• The TUGBBS forums are completely free and open to the public and exist as the absolute best place for owners to get help and advice about their timeshares for more than 30 years!

    Join Tens of Thousands of other Owners just like you here to get any and all Timeshare questions answered 24 hours a day!
  • TUG started 30 years ago in October 1993 as a group of regular Timeshare owners just like you!

    Read about our 30th anniversary: Happy 30th Birthday TUG!
  • TUG has a YouTube Channel to produce weekly short informative videos on popular Timeshare topics!

    Free memberships for every 50 subscribers!

    Visit TUG on Youtube!
  • TUG has now saved timeshare owners more than $21,000,000 dollars just by finding us in time to rescind a new Timeshare purchase! A truly incredible milestone!

    Read more here: TUG saves owners more than $21 Million dollars
  • Sign up to get the TUG Newsletter for free!

    60,000+ subscribing owners! A weekly recap of the best Timeshare resort reviews and the most popular topics discussed by owners!
  • Our official "end my sales presentation early" T-shirts are available again! Also come with the option for a free membership extension with purchase to offset the cost!

    All T-shirt options here!
  • A few of the most common links here on the forums for newbies and guests!

Marriott, Int'l is Officially Getting Into the Homesharing Business

controller1

TUG Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2017
Messages
3,042
Reaction score
1,940
Points
298
Location
Tulsa
Resorts Owned
Westin KORVN OF
Westin Nanea OF
Westin FLEX
Very interesting report. Thanks Richard!
 

SueDonJ

Moderator
Joined
Jul 26, 2006
Messages
16,613
Reaction score
5,781
Points
1,249
Location
Massachusetts and Hilton Head Island
Resorts Owned
Marriott Barony Beach and SurfWatch
Note this new Homes & Villas partnership is between MAR and property management companies for cash/Bonvoy Points stays.

MVW has been contracting for several years with Third Home and others offering private homes/villas via DC Points usage, available to Executive and higher level DC Members in the Explorer Collection.
 

Fasttr

TUG Review Crew
TUG Member
Joined
Jun 26, 2013
Messages
6,290
Reaction score
3,440
Points
498
Location
Connecticut
Resorts Owned
Marriott's Grande Ocean (Enrolled)
MVC Trust Points
Note this new Homes & Villas partnership is between MAR and property management companies for cash/Bonvoy Points stays.

MVW has been contracting for several years with Third Home and others offering private homes/villas via DC Points usage, available to Executive and higher level DC Members in the Explorer Collection.
One slight tweak.... I believe Third Home is Presidential and above. I believe HHI Private Home and Villas of Distinction are Executive and above.
 

SueDonJ

Moderator
Joined
Jul 26, 2006
Messages
16,613
Reaction score
5,781
Points
1,249
Location
Massachusetts and Hilton Head Island
Resorts Owned
Marriott Barony Beach and SurfWatch
One slight tweak.... I believe Third Home is Presidential and above. I believe HHI Private Home and Villas of Distinction are Executive and above.

Thanks for the correction. :)
 

Old Hickory

TUG Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2007
Messages
1,458
Reaction score
1,001
Points
523
Location
Tennessee
This looks good for those who regularly rent vacation homes through a management company. I'll be interested in seeing the new offerings.
 

bobpark56

TUG Review Crew: Expert
TUG Member
Joined
Feb 3, 2008
Messages
1,695
Reaction score
375
Points
444
Location
Gibsonia, PA (just north of Pittsburgh)
Resorts Owned
Westin Lagunamar, Westin Aventuras, Marriott Grande Vista, Sandos Caracol, Festiva, Diamond Resorts (Hawaii Collection)
This isn't all that new. Marriott has been renting apartments in Lisbon for at least 2 months now.
 

controller1

TUG Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2017
Messages
3,042
Reaction score
1,940
Points
298
Location
Tulsa
Resorts Owned
Westin KORVN OF
Westin Nanea OF
Westin FLEX
This isn't all that new. Marriott has been renting apartments in Lisbon for at least 2 months now.

