outside of the 10-month booking window at the time the original reservation was booked.

Book a reservation for June 27-July 4 on August 29th, and there would be no issue modifying the reservation to drop June 27th or both June 27th and 28th, because both those dates were within the 10-month booking window at the time of the original reservation.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

The modified reservation cannot start on a date that was outside of the 10-month booking window at the time the original reservation was booked.

Yeah, this was the rule that I was unaware of. I guess I need to cancel it tomorrow and hope that I can rebook it?

 

[Sandi Bo]

Sorry, I think my post was confusingly worded. The nights I want are June 29 - July 4th. Right at the 10 month window. On August 27th (Yesterday) I grabbed June 27 - July 4th with the intention of using the modify feature to remove the first two nights once we get into the standard reservation window. Today, 10 months out from June 28th, i checked out of curiosity and the modify feature does not allow me to rmeove the evening of June 27th (but it lets me add up to 3 nights on the front end). So I am left witht he option of:

1. At midnight tonight cancelling the reservaiton and hoping it comes immmediatly back so I can rebook it; or
2. Waiting per @chapjim s suggestion until next week until the whole thing falls into the standard reservation window to see if i can modify it at that point.

Both ways are a bit of a gamble.

I have had trouble with the modify feature working. A couple times now it hasn't let me modify the front end. Once I called and the VC said that isn't an option. I know we should be able to, I just gave up arguing, cancelled and rebooked successfully (phew).

 

[Floridaman76]

Yeah, this was the rule that I was unaware of. I guess I need to cancel it tomorrow and hope that I can rebook it?

I did not know this either. Interesting.

 

[dioxide45]

I did not know this either. Interesting.

Is it a rule published somewhere, or just how the system functions?

 

[CO skier]

Is it a rule published somewhere, or just how the system functions?

Not every "rule" in Club Wyndham is published. The published Club guidelines (rules) only reference modifying reservations to add nights.

The "unwritten" rule makes perfect sense (someone in IT was actually thinking ahead, for a change), and that is what matters. Without it, some owners would quickly learn how to "game" the system to get a week or so jump on the 10-month reservation window for the "best" reservations still available at 10 months when points are points, and then modify (trim) the reservation to just the dates they want.

 

[CO skier]

My only other option seems to be to just cancel tomorrow and try to rebook hoping it comes back into inventory but then I might end up with nothing...

Two other options to guarantee your vacation:

1) Arrive 2 nights earlier than originally planned and use the whole June 27 - July 4.

2) Keep the reservation and just arrive on June 29th as originally planned -- throwing away the first two nights, but getting exactly what you want. (This is a well-known, but seldom used, strategy in WorldMark.) Just be sure to call the resort a few days before arrival to inform about the late arrival.

 

[Sandi Bo]

I still say, the modify feature is buggy…

I booked these in the last week, so nothing to do with ARP or other perceived “unwritten” rules…

I should be able to adjust the start date and I cannot

On the following reservation, I can. I’m guessing the bug (1st example) has something to do with not having other days proceeding the check-in date? In the second example, there is a room the night before if I wanted to add it on and so now it’s also letting me drop a day..

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[Fido Chuckwagon]

So I cancelled it this morning. It didn’t come right back. I attempted to use the waitlist feature. It wouldn’t let me use the waitlist feature because it kept returning a message of “your room is available to book right now,” but when I clicked “book now” it wasn’t. After about 5 minutes of trying this, the room came back into inventory and I booked it for the nights I wanted. Thanks all for the advice.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Two other options to guarantee your vacation:

1) Arrive 2 nights earlier than originally planned and use the whole June 27 - July 4.

2) Keep the reservation and just arrive on June 29th as originally planned -- throwing away the first two nights, but getting exactly what you want. (This is a well-known, but seldom used, strategy in WorldMark.) Just be sure to call the resort a few days before arrival to inform about the late arrival.

Thanks. #1 woudln’t work because this is a split stay vacation where I”m spending the first 5 nights at Club Wyndham Oceanside Pier and then moving on to Anaheim for the second half of the trip. DIdn’t realize #2 was an option since I thought they would just cancel automatically if i didn’t check in on day 1, but good to know for the future.

 

[jp10558]

Thanks. #1 woudln’t work because this is a split stay vacation where I”m spending the first 5 nights at Club Wyndham Oceanside Pier and then moving on to Anaheim for the second half of the trip. DIdn’t realize #2 was an option since I thought they would just cancel automatically if i didn’t check in on day 1, but good to know for the future.

I am not too sure about how in general #2 works - I know supposedly most resorts probably don't care as long as you let them know you're not a total no-show - you paid after all. But I feel a lot more comfortable leaving early than arriving 2 days late (i.e. getting there "after midnight" has to be somewhat common given travel randomness with planes etc, but 2 days late probably isn't. So I may not count on it in all situations.

 

[CO skier]

DIdn’t realize #2 was an option since I thought they would just cancel automatically if i didn’t check in on day 1, but good to know for the future.

I am not too sure about how in general #2 works - I know supposedly most resorts probably don't care as long as you let them know you're not a total no-show - you paid after all.

There is a 48-hour limit to the check-in grace period

 

[Floridaman76]

The "unwritten" rule makes perfect sense (someone in IT was actually thinking ahead, for a change), and that is what matters. Without it, some owners would quickly learn how to "game" the system to get a week or so jump on the 10-month reservation window for the "best" reservations still available at 10 months when points are points, and then modify (trim) the reservation to just the dates they want.

I had thought about this before, but just with a day or two at the front.

Since they only let you modify a reservation ONCE, and you can only add or subtract 3 nights from either side, this would not let someone get a week out of it in practice.

But yeah, i'm sure someone would definitely game the system