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For those interested in the materials presented by VAC to the Wall Street security analysts, the following links are to the pdf files of the powerpoint presentations made by various staffers at the October 28 meeting.

Part 1 of 3

[URL="http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/MAR/1423233779x0x512925/7d32a13c-11ee-4ce2-ac0d-2aa00fc28ca2/Presentations%20pt%202%20MVW%20SAM%202011.pdf"]Part 2 of 3
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Part 3 of 3

Of note: SPINCO stock starts trading on a 'when issued' basis on 11/8/11

The materials include lots of information about the business and the customer base; for example, page 22 of part 2 has some DClub enrollment stats.
 

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Jack,

Thanks for posting these --- interesting to see how they are positioning!

Best,

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I don't know about others.... but I sure would be interested in a highlight-summary from someone that enjoys digesting that type of information.... TIA
 

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good morning....

average REPURCHASE cost $17,000, (less than 2K points). Thus the average legacy owner that purchase more points has less than 2000 pts. Since the minimum was 1500, there can't be many Legacy owners with more than 3000 Trust points. Doubt there are many new Trust Purchasers with more than 3000 as well. Therefore many of those primo Trust weeks will be out of range to most Trust owners. My point is that these weeks have to make their way into Exchange Company.... The malarkey regarding, "you need to purchase Trust to supercharge Legacy points" is just horse hockey!!!!

Just ask Superchief!!!!

From personal experience..my Legacy points are working just fine!!!!

Now planning 2013.... The 12 day Princess Mediterranean Cruise for 13K points is looking nice!!!! This books for about $6000 (without the taxes and fees) + the usual 6 day ski trip....
 

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What I find interesting:

According to the chart in Prsentation 1 page slide 4 Spinco will own 100% of the non-US business and own the US business through a holding with a 3rd party investor owning prefered shares in this US holding company. Sounds like they need someone else to provide money for whatever (survival, developing new resorts or whatever?) Who might this be?

Presentation 1 slide 11:

50% of 2010 revenues of 1.3 bln was from sale, 18% from resrot management, 15% from financing timeshares and 15% from rental. So management of our resorts does not sound too important to them?

Slide 20: Strategic priorities includes: "Opportunisticaly dispose of excess assets and selectively pursue "asset light" deal structures" What could that mean? Selling undeveloped land or also selling whole buildings to non-timeshare comapnies? What could Asset light deals be? Find exisitng and close to sold-out resorts to manage?

Slide 21-24:
In North America they plan to complete phases under construction, add new resort inventory or vacation experiences over time and monetize excess undeveloped land. In Asia they plan to add new resort locations (bud do not talk about building). In Europe they try to sell out existin resorts by 2015 and continue to manage them (doesn't sound like building e.g. Tuscany). Luxury (Ritz) will monetize excess inventory and undeveloped land and expand through affiliations.

Does not sound like they will build too much in the future...

Page 18 (of pdf document):

2011 planned revenue slightly higher than 2009 and 2010 but still way below 2008 or even 2007.

Page 21:

2011 planned net income negative 162 -169 mln manily due to impairment charge of 324 mln. Sounds like they had to write down inventory or land values. Expect to be profitbale (41 - 44) mln again in 2012.

Presentation 2 is about how great the resorts are and:

Page 11 (of pdf):

365,000 owners with 550,000 weeks
83,000 owners enrolled 153,000 weeks

23% of owners enrolled, this is way more than I would have expected.

$46 mln cash from enrollment fees

So average enrollment fee per enrolled owner was $554. Sounds like most enrollers had bought from the developer and lots of owners only enrolled one week.

Of weeks owners who tour onsite: 47% enrolled and 30% bought additional points, average purchase amount was $17,000.

I can absolutely not believe these numbers! But assuming I would not know of the resale market and had spent > $30,000 for my timeshare the $495 enrollment fee sounds cheap for the additional options....