Actually this is new. Marriott's previous venture was a trial run. Their partner in that venture is not continuing as a partner in Homes & Villas.
 

Carol C

TUG Lifetime Member
Joined
Jun 6, 2005
Messages
3,875
Reaction score
266
Points
418
Location
USA
I just read about this in the Washington Post (Marriott's HQ is in neighboring Bethesda MD).

I think Marriott is trying to milk profit out of any and all sectors of vacation rental markets. Air BnB must have looked so enticing to Marriott, they had to do it on their own. They might be shooting the larger timeshare resorts in the foot...and I'm not sure how many more they're building from scratch, either. But in a way they'll be competing with themselves...folks have only so much $ for vacations and so little time. And families are shrinking, at least in the USA, and generally folks don't need 3+ bedroom lodging options.

My prediction though...if this turns out to be a success for Marriott...and it will take a few years for them to see the numbers...they will make a bid to take over Air BnB, buy them out or merge with them. Only time will tell, but the Marriott brand is always pushing for more market share, more profits, more visibility. (Why do I have a PacMan image in my mind?)
 

TravelTime

TUG Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2018
Messages
8,093
Reaction score
6,460
Points
499
Location
California
Resorts Owned
All Resale: MVC DPs, Marriott Ko Olina, Marriott Marbella, WKOVR-N, Four Seasons Aviara
Shouldn’t a public corporation be trying to make a profit and expand market share? If I am a shareholder, that is what I want. As a customer, I generally like it too because it provides more options if a company is constantly trying to innovate with better product offerings. Why do so many Tuggers accuse corporations of being greedy when this is what capitalism is designed to do? If it weren’t for corporations/developers, there would be no TUG marketplace being able to buy resale timeshares for a fraction of the cost of what someone else paid. If we really did not care about profits, then perhaps we should be paying the folks who a lot more when we buy their timeshares on the resale market? How about offering 3/4 of the original purchase price to help out the person who can no longer afford their timeshare? We do not do that because we want to maximize our own profits too. In a way, every family system is a mini-corporation seeking to maximize profits and expand market share. Marriott and Disney and others are only “greedy” because we the consumers want their products and are willing to pay.
 

Old Hickory

TUG Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2007
Messages
1,458
Reaction score
1,001
Points
523
Location
Tennessee
I just read about this in the Washington Post (Marriott's HQ is in neighboring Bethesda MD).

I think Marriott is trying to milk profit out of any and all sectors of vacation rental markets. Air BnB must have looked so enticing to Marriott, they had to do it on their own. They might be shooting the larger timeshare resorts in the foot...and I'm not sure how many more they're building from scratch, either. But in a way they'll be competing with themselves...folks have only so much $ for vacations and so little time. And families are shrinking, at least in the USA, and generally folks don't need 3+ bedroom lodging options.

My prediction though...if this turns out to be a success for Marriott...and it will take a few years for them to see the numbers...they will make a bid to take over Air BnB, buy them out or merge with them. Only time will tell, but the Marriott brand is always pushing for more market share, more profits, more visibility. (Why do I have a PacMan image in my mind?)

I'm fairly certain that Marriott has no interest in the individual homeowner home-share business (which is Airb&b's core business). But if they can get some of the managed vacation home rental business, then why not? Why build on Pawley's Island, SC when you can get some of the existing home rentals that are already there?

As a Bonvoy member, I look forward to the additional property offerings.

As an owner of Marriott shares, I hope they are interested in more market share, more profits, more, more, more.
 

