Marriott Ownership Identification?

[Ron98GT]

Ok, I have my Shadow Ridge in escrow with Timeshare Closing Services and they sent me an email stating and asking for the following:

"
We have requested a waiver from Marriott Vacation Club International as they do have the Right of First Refusal. When and if this waiver is received, Marriott Vacation Club International requires copy of clear Identification /passport to be submitted in order to expedite the process.

Please submit a CLEAR copy of your Identification or Passport to this email address or to my direct fax #
"

1. Does Marriott require a ""copy of clear Identification /passport"?
2. Has anyone else been asked this?
3. If so, what did you send?
4. Am I being too paranoid about ID theft?

thanks

 

[jimf41]

I wouldn't be overly concerned about it. If you've gone through the process of buying and presumably have given them a check to deposit you've already given out more information than anyone would need to initiate any type of identity theft.

Marriott did require ID when I bought my timeshares from them directly. On a recent trip to Europe I was asked for ID every time I made a purchase with a CC.

 

[Steve]

Ok, I have my Shadow Ridge in escrow with Timeshare Closing Services and they sent me an email stating and asking for the following:

"
We have requested a waiver from Marriott Vacation Club International as they do have the Right of First Refusal. When and if this waiver is received, Marriott Vacation Club International requires copy of clear Identification /passport to be submitted in order to expedite the process.

Please submit a CLEAR copy of your Identification or Passport to this email address or to my direct fax #
"

1. Does Marriott require a ""copy of clear Identification /passport"?
2. Has anyone else been asked this?
3. If so, what did you send?
4. Am I being too paranoid about ID theft?

thanks

Yes, Marriott requires this. I sent them a copy of my driver's license. I had to send it three times before they stated that it was clear enough to meet Marriott's requirements. I don't think that you can get the ownership transferred into your name without it. Marriott is adament that they have a copy of your ID, and I believe they are legally allowed to require this.

Steve

 

[BocaBoy]

Yes, Marriott requires this. I sent them a copy of my driver's license. I had to send it three times before they stated that it was clear enough to meet Marriott's requirements. I don't think that you can get the ownership transferred into your name without it. Marriott is adament that they have a copy of your ID, and I believe they are legally allowed to require this.

Steve

It is not just Marriott. I think it is required by the Patriot Act.

 

[dioxide45]

We had to provide a copy of our drivers licenses for our Harbour Lake transfer. Not a big deal as it doesn't really contain any vital information.

 

[Ron98GT]

Thanks everybody. I'll scan a copy of my drivers license and email it tonite.

Hopefully, it doesn't take 8-12 weeks to record, close, and put the TS in my name with Marriott, as they quoted. But I did read that California closings take longer.

Thanks again, Ron

 

[Feverdog66]

I had to provide a copy of my drivers license or passport also as I am closing on a OceanWatch unit. It is definitely required by Marriott now....

 

[MALC9990]

I wouldn't be overly concerned about it. If you've gone through the process of buying and presumably have given them a check to deposit you've already given out more information than anyone would need to initiate any type of identity theft.

Marriott did require ID when I bought my timeshares from them directly. On a recent trip to Europe I was asked for ID every time I made a purchase with a CC.

I guess that your CC does not employ Chip and Pin. Since almost every CC issued in Europe and the UK now has a microchip embedded in the card and requires a 4 digit PIN code to be entered at the Point of Sale Terminal, when a card not employing these security precautions is used the POS system falls back on the Mag stripe on the card and a signature.

European CC issuers will no longer protect the shop or business making the sale from fraud unless a PIN code was used. Hence they demand to see id and check the picture on the id with the person making the purchase and using the card.

Even now when using my chip and pin CC issued in the UK when making a purchase in Spain I am sometimes asked to produce a photo-id.

The introduction of Chip and Pin in the UK has had a major impact on CC fraud in the UK but this switched to overseas in countries where chip and pin has not been introduced.

Whilst recently in Thailand we noticed that Chip and Pin is now common in Thailand and I was asked for ID much less frequently when making purchase with my CC.

 

[KathyPet]

I think just about any type of real estate transaction now a days is requiring this sort of proof that you are who you say you are after all the issues with mortgages and real estate sales being fraudlant. Even having documents signed in front of a notary is no longer sufficient since being a notary does not mean that you are of good character as many of these notaries took part knowingly in these real estate schemes. The last two real estate transactions that we were involved in we had to provide proof of identification at the settlement table and copies were made of our drivers licenses. It is the way things are today. Too much fraud going on for this not to be required in today's world.

 

[Ron98GT]

I guess that your CC does not employ Chip and Pin. Since almost every CC issued in Europe and the UK now has a microchip embedded in the card and requires a 4 digit PIN code to be entered at the Point of Sale Terminal, when a card not employing these security precautions is used the POS system falls back on the Mag stripe on the card and a signature.

European CC issuers will no longer protect the shop or business making the sale from fraud unless a PIN code was used. Hence they demand to see id and check the picture on the id with the person making the purchase and using the card.

Even now when using my chip and pin CC issued in the UK when making a purchase in Spain I am sometimes asked to produce a photo-id.

The introduction of Chip and Pin in the UK has had a major impact on CC fraud in the UK but this switched to overseas in countries where chip and pin has not been introduced.

Whilst recently in Thailand we noticed that Chip and Pin is now common in Thailand and I was asked for ID much less frequently when making purchase with my CC.

This has nothing to do with the CC (I used PayPal). Marriott (MGVC) and specifically Marriott Shadow Ridge want a copy of my photo ID before they will change ownership into my name. Plus Shadow Ridge wants to keep a copy of the photo ID on file.

At least that's what I'm learning. When I purchased my Grand View in January, I didn't supply any photo ID's.

One good thing, nobody has asked for my social security number, which I would/will not give them, so we avoid that fight.

 

[ronparise]

You cant buy realestate today without proving you are who you say you are. And you cant sell it without providing a ss# so that the IRS can be provided with a statement

The fact that you want to hide this information is enough to stop a sale.

 

[Dave M]

One good thing, nobody has asked for my social security number, which I would/will not give them, so we avoid that fight.

Confirming what Ron said, you might not be able to avoid that fight when you sell a timeshare - if the sales price is $600 or more. If an attorney, closing company or corporate buyer is involved, one of those entities must report the sale to the IRS on Form 1099-S, including your Social Security number on the form. Even if there is no closing agent, an individual transferee must report the sale, but most individuals are not aware of the requirement.

You can refuse to provide your Social Security number but, as stated in the instructions for Form 1099-S, "you may be subject to civil or criminal penalties imposed by law.”