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Marco Island presentation experience

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We attended the Marco Island Crystal Shores presentation Monday morning.

Background: We had watched this project for more than a year before sales began and we were planning to buy and called for the information as soon as it became available. We were not expecting a "cheap deal," but were shocked at the prices, so we opted not to buy several months ago through Marriott Direct. We had planned a long time ago to visit the Marriott Hotel this past weekend since it was fall break for our local schools.

We had appointment for the 8:00am presentation on Monday morning. The offer was 15,000 MR points or $100 certificates to use at local businesses or Marriott restaurants (could not be applied to restaurant charges we had already incurred at the hotel). We opted for 15,000 points.

The "presentation" was in the hotel bar next to the lobby. Sales people sitting around with their notebooks. No sales center yet. While not a big deal to us, we did note that there were no refreshments at 8:00am... no juice, doughnuts or muffins (would have been nice to keep our children busy since there was no children's room).

The one interesting piece of information we were able to learn is that "Mr. Marriott" didn't like the unit interiors and he has ordered them to be completely re-done according to our salesperson. He supposedly didn't care for the urban loft look of the units that we've all seen (I completely agree). He reportedly wanted something more "warm and beachy."

Salesperson was nice and admitted that we knew just as much as she did. However, my problem came when "Tom" came over to the table. I'm starting to feel like these timeshare presentations are becoming like a dreadful car buying dance... where the nice sales person turns you over to the pit boss. Tom bordered on being rude and asked, "what can I do for you since you've obviously visited most of our properties." In fact, he peppered the conversation with remarks like that to send us a message, "why are you wasting our time."

They were trying to sell me a "Gold" season week at $33,000. I asked about the possibility of an internal trading system. He said very abruptly, "I don't know anything about that, there is no internal trading system, you have to go through Interval." I explained that I was concerned about buying a "gold" week and how it would trade in the future if Marriott goes to an internal system. He challenged me on it... right up to the point of arguing with me... that the season doesn't matter, "each week is weighted." I replied that since "Gold" at Marco is summer months, I may have a hard time trading my "gold" into a summer week anywhere else. He wanted to know where I heard about an internal system, I told him on the internet chat boards and then I asked, "don't you read those to know what your customers are saying?" His response, "I don't need to read those gossip pages, I work here, I know what's going on."

To recap: We have one week at Myrtle Beach and we have said over and over again how glad we are that we bought it. We've been to Myrtle Beach once and gotten excellent trades since (along with accomodation certificates!). We have touted our timeshare experience to others. So were are happy customers. We will probably buy another week in the future, but obviously we have to consider work vacation time, children summer camp activities, swim team meets, etc. We were told when we bought that we should attend presentations to get the latest information, but I'm getting the impression that Marriott doesn't want owners to do that anymore.

I have a photo of the site where the timeshares are being built, but I'm not sure how to post it here. Part of the former Radisson Hotel is still standing I'm told because it is closer to the water than present/newer zoning laws allow and was grandfathered in. I'm sure the project will be nice. By the way, the Marriott Hotel was absolutely perfect.
 
Wouldn't Mr Marriott like to know how their sales team acted! They should have better answers for potential buyers at for those prices. Write the CEO on MVCI. How insulting! I guess that team does not know how to deal with educated buyers.

I am a Marriott owner but having said that. We stayed at Marco this May at Charter Club facing the beach and next to the new Marriott. I can buy there for 1/4 of the price , same beach,OF room and no worrying about an OF vs OS or GV or calling 13 months out to reserve a view or week I want.
 
I was in Marco last weekend as well. I stopped by where they are building Crystall Shores and ran into someone that told me the sale gallery is opening today 11/1. I didn't go thru the presentation.

If you were not treated very well in the sales presenation, you definitely should contact the Customer Relations Office. Contact email is

Customer.Relations@vacationclub.com

I contatced them recently about an issue I had and they were very responsive.
 
We just took the tour at ocean pointe while we are here. Completely different experience. as usual low pressure, here's the price do you want to buy or go back to the beach. I took the tour at Frenchman's Cove last Feb. and it was pretty much the same. IMHO these things sell themselves and high pressure and rudeness are generally not part of Marriott's business plan. I think you'll see a change in the sales force at Marco if those attitudes are ongoing.

Here are the current OP prices for any one interested.