Presentation 3:

Slide 58:

Owner profile: 95% are homeowners, average household income $150.000, 80% college educated, 75% married, average age 56 years

Slide 64:

9 in 10 tour participants experience high satisfaction according to 35 question survey to all tour participants (I did never have to answer these?!?)

Slide 65:

Volume per contract is around $24,000 in 2011. Revenue per tour is about $2,600. (Wow!)

Slide 75:

North American invesntory strategy includes:

Complete existing projects
Opportunistically reaquire inventory (ROFR)
Acquire distresse developer inventory (sounds like adding new resorts built by other developers)

Build new projects where justified, Asset Light, Turnkey, Greenfield (Whatver all this means?)

Slide 76:

Currently $320 mln North America inventory completed with a expected contrct (sales) value of $840 mln

Slide 77:

Asia Pacific Inventory Strategy:
Complete existing projects
Opportunistically reaquire inventory
Partnerships, Turnkey projects and Co-located properties

Slide 85:

"Balanced Growth" includes:

Strategic Alliances and new brands

Slide 90:

Financing of timeshare sales: Typical COupon 12,5% - 13,5%, borrowers average FICO score 737.

Who in his right mind with good credit would take out a loan at 12,5% for 10 years???

Slide 100:

Sales of timeshare weeks/points are lower in 2011 than in 2010 and 2009

Slide 102:

Marketing and sales expenses as percentage of contract sales have peaked in 2009 at 56%, now down to 50% with a target of 42%-46%

Slide 103:

Margin (profit left over from sales) now 9%-13%, long term goal 20%. Bottom was only 2% in 2009, 2007 was 15%

This is way less than I would have expected.

Slide 109:

Marriott royalty fee is $50 mln per year plus 2% of contract sales. (Wow!)

The management income of 60-70 mln does at least cover the royalty :D


Funny thing about the presentation is that slides talking about Europe have pictures of US resorts and vice versa. So Markeing / IR people seem not to know the resort portfolio too well...

My conclusion:

Although I love the product, I see no reason to buy Spinco Shares.
 

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good afternoon....

Still make to my original point...

Average sale per contract $24,000 (about 2200) points. Minimum is 1500. Just don't think there will be lot's o' competition for the primo weeks (Trust or Inventory) with the average Trust owner only having 2000 pts. The Legacy owner with a nice portfolio can sit tight with either weeks or points...
 

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Well, I think a few things just jump out from this presentation.

MVW had revenues of $1.3 billion, with 50% from sales and 15% from financing. Their own figures say 83000 owners have enrolled 153,000 weeks, an average of $300 per owner week enrolled. So it looks pretty much like the average enrollee had two weeks, and relatively few folks with outside weeks took the bait.

There is a missing link in the figures. The presentation specifies the percentage of presentation attendees who purchased additional points, but doesn't say what percentage of all owners have attended presentations. Darn. Still, I think it might be reasonable to assume that some non-presentation owners have also converted/purchased, probably at a lower rate. IF it were an overall rate of 25%, then these sales to established owners would run about $350 million, at an average points purchase of $17,000. With gross sales of $650 million (50% of $1.3 billion), that leaves $300,000 brought in by new sales, less than 50% of the total.

So, what would this mean, going forward? I think it's crystal clear that sales to existing owners will collapse very soon. Those who are open to the pitch have mostly bought by now. I seriously doubt many more will step up.
So, MVW has a huge task ahead of it: merely replacing the sales to owners. Can they really double sales to new folks? How many promising business models require a 50% revenue increase in a critical area to stay .... even?
 

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When it splits on Nov. 9th, what happens to shares of MAR?
 

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When it splits on Nov. 9th, what happens to shares of MAR?

They go up in value now that the dead weight of the timeshare division has been split off. I'm a Marriott shareholder, and that is my prediction.

Steve
 

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They go up in value now that the dead weight of the timeshare division has been split off. I'm a Marriott shareholder, and that is my prediction.

Steve

Do you get shares of both at the time of the split? We've been toying with buying, and I wonder if this is a good week to do so.
 