Pathways

TUG Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2014
Messages
1,018
Reaction score
715
Points
223
Location
Indiana
Shouldn’t a public corporation be trying to make a profit and expand market share? If I am a shareholder, that is what I want. As a customer, I generally like it too because it provides more options if a company is constantly trying to innovate with better product offerings. Why do so many Tuggers accuse corporations of being greedy when this is what capitalism is designed to do? If it weren’t for corporations/developers, there would be no TUG marketplace being able to buy resale timeshares for a fraction of the cost of what someone else paid. If we really did not care about profits, then perhaps we should be paying the folks who a lot more when we buy their timeshares on the resale market? How about offering 3/4 of the original purchase price to help out the person who can no longer afford their timeshare? We do not do that because we want to maximize our own profits too. In a way, every family system is a mini-corporation seeking to maximize profits and expand market share. Marriott and Disney and others are only “greedy” because we the consumers want their products and are willing to pay.

Scratching my head here, did you post in the wrong thread? Can't find any comments that use 'greed' or anything else that could be taken as discouraging profits in any of the posts. (unless they edited them out before I read)
 

Fasttr

TUG Review Crew
TUG Member
Joined
Jun 26, 2013
Messages
6,290
Reaction score
3,440
Points
498
Location
Connecticut
Resorts Owned
Marriott's Grande Ocean (Enrolled)
MVC Trust Points
Scratching my head here, did you post in the wrong thread? Can't find any comments that use 'greed' or anything else that could be taken as discouraging profits in any of the posts. (unless they edited them out before I read)
I’m thinking it was this excerpt in the post right above TravelTime’s post.

“I think Marriott is trying to milk profit out of any and all sectors of vacation rental markets.”
 

Pathways

TUG Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2014
Messages
1,018
Reaction score
715
Points
223
Location
Indiana
I’m thinking it was this excerpt in the post right above TravelTime’s post.

“I think Marriott is trying to milk profit out of any and all sectors of vacation rental markets.”

Thanks - you may be correct. Guess someone could take that as a negative, although from reading the entire post I did not
 

Luvtoride

TUG Review Crew
TUG Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2011
Messages
1,328
Reaction score
981
Points
324
Location
New Jersey
Resorts Owned
Marriott Cypress Harbor
Marriott Ocean Pointe
Marriott Desert Springs Villas II
Marriott Grande Ocean
I just read about this in the Washington Post (Marriott's HQ is in neighboring Bethesda MD).

I think Marriott is trying to milk profit out of any and all sectors of vacation rental markets. Air BnB must have looked so enticing to Marriott, they had to do it on their own. They might be shooting the larger timeshare resorts in the foot...and I'm not sure how many more they're building from scratch, either. But in a way they'll be competing with themselves...folks have only so much $ for vacations and so little time. And families are shrinking, at least in the USA, and generally folks don't need 3+ bedroom lodging options.

My prediction though...if this turns out to be a success for Marriott...and it will take a few years for them to see the numbers...they will make a bid to take over Air BnB, buy them out or merge with them. Only time will tell, but the Marriott brand is always pushing for more market share, more profits, more visibility. (Why do I have a PacMan image in my mind?)

I don't see anything negative about this. By Marriott adding their name and quality standards (as long as they can be maintained) to this industry, it will add many more potential customers to a market that is obviously large and growing. I don't know about most of you (us) here, but the reason I'm a MVC owner and a MR Titanium member is that I appreciate the quality that the Marriott name represents. I know that I would have never rented through AirBnb, not knowing what type of quality accomodations / neighborhood I might be staying at, but now I'd be more likely to explore this type of vacation rental with the Marriott name on it. There are certainly places I would like to vacation where there is not an MVC resort, where I'd like something bigger/ better than a hotel room to stay in. I applaud Marriott for continuing to explore and offer more options to its guests/ members to travel to more places.
 

controller1

TUG Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2017
Messages
3,042
Reaction score
1,940
Points
298
Location
Tulsa
Resorts Owned
Westin KORVN OF
Westin Nanea OF
Westin FLEX
I don't see anything negative about this.

