Marriott aligned with Spinnaker?

[TeresaDon]

At our sales presentation, we were told that our home resorts, Spinnaker, will be able to select Marriott resorts in the future. This will require paying a fee of $8,000 or more to convert our weeks to points, or making a new Spinnaker purchase for points, rather than the weeks we have now. We were offered a studio unit at $7,000 to make this arrangement, with a bonus of adding two weeks to the two weeks we already own.
Do any Marriott or Spinnaker owners know anything about this development?

 

[tschwa2]

At our sales presentation, we were told that our home resorts, Spinnaker, will be able to select Marriott resorts in the future. This will require paying a fee of $8,000 or more to convert our weeks to points, or making a new Spinnaker purchase for points, rather than the weeks we have now. We were offered a studio unit at $7,000 to make this arrangement, with a bonus of adding two weeks to the two weeks we already own.
Do any Marriott or Spinnaker owners know anything about this development?

I think it is crazy bs. I am sure the arrangement didn't include any details in writing. The kernel of truth is you could probably convert to points and then use those points in II the same way you can use a week now to exchange into a Marriott unit. The bonus 2 weeks are just II AC certificates that may get you a $0-80 discount off last call rentals of $500 or less.

 

[pedro47]

To TeresaDon, Welcome to the TUG BBS “ Where Knowledge is Power.”
Where the salesperson lips moving? LOL.

 

[dougp26364]

We are chairman’s level with Marriott and own one Spinnaker managed resort in Branson. All I can say is.......
Hahahahahahahahaha.

Sounds like a salesman spinning lies based on Marriott’s recent mergers and nothing more.

Other stories we’ve heard from Spinnaker.

Disney is buying up land to build a resort in Branson because Walt Disney was from Missouri
The reality, Disney opened a Disney Store (since closed I believe) in the Branson Landing shopping mall.

They’ll be landing 747’s at the new Branson airport because the entire world wants to come to Branson.
The reality, it didn’t happen.

 

[Steve Fatula]

Disney is buying up land to build a resort in Branson because Walt Disney was from Missouri
The reality, Disney opened a Disney Store (since closed I believe) in the Branson Landing shopping mall.

Branson Landing does have a Disney outlet store, it's still open.

 

[dougp26364]

Branson Landing does have a Disney outlet store, it's still open.

It’s been awhile and I wasn’t sure. So I guess the salesman was right, Disney did come to Branson

 

[jme]

We are chairman’s level with Marriott and own one Spinnaker managed resort in Branson. All I can say is.......
Hahahahahahahahaha.....Sounds like a salesman spinning lies based on Marriott’s recent mergers and nothing more.
Other stories we’ve heard from Spinnaker.
Disney is buying up land to build a resort in Branson because Walt Disney was from Missouri
The reality, Disney opened a Disney Store (since closed I believe) in the Branson Landing shopping mall.

They’ll be landing 747’s at the new Branson airport because the entire world wants to come to Branson.
The reality, it didn’t happen.

I heard it a bit different.......that Branson would be loaded ONTO a 747 and moved to Orlando, so that it would be easier to get to.
Makes sense to me.......

 

[Dean]

At our sales presentation, we were told that our home resorts, Spinnaker, will be able to select Marriott resorts in the future. This will require paying a fee of $8,000 or more to convert our weeks to points, or making a new Spinnaker purchase for points, rather than the weeks we have now. We were offered a studio unit at $7,000 to make this arrangement, with a bonus of adding two weeks to the two weeks we already own.
Do any Marriott or Spinnaker owners know anything about this development?

This is a common ploy for lessor resorts or resort systems to try to sell their product saying you can reserve the higher end option. Generally I've seen with with DVC as the focus but I've seen others like in this case. I don't have a lot of info on Spinnaker as a system but they give Westgate a run for first place in the timeshare sales sleaze competition.

 

[TeresaDon]

Thank you, I didn’t expect such quick replies! These certainly help us think of the negatives in the presentation. He did finally admit that we cannot be forced to convert to points. We are happy with what we have, and will enjoy spending the $150 gift we received! Next week we will be at a Marriott, it will be interesting to hear what they are saying.

 

[Dean]

Thank you, I didn’t expect such quick replies! These certainly help us think of the negatives in the presentation. He did finally admit that we cannot be forced to convert to points. We are happy with what we have, and will enjoy spending the $150 gift we received! Next week we will be at a Marriott, it will be interesting to hear what they are saying.

Just make certain you don't buy at the presentation and check out options and information here on TUG if you are at all interested. Enjoy your trip.

 

[tschwa2]

Even if you tell them you own at Spinnaker, I don't think you will hear anything about any program between Marriott and Spinnaker.
Do you currently exchange your Spinnaker through RCI or II?

 

[TeresaDon]

Even if you tell them you own at Spinnaker, I don't think you will hear anything about any program between Marriott and Spinnaker.
Do you currently exchange your Spinnaker through RCI or II?

II through Spinnaker. RCI through Wyndham

 

[dougp26364]

The “alignment” is probably the ability to exchange into Marriott through II. The salesman could have said they’re aligned with Bluegreen, DRI, Westgate or any other timeshare that exchanges with II. So the salesman can say he was telling the truth, even though the truth is just a little on the shady side.

 

[HappyClam]

At our sales presentation, we were told that our home resorts, Spinnaker, will be able to select Marriott resorts in the future. This will require paying a fee of $8,000 or more to convert our weeks to points, or making a new Spinnaker purchase for points, rather than the weeks we have now. We were offered a studio unit at $7,000 to make this arrangement, with a bonus of adding two weeks to the two weeks we already own.
Do any Marriott or Spinnaker owners know anything about this development?

