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Saw a sign by the Whalers for Marriott it stated in part "six beneficial use shares" for a one bedroom every other year use $13,900.

Can anyone explain to me what this means checked at one of the Marriott path booths and the guy had no idea..

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My guess is they are referring to BIs, Beneficial Interests. Each BI is 250 points. Six BIs would equal 1500 points. Every other year you would have 3000 points by banking or borrowing. I guess you can get a 1BR at MOC for 3000 DC points.
 

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I will be at the MOC in a couple of weeks so if anyone has any requests please let me know.

Also, I plan on doing the DC "presentation" as I haven't done one yet...just to see what the sales guys say. So if anyone has any questions they'd like me to put to them then PM me and I'll make a list.
 

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I will be at the MOC in a couple of weeks so if anyone has any requests please let me know.

Also, I plan on doing the DC "presentation" as I haven't done one yet...just to see what the sales guys say. So if anyone has any questions they'd like me to put to them then PM me and I'll make a list.

Just did a points presentation with a sales guy with 1 year experience. He said among other things legacy points and trust points are now one in the same, is that true? He said this changed recently and I asked for it in writing and he said you could ask the front desk. The guy had difficulty dealing with such an experienced owner and got a little smug with me trying to tell me something I didn't know. Please confirm if anyone can because I'd love to call him and tell him he's wrong.
 

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Just did a points presentation with a sales guy with 1 year experience. He said among other things legacy points and trust points are now one in the same, is that true? He said this changed recently and I asked for it in writing and he said you could ask the front desk. The guy had difficulty dealing with such an experienced owner and got a little smug with me trying to tell me something I didn't know. Please confirm if anyone can because I'd love to call him and tell him he's wrong.

Theoretically, no, they are not one in the same. However, with more point purchasers now exchanging through the exchange company, it is easier to get what was once trust inventory. Though that inventory is now in the exchange company.

The problem is that the line you were given contradicts the "buy trust points to super charge your legacy points". Which one to believe?:shrug: . Saying they are all the same doesn't really help sell trust points since you can just say "well if that is the case, I am sure I will be plenty happy with my legacy points" :D
 

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I was told the same thing at my presentation in January. It is so hard, you don't know who to beleive....

I wrote to my salesguy, and this was his response. Apparently, there will be some motion at the levels of which most of us are members:


"There aren’t any properties where all of the inventory is in the trust. That will happen when we build a new resort, where no weeks will be sold.

There are times when you try to make a reservation and there are no inventories in the exchange bucket, but there may be in the trust bucket. That’s where trust points can help you getting an instant reservation. If you only have exchange points, you can get on a waiting list and wait for

1. exchange inventory to become available
2. product supply management to determine that enough of the trust inventory is available where they will fulfill your reservation even though you only have exchange points.

The ultimate goal is to get to a place where “a point is a point is a point”. That will be easier I’m assuming once we bring the Europe weeks into the program, marry in the Asia points program (which both should happen within 12 months), and more and more owners enroll/purchase club points.

Yes, if you have some trust points to get your foot in the door (say get 3 of the 7-nights you need booked, for example), it’s then easier to have the remaining part of the reservation fulfilled using the exchange/legacy points.

If you feel new club points will help in general, overall with your vacationing, then consider another purchase.

But if you feel that the amount of exchange points you can get from your weeks (while still building Rewards points too), can cover your vacations, then you may want to wait and see if you run into any troubles getting what you need. "



So - he says *build* new resorts - I wonder if that covers "acquire" - through them purchasing properties (or rather, having previously independently-owned resorts now pay to fly under the Marriott flag), too. Seems that *building* new places is not so cost effective, and only is happening where there were contracts that force this - otherwise, I hear talk here (where else???) of properties that might be bought or otherwise brought aboard, as above. Me? still waiting to see the MGC Tower 3 built - should be starting soon, if at all.

Mamianka
 

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The only way they can get true 100% trust resorts is to build from the ground up. As I mentioned in a prior thread, if they acquire a resort that is already a TS property, there will likely be owners in those weeks. Those owners will be like us legacy owners. I don't see them buying an empty property, I don't think any would exist. It could be like the Aruba Ocean Club where they acquired a partially completed building, but I would consider that new construction and not an acquisition.
 

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Where is the old order window in relation to this new Starbucks counter?

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Mike
 

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Where is the old order window in relation to this new Starbucks counter?

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Mike

If you look at Gary's picture its on the other side of the windows pretty much where the cashier was previously.
 
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