I think the biggest negative is from the viewpoint of the Marriott franchisees who have been battling AirBnb and similar at the city council level for several years as they see it siphoning business from them. I'm sure it's a hard pill to swallow to now have Marriott part of what the franchisees have been battling.
 

dansimms

TUG Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2013
Messages
546
Reaction score
120
Points
253
Location
Long Island, NY
The initial homes that I checked are super high end. Nothing most people could touch. I hope it evolves to the point where it will be useful .
 

bazzap

TUG Review Crew: Veteran
TUG Member
Joined
Nov 4, 2009
Messages
4,445
Reaction score
1,258
Points
399
Location
Cirencester UK

Luvtoride

TUG Review Crew
TUG Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2011
Messages
1,328
Reaction score
981
Points
324
Location
New Jersey
Resorts Owned
Marriott Cypress Harbor
Marriott Ocean Pointe
Marriott Desert Springs Villas II
Marriott Grande Ocean
Has anyone heard of Inspirato? It is basically a "club" that sells memberships (similar to timeshare ownership) that allows members access to RENT luxury homes and hotel rooms around the world. This is exactly the market that Marriott is getting into with this initial marketing of their "homesharing service". This certainly is NOT an Airbnb model.

The one villa I looked up in Fasttr's link above was for a 5 bedroom villa in St. Johns that starts at $2,950/ night. I can see some benefit to us when Marriott starts including these homes as options for MVC members to book with DC points. Still will be pretty rich, but with planning for a big splurge family or friends vacation (and maybe sharing in the points contributing to the stay) this could offer some awesome vacation alternatives in places Marriott would never undertake building a new resort. It will be interesting to see how this develops going forward.
 

billymach4

TUG Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2006
Messages
3,842
Reaction score
1,429
Points
548
Location
Everywhere
Has anyone heard of Inspirato? It is basically a "club" that sells memberships (similar to timeshare ownership) that allows members access to RENT luxury homes and hotel rooms around the world. This is exactly the market that Marriott is getting into with this initial marketing of their "homesharing service". This certainly is NOT an Airbnb model.

The one villa I looked up in Fasttr's link above was for a 5 bedroom villa in St. Johns that starts at $2,950/ night. I can see some benefit to us when Marriott starts including these homes as options for MVC members to book with DC points. Still will be pretty rich, but with planning for a big splurge family or friends vacation (and maybe sharing in the points contributing to the stay) this could offer some awesome vacation alternatives in places Marriott would never undertake building a new resort. It will be interesting to see how this develops going forward.
I just spent Memorial Day weekend at one of these Inspirato properties with DS and DIL inlaws and DW and I.
DS got into this a few years back with his business partner. Honestly I did not pay much mind to this and did not even
research.

Let me tell you this experience was off the charts. The property was fabulous and luxurious. His kids had a blast.
There were 3 bedrooms with king beds, Sauna, Pool, Hot Tub and the list goes on.

We all had a blast.

He mostly books within 2 - 3 weeks of arrival due to the constraints of the reservation model. Not like us who normally plan 6 - 12 months out. Also I might add that DIL delivered 3rd baby boy about one month ago.

We got wind of this plan less than 2 weeks ago while we were still at Ocean Pointe. So essentially last minute plan.

The weather was fabulous as well. This last weekend will be preserved in our collective memories forever :)
 

DRH90277

TUG Member
Joined
May 3, 2015
Messages
969
Reaction score
741
Points
204
Location
So Cal to N Carolina
Resorts Owned
Marriott: Ocean Watch, Newport Coast, Grand Chateau, Custom House, Timber Lodge, VCP's.
From the perspective of a Vacation Club points owner, is this just another option for using points like outsourced tours, a cruise, etc? I'm hopeful this venture will be on the side as only an option and will not directly impact the Maintenance Fees for those who own points. I'm also trying to understand whether this is intended to be available to Abound point owners at all. Sometimes I get confused as between offerings of the various entities with Marriott in the name.

I really don't want to attend a sales presentation to learn about this.
 
Top