Marriott Resale

[SoCal Gene]

Exploring buying a resale for the Marriott Maui Ocean Club. It would be our first. Once ownership is converted, do you receive the same level of ownership as one who buys direct? Thanks.

 

[TXTortoise]

Yes, but without the option to convert the week to Destination Club (DC) Points. Ability to do that in the future requires additional purchases from MVCI. Lot of threads on that, but once it's in your account 'a week is a week'.

 

[Fasttr]

Also won’t have the ability to exchange your week for Bonvoy points, but the value there sailed long ago, so not missing out on much.

 

[ACDSNY]

I have a Marriott week purchased as a resale contract and I'm trying to remember if we can exchange for other resorts within the Marriott system or through Interval International? Just trying to remember what the limitations were since it was a resale contract.

 

[SoCal Gene]

Yes, but without the option to convert the week to Destination Club (DC) Points. Ability to do that in the future requires additional purchases from MVCI. Lot of threads on that, but once it's in your account 'a week is a week'.

Thanks TXT!

 

[Pamplemousse]

I have a Marriott week purchased as a resale contract and I'm trying to remember if we can exchange for other resorts within the Marriott system or through Interval International? Just trying to remember what the limitations were since it was a resale contract.

You need to exchange though II.
You reserve your week in your owned season up to a year in advance with Marriott and either stay or deposit it into II.
Marriott doesn’t have an internal week exchange- they use II even for non resale.

 

[SoCal Gene]

Yes, but without the option to convert the week to Destination Club (DC) Points. Ability to do that in the future requires additional purchases from MVCI. Lot of threads on that, but once it's in your account 'a week is a week'.

Do you think there is a benefit to buying DC points from MVCI after securing the original resale?

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

I have a Marriott week purchased as a resale contract and I'm trying to remember if we can exchange for other resorts within the Marriott system or through Interval International? Just trying to remember what the limitations were since it was a resale contract.

If you purchased it prior to June 21, 2010 then you can enroll your week and be able to obtain Destination Club Points.



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[davidvel]

I have a Marriott week purchased as a resale contract and I'm trying to remember if we can exchange for other resorts within the Marriott system or through Interval International? Just trying to remember what the limitations were since it was a resale contract.

Did you buy after 2010?

ETA: What timetraveler said...

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

Do you think there is a benefit to buying DC points from MVCI after securing the original resale?

Your best "bang for the buck" is buying weeks in the resale market. Buy weeks where you want to go!



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[SoCal Gene]

Your best "bang for the buck" is buying weeks in the resale market. Buy weeks where you want to go!



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Thanks Time Traveler. So forget the DC points, just buy resale weeks?

 

[TheTimeTraveler]

Thanks Time Traveler. So forget the DC points, just buy resale weeks?

Yes, do the math.

Ask yourself how many points would you need to purchase to achieve your goals? i.e, how many points would you need to buy in order to stay seven days at a resort you would like to stay at the time of year that you like to travel?



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[ACDSNY]

You need to exchange though II.
You reserve your week in your owned season up to a year in advance with Marriott and either stay or deposit it into II.
Marriott doesn’t have an internal week exchange- they use II even for non resale.

Thanks!

If you purchased it prior to June 21, 2010 then you can enroll your week and be able to obtain Destination Club Points.

Did you buy after 2010?

ETA: What timetraveler said...

No it was after.

 

[JIMinNC]

Yes, do the math.

Ask yourself how many points would you need to purchase to achieve your goals? i.e, how many points would you need to buy in order to stay seven days at a resort you would like to stay at the time of year that you like to travel?

To the OP, what @TheTimeTraveler says is true, traditional weeks are almost always much more cost effective than DC Points, but the two products are not 100% apples-to-apples.

With traditional weeks:

• You are guaranteed a week in your unit type in your view category in your season, at the resort you own. Unless you own a fixed week, you are not guaranteed any specific week or unit.
• You are generally limited to 7 night stays
• You own a specific unit size (1BR, 2BR, etc) and that's what you can book
• You own a specific season, and that's what you can book. If you own winter, you can't book summer if that is a different season at your resort.
• If you want to go to another resort other than the one you own or yours in a different season or unit size - even another Marriott - it means doing a trade through Interval International. Trading is not like booking your owned week or booking hotel since you have to book your week, deposit it into II, start a search for where you want to go, and wait for that search to match. There is no way to know how long it will take to find a match for what you are looking for. You can go online and look for immediate availability, but with trading, those online available units are usually off-season or late cancellations. The "good stuff" usually gets snagged first by other peoples' searches before showing up online.
• A specific view is not guaranteed, you get whatever you are assigned, and exchangers sometimes don't get the best views.
• Check-in days are generally restricted to certain days, and that varies from resort-to-resort - typical might be Friday, Saturday, or Sunday only. Some resorts might have more valid check-in days, other may have less.

