marriotts at 60 days

[1965]

will my marriott lock off give me
a
(1) bedroom=(2) bedroom
+
studio=(2) bedroom
thru
Interval Marriott
at
(60) days
for certain marriots
still available at 60 days
+
if this is true

do I see Marriotts at (60) days
that
I have never seen at (60) days
with my other timeshares
no matter
how good a trader that timeshare was

 

[kjd]

trading with Marriotts

I think I understand your questions about Marriott and lockoffs. The answer is yes to most of your questions but you must approach it in a way that will give you the most options.

If you look about one year in advance you will find there are usually more options than if you wait. If you lock off your unit you have a better chance of upgrading your selections if you stick to the shoulder or off seasons. You have to lock off first in order to do this. There is a lockoff fee. Then you can shop. The II units under the exchange section of the II web site will show your units as an "un-redeemed deposit".

You can also request first if you have a specific resort in mind but there is no guarantee that the trade will be made. Talking with the II Marriott desk can be helpful in assessing the liklihood of a proposed trade. If you deposit first, you can make the trade at the time you see what you want on the II internet site. There is more availability in some locations compared to others.

The exception is when you get to flextime. During flextime you are liable to see anything. Locations that you could not trade into previously, suddenly appear. If you can vacation on relatively short notice there are some super trades to make during flextime. You usually have to check II often to see the trades you can make during flextime because sometimes they will go quickly. It would not be unusual to see studios trade for two bedrooms.

 

[LAX Mom]

I trade Marriott deposits often during Flexchange. You will be able to see many 2 bedroom units, but the inventory will go quickly. If you are flexible it can be a great option. However, if you want to go to a popular destination during a specific week it can be very tricky!

For instance if you are looking for Waiohai with a July 10 checkin date you may never find it. You'll see other weeks available, but that specific week may never appear. Or if it does get deposited, you might never catch it. If you're looking for something in Flexchange you have to check the computer numerous times daily. The good weeks go fast, within minutes!!

Flexchange with the Marriott priority can get you some great exchanges, but you have to be very diligent and very flexible!!

 

[Big Matt]

Yes to all.

In fact you can see 2BR most of the time with 1BR and some 1 and 2BR with studios all of the time.

Additionally, the ability to see things changes at 90 days also. Very subtle, but I generally see studios pull 1BR when before 90 days only studios could be seen.

You really have to play around with II quite a bit to see the patterns.

 

[Bill4728]

will my marriott lock off give me
a
(1) bedroom=(2) bedroom
+
studio=(2) bedroom
thru Interval Marriott at (60) days for certain marriots still available at 60 days

It depends on where you want to go. If you want a studio to a 2bd trade into Orlando, they you very likley will see that ( because there are many TS in orlando which are only 2 bd ) But in Palm Desert, where most people lock off their units, you likely will see only studios & 1 bds with your studio.

+ if this is true do I see Marriotts at (60) days
that I have never seen at (60) days with my other timeshares no matter
how good a trader that timeshare was

NO, you have great traders ( platinum Palm Desert TSs) they should see everthing which is there. There will not be things which you couldn't see at 70 days that you will be able to see at 59 days.( except the size of the units available may change at <59 days. So, a studio which couldn't see a 2 bedroom at >60 days will generally be able to see it at <59 days)

 

[GregT]

Within Flexchange, do Marriott owners have a time advantage, similar to the 24 day time outside of Flex, before newly deposited Marriotts are available to non-Marriott owners?

I seem to remember from somewhere that there was a 3 day advantage, is that correct?

Please advise and thanks!

 

[lll1929]

Yes, Marriott owners still has an advantage period starting at 3 days but some can be longer.

 

[thinze3]

Marriotts CAN have a 24 day priority at 59 days. I THINK this can change with supply and demand. That priority period is much shorter if the week deposited is closer to the reservation date. For instance, a week depsoited only 30 days from the reservation date may only have a 3 day priority period. The agents at II usually have NO idea what the time period is for any particular week if you ask them.

There have been times when I could see a Marriott unit and wanted to grab it with my non-Marriott unit. The II agent could not even see the week. That is because he/she was using my non-Marriott to search as well. I would explain to the II agent that I knew the Marriott week was available because I could see it with another Marriott unit. The II agent would have NO idea when the Marriott week would become available either.

Terry

 

[Robert D]

Am I correct in assuming that any TS (even the lowest of the low) can see everything at 59 days except the ones subject to the 3 day (or more) priority period for Marriott or other chains? i.e. if you had a terrible trader studio, it would still see all size TS's at 59 days that are not subject to some chain's priority period?

 

[LAX Mom]

Am I correct in assuming that any TS (even the lowest of the low) can see everything at 59 days except the ones subject to the 3 day (or more) priority period for Marriott or other chains? i.e. if you had a terrible trader studio, it would still see all size TS's at 59 days that are not subject to some chain's priority period?

Robert,

There are still some restrictions during Flexchange. A few of the top-rated timeshares won't allow a lesser timeshare to exchange in, even during Flexchange. I don't recall for sure which timeshares maintain restrictions during Flexchange, but I think it's some of the brands like Four Seasons, Fairmont, etc.

Also, there are restrictions on AC's and those are still in effect during Flexchange. For instance Franz Klammer Lodge won't allow an exchange in with an AC, and this still applies during Flexchange.

 

[Dave M]

I agree with LAX Mom. Also, because quality filters are still in place, you probably won't see weeks at resorts that II deems to be significantly inferior to the one you are using for your search.

 

[luv2vacation]

Dave is right, except no probably about it - even in flexchange, those quality filters are there. When I search in flex with mt Marriott studio and my Flagship studio, I see far LESS availability with my Marriott studio - it doesn't show what II deems to be the lower rated resorts.

 

[Robert D]

That's a good point that an inferior resort will see more resorts than a high end resort during flexchange. But I didn't realize that there were some high end resorts that inferior resorts can't get during flexchange - I thought everything was available. Wonder how many and which high end resorts are restricted and what level of resort it takes to see them? II now has 3 levels from what I understand, regular, select, and premier I think. Maybe just the regular level can't see them?

 

[thinze3]

The filters are defiantely there but can be overidden in a ongoing search. Even with the new filters in place beginning in 2008, my CL pulled a 2BR "premier" resort for next spring break at a beachfront resort. II contacted me and offered it to me this weekend. I turned it down because the location was not right.

I, however, was surprised that even though I can no longer see premier resorts online, they continue to be offered through searches. I was happy to even get the offer, as I thought my CL timeshare had diminshed in trading value.


Terry