Marriott Big Island

[Helios]

Any one knows anything about a future Marriott TS development in the big island?

 

[1Kflyerguy]

Any one knows anything about a future Marriott TS development in the big island?

I heard they are going to do a conversion on part of the hotel in Waikaloa.

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[SueDonJ]

Marriott Vacations buying 240 rooms at Hawaii resort; plans to convert to time-share units (link to bizjournals.com)

It was discussed in this thread: VAC 2/26/15 Earnings Call - Financial and Future Development Info

 

[dioxide45]

I suspect that converting the use of the units, as indicated in the article is what the deal is contingent on, is what is holding this up. Things like this move very slow in Hawaii. The one thing that doesn't move slow are votes to approve tax increases on timeshare owners.:rofl:

 

[Helios]

Thanks for the reply. What's everybody's take on hotel conversions to TS? I am not sure I like the idea (or final product). The conversion Starwood did at the Westin St John does not compare to the original phase that was developed as TS (by Hyatt).

 

[bazzap]

Thanks for the reply. What's everybody's take on hotel conversions to TS? I am not sure I like the idea (or final product). The conversion Starwood did at the Westin St John does not compare to the original phase that was developed as TS (by Hyatt).

I find it depends on the original hotel and the design of the conversion.
St Kitts had one very large hotel building with a series of smaller buildings leading down to the sea.
Half of these buildings were very well converted to MVC villas, with some of the largest bedrooms we have stayed in and positively enormous terraces on the top floor 3 bedroom units.
So it can be done well.

 

[Ralph Sir Edward]

I suspect that converting the use of the units, as indicated in the article is what the deal is contingent on, is what is holding this up. Things like this move very slow in Hawaii. The one thing that doesn't move slow are votes to approve tax increases on timeshare owners.:rofl:

Remember the old politician saying....

"Don't tax you, don't tax me. Tax that fellow behind the tree..."

TS owners are the fellows behind the tree. We can't vote there...

 

[BigMac]

MVC Waikaloa under construction

I had an owners update in late March and asked the rep about Marriott converting some of the Marriott Waikaloa to the MVC. He said it had been delayed because they couldn't figure out how to share reconstruction costs with the hotel owners. However, reading recent trip advisor posts for the hotel, they now indicate that one wing of the hotel has been closed and construction of the MVC units has begun. They might be available for reservations some time in 2017 but more likely 2018

 

[JIMinNC]

I had an owners update in late March and asked the rep about Marriott converting some of the Marriott Waikaloa to the MVC. He said it had been delayed because they couldn't figure out how to share reconstruction costs with the hotel owners. However, reading recent trip advisor posts for the hotel, they now indicate that one wing of the hotel has been closed and construction of the MVC units has begun. They might be available for reservations some time in 2017 but more likely 2018

Per the recent Marriott Vacations Worldwide earnings conference call:

* An agreement has been reached with the owner of the Waikoloa Beach Marriott for conversion of a wing of the hotel into 112 one and two bedroom timeshare units. They expect the owner to deliver the first inventory in July 2017. Sales of Destination Club points will begin in Waikoloa in September 2016.

 

[hangloose]

I find it depends on the original hotel and the design of the conversion.
St Kitts had one very large hotel building with a series of smaller buildings leading down to the sea.
Half of these buildings were very well converted to MVC villas, with some of the largest bedrooms we have stayed in and positively enormous terraces on the top floor 3 bedroom units.
So it can be done well.

We stayed at the Marriott Waikoloa several years ago on MR points. It was the year they were unfortunately renovating the pool, etc...so we couldn't use it. The beach area and path to the water was very nice and picturesque. Certainly unique to the Big Island. You can pickup many activities directly from the beach (sunset sail, etc) via a quick walk. While the resort was nice, it paled in comparison to the Hilton Waikoloa Village amenities that are a short walk down the beach. The most recent photos of the pool areas, etc...look much nicer than when we were there several years back.

On a side note. While not a fan of St Kitts (island or resort) in general, I was very surprised with the size of the 2 bedroom villa my wife and I had a few years back. It seemed much larger than the standard MVC 2-bedroom....even with just the two of us there (vs the family).