With DC Points:

• All reservations are first come first served and subject to availability, just like booking a hotel.
• You can book any length of stay (subject to availability, of course) - 7 nights, 5 nights, 1 night, 10 nights, anything.
• You can check in any day of the week.
• The booking process is more straightforward, more like booking a hotel room. You go online or call, and if it is available, you can book it. If not, you can waitlist and wait like you do with trading.
• You can guarantee a specific view - ocean front, ocean view, garden view, etc - but the better views require more points.
• You can adjust unit size as your needs require - one trip book a 2BR, the next book a 1BR for fewer points and have points left over.
• All bookings are direct through Marriott Vacation Club, II is not involved, but you can use your points in II to go to non-Marriott resorts.

So, points have more flexibility basically, but at a significantly higher cost. Only you can determine your own needs and whether the significant extra cost is worth it for the more flexible product structure. We have both - we own deeded weeks on Maui and Kauai primarily to use inexpensively at those resorts, but then we also own points to use for going to different Marriott locations. We value the flexibility of points for those kinds of uses, and do not like the hassle of II trading. Many other TUGgers have no issue with trading and can get some great deals by working the system.

 

[rthib]

And don’t forget you can buy points on resale market also

 

[Mcrobot]

And don’t forget you can buy points on resale market also

what are the limitations of buying points resale? are you restricted in using them somehow?

 

[Dean]

Thanks Time Traveler. So forget the DC points, just buy resale weeks?

Just spend a few months investigating so you'll know what's best for your situation.

what are the limitations of buying points resale? are you restricted in using them somehow?

None but they're still likely more expensive up front and in yearly fees compared to buying the right weeks.

 

[goaliedave]

To the OP, what @TheTimeTraveler says is true, traditional weeks are almost always much more cost effective than DC Points, but the two products are not 100% apples-to-apples.

With traditional weeks:

• You are guaranteed a week in your unit type in your view category in your season, at the resort you own. Unless you own a fixed week, you are not guaranteed any specific week or unit.
• You are generally limited to 7 night stays
• You own a specific unit size (1BR, 2BR, etc) and that's what you can book
• You own a specific season, and that's what you can book. If you own winter, you can't book summer if that is a different season at your resort.
• If you want to go to another resort other than the one you own or yours in a different season or unit size - even another Marriott - it means doing a trade through Interval International. Trading is not like booking your owned week or booking hotel since you have to book your week, deposit it into II, start a search for where you want to go, and wait for that search to match. There is no way to know how long it will take to find a match for what you are looking for. You can go online and look for immediate availability, but with trading, those online available units are usually off-season or late cancellations. The "good stuff" usually gets snagged first by other peoples' searches before showing up online.
• A specific view is not guaranteed, you get whatever you are assigned, and exchangers sometimes don't get the best views.
• Check-in days are generally restricted to certain days, and that varies from resort-to-resort - typical might be Friday, Saturday, or Sunday only. Some resorts might have more valid check-in days, other may have less.

With DC Points:

• All reservations are first come first served and subject to availability, just like booking a hotel.
• You can book any length of stay (subject to availability, of course) - 7 nights, 5 nights, 1 night, 10 nights, anything.
• You can check in any day of the week.
• The booking process is more straightforward, more like booking a hotel room. You go online or call, and if it is available, you can book it. If not, you can waitlist and wait like you do with trading.
• You can guarantee a specific view - ocean front, ocean view, garden view, etc - but the better views require more points.
• You can adjust unit size as your needs require - one trip book a 2BR, the next book a 1BR for fewer points and have points left over.
• All bookings are direct through Marriott Vacation Club, II is not involved, but you can use your points in II to go to non-Marriott resorts.

So, points have more flexibility basically, but at a significantly higher cost. Only you can determine your own needs and whether the significant extra cost is worth it for the more flexible product structure. We have both - we own deeded weeks on Maui and Kauai primarily to use inexpensively at those resorts, but then we also own points to use for going to different Marriott locations. We value the flexibility of points for those kinds of uses, and do not like the hassle of II trading. Many other TUGgers have no issue with trading and can get some great deals by working the system.

