Marriott.com versus availability for vacation club

[mariawolf]

So we have been wait listed for a vacation club in Spain and getting to the point of needing to make flight reservations. I just checked and the resort does show availability for the dates we are wait listed for.
So am I correct in assuming that Marriott owns/makes available rooms available separate from vacation club? Since the dates are available I decided to book them for my dates and although it will frustrate me to pay $8K for the rooms it will at least allow us to plan--12+ of us going for a major birthday I am "achieving"--LOL next summer.
Just having paid my maintenance fee for the club it is very frustrating as using these non US resorts is the main reason we joined.............

 

[jeepie]

So we have been wait listed for a vacation club in Spain and getting to the point of needing to make flight reservations. I just checked and the resort does show availability for the dates we are wait listed for.
So am I correct in assuming that Marriott owns/makes available rooms available separate from vacation club? Since the dates are available I decided to book them for my dates and although it will frustrate me to pay $8K for the rooms it will at least allow us to plan--12+ of us going for a major birthday I am "achieving"--LOL next summer.
Just having paid my maintenance fee for the club it is very frustrating as using these non US resorts is the main reason we joined.............

Yes, Marriott often has separate availability. I think you did the right thing. Once your waitlist clears, you can cancel this duplicate reservation. Happy Birthday.

 

[JIMinNC]

Yes, Marriott often has separate availability. I think you did the right thing. Once your waitlist clears, you can cancel this duplicate reservation. Happy Birthday.

I would go further to say Marriott ALWAYS has separate availability between Vacation Club inventory and Marriott.com inventory.

For the benefit of the OP, the inventory gets put into either the Vacation Club or Marriott.com inventory buckets in different ways:

1.) The Vacation Club inventory for the Spain locations is primarily dependent upon owners of those weeks electing their weeks for DC points, which then makes their week available to other Vacation Club members. That's one reason inventory in those locations can often be hard to come by with DC points - Marriott doesn't really control that inventory and is essentially dependent on owners making the decision to elect their week for points to get inventory for DC point usage. Since most of the Spain owners are likely European residents and most of the Vacation Club locations are in the US, there is less incentive for owners in Spain to elect for points. This is unlike the US resorts where the Marriott DC Trust owns a significant number of weeks, so those are automatically available for DC points bookings in addition to the many weeks that US owners elect for DC points.

2.) The inventory that shows up on Marriott.com is a totally different animal. These are weeks that wind up being controlled by Marriott Vacation Club when owners convert their week to Marriott Rewards points, take advantage of the Marriott rental program, or use DC points for cruises, tours, etc. Marriott Vacation Club has to pay Marriott International for the Rewards points, Collette for the tours, and the cruise company for the cruises, etc. In turn, they then place these weeks on Marriott.com for cash bookings to recoup their out-of-pocket costs paid for the Rewards points, tours, or cruises. That is why they keep this inventory bucket totally separate from the regular Vacation Club inventory, and why there may be inventory in that bucket but waitlist only in the Vacation Club.

 

[Luvtoride]

I just booked a Collette Tour for next year using a large number of points that came from various buckets including Trust points and deeded weeks, but none of my weeks are for Spain. I’m like the OP (and probably most Tuggers) booking vacations far in advance. My wife gets antsy when we have to be put on a waitlist, but I’m pretty calm about it knowing that we will get the weeks we want in just about every case.

I was just talking with a coworker and told him that I have all of my vacation time accounted for for 2019 already. He was flabbergasted! LOL.


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[JIMinNC]

I was just talking with a coworker and told him that I have all of my vacation time accounted for for 2019 already. He was flabbergasted! LOL.

We get the same reaction when we tell friends we have basically everything planned for 2019 - and have for several months now. We even already have a Greek Isles cruise booked for Oct 2020.

 

[Luvtoride]

We get the same reaction when we tell friends we have basically everything planned for 2019 - and have for several months now. We even already have a Greek Isles cruise booked for Oct 2020.

Way to go Jim! That’s the way those of us who place a high importance on our vacation time do it! Our motto is “ if we’re not on vacation we are always planning a future one”!


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[Venter]

I wanted to waitlist in Australia and was told one cannot do waitlists in Asia and Australia

 

[bazzap]

I wanted to waitlist in Australia and was told one cannot do waitlists in Asia and Australia

Amazing the things we keep discovering.
I never knew this and recently made a points booking in Asia which had no availability at 13 months so I had to wait until nearer 12 months to be able to book.
I considered using waitlist next time I want to book, but now I know this will not be possible so I will just have to keep on checking.

 

[DannyTS]

i am sure you can find a better deal on redweek or on Tug marketplace, if not try https://fabtimeshare.com/marriotts-playa-andaluza-rentals/
They have a large inventory and they only deal with Marriott if i am not mistaken

 

[jeff76543]

So we have been wait listed for a vacation club in Spain and getting to the point of needing to make flight reservations. I just checked and the resort does show availability for the dates we are wait listed for.
So am I correct in assuming that Marriott owns/makes available rooms available separate from vacation club? Since the dates are available I decided to book them for my dates and although it will frustrate me to pay $8K for the rooms it will at least allow us to plan--12+ of us going for a major birthday I am "achieving"--LOL next summer.
Just having paid my maintenance fee for the club it is very frustrating as using these non US resorts is the main reason we joined.............

I hope, at least, that you received the Vacation Club Owner's Discount on your reservation for the vacation club in Spain. It can amount to a significant saving on the cost of the reservation, depending on your Vacation Club status.

 

[mariawolf]

I booked online so I guess I should call them and ask for the discount? Did not know that--I had a friends and family code but it said it wasn't available. Thanks for the info about discount.

 

[JIMinNC]

I booked online so I guess I should call them and ask for the discount? Did not know that--I had a friends and family code but it said it wasn't available. Thanks for the info about discount.

You can get the discount online on Marriott.com. Just rebook and use the discount code:

7VC for Standard and Select Owners (25%)
6VC for Executive Owners (30%)
2VC for Presidential and Chairmans (35%)

 

[bazzap]

You can get the discount online on Marriott.com. Just rebook and use the discount code:

7VC for Standard and Select Owners (25%)
6VC for Executive Owners (30%)
2VC for Presidential and Chairmans (35%)

Also, as always, these MVC Owner benefits are subject to availability

 

[mariawolf]

thanks tried but rate discount wasn't available

 

[Dean]

I just booked a Collette Tour for next year using a large number of points that came from various buckets including Trust points and deeded weeks, but none of my weeks are for Spain. I’m like the OP (and probably most Tuggers) booking vacations far in advance. My wife gets antsy when we have to be put on a waitlist, but I’m pretty calm about it knowing that we will get the weeks we want in just about every case.

I was just talking with a coworker and told him that I have all of my vacation time accounted for for 2019 already. He was flabbergasted! LOL.


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When you get to go and he doesn't, that defines it right there. Successful people plan ahead, with anything, whether it be business or finances, a longer timeframe correlates well to success and the reverse tends to give the opposite results.