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Just as an FYI, all the information in the presentation has to be factual, as per FINRA and/or the SEC. This means that if FINRA and/or the SEC asks, they have to back them up. Now, realize that one can manipulate numbers, but only so far.
 

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Do you get shares of both at the time of the split? We've been toying with buying, and I wonder if this is a good week to do so.



It may now be too late. I think you had to be an owner of record a few days ago in order to benefit from the split and obtain shares of the new Company.

Maybe someone here can provide the exact date.





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from this article at news.marriott.com:

"... The spin-off will be completed through a pro rata dividend of Marriott Vacations Worldwide common stock on Monday, November 21, 2011 (the “distribution date”) to Marriott International shareholders of record as of the close of business of the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday, November 10, 2011 (the “record date”). On the distribution date each Marriott International shareholder will receive one share of Marriott Vacations Worldwide common stock for every ten shares of Marriott International Class A common stock held by such shareholder on the record date. The distribution of these shares will be made in book-entry form, which means that no physical share certificates will be issued. ..."

So, the spin-off will result in no difference to the number of MAR shares held, but MAR shareholders will get one VAC share for every ten MAR shares purchased prior to 11/11/11. Is that right?
 
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from this article at news.marriott.com:

"... The spin-off will be completed through a pro rata dividend of Marriott Vacations Worldwide common stock on Monday, November 21, 2011 (the “distribution date”) to Marriott International shareholders of record as of the close of business of the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday, November 10, 2011 (the “record date”). On the distribution date each Marriott International shareholder will receive one share of Marriott Vacations Worldwide common stock for every ten shares of Marriott International Class A common stock held by such shareholder on the record date. The distribution of these shares will be made in book-entry form, which means that no physical share certificates will be issued. ..."

So, the spin-off will result in no difference to the number of MAR shares held, but MAR shareholders will get one VAC share for every ten MAR shares purchased prior to 11/11/11. Is that right?

Stocks transactions have a three day settlement period IIRC.

The purchase therefore should take place no later than November 7 to settle by the November 10 record date.

The commencement of 'when issued' trading of VAC occurs on November 8.
 

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If you want to buy VAC shares it will probably be a good idea to wait and see what happens after they trade for awhile. Many times spinoff shares drop in value as original shareholders get out. IMO VAC shares will be lower than the initial valuation after a month or so.

It will be interesting to see how many of the large funds will keep their VAC shares after the initial spinoff occurs. In about a year we'll also know what the analysts who cover the stock think about the future of the company. That should then give us a pretty good idea of the future of the timeshare market.
 

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Of weeks owners who tour onsite: 47% enrolled and 30% bought additional points, average purchase amount was $17,000.

Volume per contract is around $24,000 in 2011. Revenue per tour is about $2,600. (Wow!)

These two numbers don't jive. If their average revenue per tour is $2600, that would lead to a one in ten tours end in a purchase base on the $26,000 figure. However, they indicate that 30% of owners that tour end up buying. That is a 1 in 3 or so. Are they counting just enrollments in the $2600 figure, would there be enough enrollments to make up the difference between 1 in 3 and 1 in 10? If the difference is between owners and non owners touring. That would lead me to believe that very few non owners are buying, something very troubling for the future.
 

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These two numbers don't jive. If their average revenue per tour is $2600, that would lead to a one in ten tours end in a purchase base on the $26,000 figure. However, they indicate that 30% of owners that tour end up buying. That is a 1 in 3 or so. Are they counting just enrollments in the $2600 figure, would there be enough enrollments to make up the difference between 1 in 3 and 1 in 10? If the difference is between owners and non owners touring. That would lead me to believe that very few non owners are buying, something very troubling for the future.

Data I saw on the DClub customer mix showed a spike in the percent of purchases by existing owners relative to the weeks era.

I'll post a link if I can find it.

EDITED TO ADD:

Sales to existing customers are 61%. Page 17

LINK TO Q2 EARNING CALL TRANSCRIPT

Much high than 2007, when sales to existing customers were 34%.

LINK

Go to slide 36 -- top of page 19
 
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