Thanks Jim, very useful for me

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[SoCal Gene]

To the OP, what @TheTimeTraveler says is true, traditional weeks are almost always much more cost effective than DC Points, but the two products are not 100% apples-to-apples.

With traditional weeks:

• You are guaranteed a week in your unit type in your view category in your season, at the resort you own. Unless you own a fixed week, you are not guaranteed any specific week or unit.
• You are generally limited to 7 night stays
• You own a specific unit size (1BR, 2BR, etc) and that's what you can book
• You own a specific season, and that's what you can book. If you own winter, you can't book summer if that is a different season at your resort.
• If you want to go to another resort other than the one you own or yours in a different season or unit size - even another Marriott - it means doing a trade through Interval International. Trading is not like booking your owned week or booking hotel since you have to book your week, deposit it into II, start a search for where you want to go, and wait for that search to match. There is no way to know how long it will take to find a match for what you are looking for. You can go online and look for immediate availability, but with trading, those online available units are usually off-season or late cancellations. The "good stuff" usually gets snagged first by other peoples' searches before showing up online.
• A specific view is not guaranteed, you get whatever you are assigned, and exchangers sometimes don't get the best views.
• Check-in days are generally restricted to certain days, and that varies from resort-to-resort - typical might be Friday, Saturday, or Sunday only. Some resorts might have more valid check-in days, other may have less.

With DC Points:

• All reservations are first come first served and subject to availability, just like booking a hotel.
• You can book any length of stay (subject to availability, of course) - 7 nights, 5 nights, 1 night, 10 nights, anything.
• You can check in any day of the week.
• The booking process is more straightforward, more like booking a hotel room. You go online or call, and if it is available, you can book it. If not, you can waitlist and wait like you do with trading.
• You can guarantee a specific view - ocean front, ocean view, garden view, etc - but the better views require more points.
• You can adjust unit size as your needs require - one trip book a 2BR, the next book a 1BR for fewer points and have points left over.
• All bookings are direct through Marriott Vacation Club, II is not involved, but you can use your points in II to go to non-Marriott resorts.

So, points have more flexibility basically, but at a significantly higher cost. Only you can determine your own needs and whether the significant extra cost is worth it for the more flexible product structure. We have both - we own deeded weeks on Maui and Kauai primarily to use inexpensively at those resorts, but then we also own points to use for going to different Marriott locations. We value the flexibility of points for those kinds of uses, and do not like the hassle of II trading. Many other TUGgers have no issue with trading and can get some great deals by working the system.

Jim, super helpful. Thanks for taking the time to summarize both so succinctly. Time to start doing my homework and the math. Ironically, driving through NC now, coming back from MVC MB.

 

[Steve Fatula]

I'll add on one thing to Jims post, there are others but it's hidden in the details. One of the best usages of points is to add on to a week reservation. So, you have 7 nights with a week, never long enough for us. Points reservations are cheapest on non weekend nights, so, 5 nights a week. Whatever your weeks reservation start end end days are, you add on days on the front and/or back end on the cheapest weekdays (5 more days total). When we did this on our last trip to the desert in high season at DSV2, the weeks portion per night was $151.74. The points portion per night was $86.08, both based on maintenance fees. We add on via points to every week we ever do. So, the minimum we ever stay is 12 nights.

 

[goaliedave]

If a resale week is EOY even, 2BR lockoff, can it be split with one side used EVEN then other side banked for use ODD?

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[bazzap]

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If a resale week is EOY even, 2BR lockoff, can it be split with one side used EVEN then other side banked for use ODD?

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You can’t bank weeks, only points.
You can lock off and for example use the Master suite in the EVEN year and deposit the Guest suite with Interval (if you have an account with them) to use in the ODD year.

 

[Norcal5]

I would get one resale week and a small amount of resale points if I was starting new right now. They would complement each other at minimum cost, and allow renting of points that can be transferred into your account through VPE. (Vacation Point Exchange)

 

[brianfox]

You can lock off and for example use the Master suite in the EVEN year and deposit the Guest suite with Interval (if you have an account with them) to use in the ODD year.

To clarify: in this scenario, the deposited guest suite is not something you can withdraw and use on the odd year. The idea is you will exchange the deposited even week and exchange it for a week that happens to be in an odd year.