Thls ls years late, and l just notlced thls so replylng now so people get the rlght story.
you bought at Ormond Beach, Royal Florldlan, Splnnaker. l dont know what they told you ln sales there. The sales team ls not on slte there. We own at Splnnaker on Hllton Head for over 25 years and l know for a fact that there have NEVER been polnts offered at Splnnaker, they are all deeded and/or RTU's (Bluewater on a 90 year leased land), and ether flxed weeks or floatlng weeks, annual to trlannual. Marrlott BOUGHT lnterval and that gave ALL Splnnaker owners who are current wlth lnterval ACCESS to Marrlott Resorts for Getaways and Exchanges, and even ome Hllton and Hyatt Resorts and one pays an exchange fee. Getaways have no fee per say but just a set prlce on the unlt per week, or of a short stay Getaway for days. That was GREAT news. l know Splnnaker hlred a BUNCH of former Marrlott Vacatlon Club tlmeshare sales people when they sold out of Hlton Head, and a few of Marrlott owners converted FROM Marrlott polnts to get deeded property at Splnnaker. Thats a peronal declslon. But l dont thlnk Splnnaker does that anymore. And l dont know how well those people dld when they moved over to Splnnaker. Deeds and RTU's have the beneflt of belng flxed cost to own, plus Splnnaker has lower annual dues than Marrlott and Dlsney and Hllton etc. Splnnaker ls not bulldlng anythlng new (Mr. Taylor passed away at 84) and are only selllng blts and pleces they acqulre, foreclosures and dlvorces and deed backs etc. And those are floatlng weeks and blannuals and trlannuals. We own 3 bedroom consecutlve Red season weeks, flxed weeks flxed unlt, prlme locatlon. We USE our weeks annually. We travel on lnterval Getaways, llke a recent trlp to Sheraton Vlstana for 300 for the week ln Orlando. Agaln, Splnnaker has NO POlNTS and NEVER DlD. EVER. l know the players well, so l know what they have ln lnventory and thelr pollcles.

 

[HappyClam]

The “alignment” is probably the ability to exchange into Marriott through II. The salesman could have said they’re aligned with Bluegreen, DRI, Westgate or any other timeshare that exchanges with II. So the salesman can say he was telling the truth, even though the truth is just a little on the shady side.

See my response to her, please. lts not shady at all. Splnnaker GlVES all buyers, new or even add on weeks to exlstlng owners, a GOLD membershlp for ONE year at lnterval and that glves owners ACCESS to all Marrlott Resorts and even Sheraton and Hyatt and HlLton resorts that are ln the lnterval system (not many, but a few are.) Telllng buyers they are allgned ls correct as they have a worklng relatlonshlp and contract between Splnnaker Resorts and lnterval now owned by Marrlott Vacatlon Club. (also use lt for access to hotels and crulses per lnterval rules). lts a wonderful addltlon. We use lt for Getaways. Splnnaker has thelr own Developer Bonus weeks for offseason (100-125 a nlght dependlng on slze of unlt and locatlon) we also use, wlthout glvlng up our deeded weeks. But Getaways can be cheaper than that as we see often. Cancun, Spaln, Florlda, Calfornla among locatlons l have seen for under 400 for a week. BUT you must be a current lnterval member and pay thelr annual dues. lnterval thus exchanges deeded property llke Splnnaker and POlNTS based property llke Marrlott. But Splnnaker does NOT sell polnts or polnts based tlmeshare weeks.

 

[Hindsite]

Telllng buyers they are allgned ls correct as they have a worklng relatlonshlp and contract between Splnnaker Resorts and lnterval now owned by Marrlott Vacatlon Club. (also use lt for access to hotels and crulses per lnterval rules).

Sorry to disappoint you but II is not owned by MVC. They are owned by MVW, the parent company of MVC, and also the parent company of Sheraton, Westin, Hyatt and Welk. II doesn't provide access to all MVC resorts any more than they provide access to all DVC resorts. There are many resorts that are affiliated with II that rarely, if ever, have any inventory available via II. It is indeed shady of Spinnaker to profess alignment with MVC, any more than it is to say they are aligned with DVC. II is just an exchange platform, the relationship is with II and not with the brands that use II.

lnterval thus exchanges deeded property llke Splnnaker and POlNTS based property llke Marrlott.

MVC is not just a points based system. It currently has both deeded points and deeded and RTU weeks based products.

 

[dougp26364]

See my response to her, please. lts not shady at all. Splnnaker GlVES all buyers, new or even add on weeks to exlstlng owners, a GOLD membershlp for ONE year at lnterval and that glves owners ACCESS to all Marrlott Resorts and even Sheraton and Hyatt and HlLton resorts that are ln the lnterval system (not many, but a few are.) Telllng buyers they are allgned ls correct as they have a worklng relatlonshlp and contract between Splnnaker Resorts and lnterval now owned by Marrlott Vacatlon Club. (also use lt for access to hotels and crulses per lnterval rules). lts a wonderful addltlon. We use lt for Getaways. Splnnaker has thelr own Developer Bonus weeks for offseason (100-125 a nlght dependlng on slze of unlt and locatlon) we also use, wlthout glvlng up our deeded weeks. But Getaways can be cheaper than that as we see often. Cancun, Spaln, Florlda, Calfornla among locatlons l have seen for under 400 for a week. BUT you must be a current lnterval member and pay thelr annual dues. lnterval thus exchanges deeded property llke Splnnaker and POlNTS based property llke Marrlott. But Splnnaker does NOT sell polnts or polnts based tlmeshare weeks.

Agree to disagree. It is shady if the salesman makes it sound as if Marriott and Spinnaker have an agreement. They’re is no agreement, only the basic exchange rights.

Spinnaker is not and never has been “aligned” with Marriott.