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Marriott "Stay" Credit for MVC Rental...

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As you are all probably aware Marriott gives MR Program participants one night of credit for every night that you stay at MVC properties. Last year I rented a week in Playa Andaluz in Spain and received seven nights of credit towards my status with Marriott. I have always receive stay credits for nights that I have stayed at my own properties or Destination Club reservations.

So I have rented from another owner four nights at the MVC Grand Chateau next month...she is staying three days and I have rented the remaining four nights. I think that we should split the night stays on a pro rata basis as she (the owner) will not be staying at the property while I am there. Today I received an email from her telling me that the Grand Chateau folks told her that she would recive all of the nights since it was "her unit". I am not sure that this is true..but I thought I would toss this out to the TUG community to see if this is true... or worth a discussion when I get to the property.

Thanks for your input.
 

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The only way they can do this is to split to folio in to two separate "reservations". I don't think they can do this in this manner. If it is a 2BR unit with lockoff unit that you are staying in, you may be able to get them to set up the folio for separate billing (one for each side of the 2BR), if that happens, you could BOTH likely receive seven night Elite night credit.

However, to really do what you are doing, it would have to be two separate reservations. One for three nights and the other for four nights. Since it is not, chances are whomever's Marriott Rewards number is on record will get the night credit. If you are the one checking out, you could just be sneaky and have them update the rewards number on record at checkout and you would get the credit. Of course that might not go over well.
 

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I agree with dioxide45.

The reservation belongs to the original owner and your rental sounds like it is a personal transaction which has nothing to do with Marriott.

I personally would never risk this type of transaction as an owner unless I was doing it for a very good friend and then I would add them to the reservation as my guest and put the reservation on an all cash basis with no charging privledges.

The original owner puts themselves at risk (both financial and legal) responsibility if charges were to be made against the room or if some sort of issue were to arise that would alert the hotel management.

As an example, this was a big problem a few years back when parents were renting out timeshare units to unknown spring breakers in Florida. Needless to say, rooms were trashed, police were involved, and all sorts of charges were made to the account holder of the units.

The original owners of the reservation were also held accountable in court for all criminal and financial responsibilities related to the rental.

I'm not saying the OP will have any of these things happen on their rental. I'm just identifying it as a potential risk to this type of transaction.
 

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Good points...

I agree with dioxide45.

The reservation belongs to the original owner and your rental sounds like it is a personal transaction which has nothing to do with Marriott.

I personally would never risk this type of transaction as an owner unless I was doing it for a very good friend and then I would add them to the reservation as my guest and put the reservation on an all cash basis with no charging privledges.

The original owner puts themselves at risk (both financial and legal) responsibility if charges were to be made against the room or if some sort of issue were to arise that would alert the hotel management.

As an example, this was a big problem a few years back when parents were renting out timeshare units to unknown spring breakers in Florida. Needless to say, rooms were trashed, police were involved, and all sorts of charges were made to the account holder of the units.

The original owners of the reservation were also held accountable in court for all criminal and financial responsibilities related to the rental.

I'm not saying the OP will have any of these things happen on their rental. I'm just identifying it as a potential risk to this type of transaction.



In this particular case there was a rental agreement which provides protection for the owner and reduces if not eliminates the liability. I guess my interpretation is that the Marriott Rewards program provides "stay" credits for each night that you actually stay at a property. If you were to book a week at a hotel and check out after three days leaving the costs and space to a third party I do not believe that you would get "stay" credits...at least that is how I understood the program and why I was asking you guys what the program is from your perspective.

I will have to check in with Marriott and provide them with my credit card etc to cover any stay related expense...so Marriott becomes a part of this transaction...its not like I am a guest or family member staying here.

This is not that big of an issue for me...I am just trying to understand the rules of the game.

Thanks for your feedback.
 
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This is not that big of an issue for me...I am just trying to understand the rules of the game.
The relevant rule here is that a one-week owner reservation is a single reservation and Marriott Rewards credit (points and nights) cannot be split between two accounts on a single reservation.
 

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In this particular case there was a rental agreement which provides protection for the owner and reduces if not eliminates the liability. I guess my interpretation is that the Marriott Rewards program provides "stay" credits for each night that you actually stay at a property. If you were to book a week at a hotel and check out after three days leaving the costs and space to a third party I do not believe that you would get "stay" credits...at least that is how I understood the program and why I was asking you guys what the program is from your perspective.

I will have to check in with Marriott and provide them with my credit card etc to cover any stay related expense...so Marriott becomes a part of this transaction...its not like I am a guest or family member staying here.

This is not that big of an issue for me...I am just trying to understand the rules of the game.

Thanks for your feedback.

You are giving a credit card to Marriott for charges you wish to make while using the unit. You are not renting anything from Marriott or paying Marriott for the stay. So I disagree with the notion that Marriott is involved. I guess this will now have to be a item covered in any rental contract.

On a side note, if this unit was an exchange in II, and this squabble gets escalated, and the word rent starts getting thrown around, the whole week will be cancelled along with any other exchanges the orginal exchanger has is their account.

In my opinion, the week belongs to the person that owns the week. Unless that person has some form of loyalty program, the renter is not entitled to Marriott rewards program benefits. The example of checking in for a week and then leaving early, and someone else checking in to same room is not valid. That person checking in to the vacated room is now purchasing the room from Marriott, and thus should be rewarded by marriott's loyalty program.

This is another reason to avoid renting units. If you can't use them, it is alot less hassle to just bank them in II or DC!
 
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The problem with the arrangement is that two cards will have been placed on the room during the stay for charges. If for some reason the one card doesn't authorize charges at the end of the respective, where do you think they will seek payment? The other card that was on the room. For the resort, they won't care who was in the unit when.

I would avoid these types of rental scenarios in the future. Sure a rental contract can cover you, but you have to sue someone to enforce it and the resort won't recognize it.
 
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