Platinum
3bdr 53,900
2bof 45,900
2bov 37,300

gold
3bdr 37,400
2bof 29,900
2bov 25,500

silver
3bdr 27,900
2bof 25,500
2bov 20,800

There is a new sales twist. If you finance thru Marriott at 13.9% they give you 50k pts and you can pay your monthly fee on your Marriott card. You get the 50k pts initially and for every year you keep the financing with them. All else is the same, 100k pts for buying and 15k pts for the tour. Sales rep was very nice, no pressure but very noncommittal about OP 2 or the Ocean Mall project.

Jim Freeman
 
After reading these posts, I wonder if Sales are lagging at Marco because of the steep prices, causing the attitude problem with staff??? We had the same problem with an obnoxious salesman at Marriott in Maui and I told him he was too abrupt. :eek: He did 'soften' a little after that.
 
Just a wild guess, but maybe that guy Tom needed the coffee more than you did.
If they thought you were wasting their time, why bring their "closer" over? Now you've wasted his time, too. Once I mentioned "TUG" to a Marriott sales rep. You'd have thought he was a vampire and I just showed him my wood stake. Anyhow, the BS stopped pretty fast.
You got a bad one. Every rep I've talked to is only too happy to let you go after a half hour or so if it is apparent you have no intention of buying.
 
Someone on the boards did. I forget what they bought though.
 
They told me prices keep going up...

They said prices have gone up every other Thursday since sales began.

Obviously, I don't know how much of an increase each time.
 
most marriott price increses are a few hundred dollars. They can be as low as $100. Anything to create urgency (not that they want to put you under presure.......)
 
We just took the tour at ocean pointe while we are here. Completely different experience. as usual low pressure, here's the price do you want to buy or go back to the beach. I took the tour at Frenchman's Cove last Feb. and it was pretty much the same. IMHO these things sell themselves and high pressure and rudeness are generally not part of Marriott's business plan. I think you'll see a change in the sales force at Marco if those attitudes are ongoing.

Here are the current OP prices for any one interested.

Platinum
3bdr 53,900
2bof 45,900
2bov 37,300

gold
3bdr 37,400
2bof 29,900
2bov 25,500

silver
3bdr 27,900
2bof 25,500
2bov 20,800

There is a new sales twist. If you finance thru Marriott at 13.9% they give you 50k pts and you can pay your monthly fee on your Marriott card. You get the 50k pts initially and for every year you keep the financing with them. All else is the same, 100k pts for buying and 15k pts for the tour. Sales rep was very nice, no pressure but very noncommittal about OP 2 or the Ocean Mall project.

Jim Freeman

most marriott price increses are a few hundred dollars. They can be as low as $100. Anything to create urgency (not that they want to put you under presure.......)

Pricing for OP from Dec. of 2006

Plat.
3 bdrm OF $49,900 (has increased $4,000 in less than 12 months)
2 bdrn OF $44,400 (has increased $1,500 in less than 12 months)
2 bdrm OS $36,200 (has increased $1,100 in less than 12 months)

Gold
3 bdrm OF $35,300 (has increased $1,900 in less than 12 months)
2 bdrm OF $24,900 (has increased $5,000 in less than 12 months)
2 bdrm OS $23,900 (has increased $1,600 in less than 12 months)

Silver
3 bdrm OF $27,900 (no increase in price)
2 bdrm OF $24,900 (has increased $400 in less than 12 months)
2 bdrm OS $19,900 (has increased $900 in less than 12 mnths)

Quite a wide variance in price increases. From nothing to $5,000 depending on the unit and the season. I believe we purchased our Silver season week 3 bedroom OF unit in 12/2001 for $19,900 which is now the price of a 2 bedroom ocean side unit.

IMO our silver season OP weeks has been one of the better values for us. We can travel in November or December, the weather is warm, the beaches and pools aren't crowded and the ocean water remains warm enough in this local for swimming in December. It's a great end of the year relaxation trip for us to untie some of those knots from all that gone on and get us ready for the next year to come.

The pre-construction pricing for the 3 bedroom OF units must have been quite the bargain looking at it in hind sight now. I'm not convinced that Marco Island with it's pre-construction pricing will do the same.
 
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We were told when we bought that we should attend presentations to get the latest information, but I'm getting the impression that Marriott doesn't want owners to do that anymore.

No, I would suspect that Marriott does not want "educated owners who know the resale market" to attend presentations. They love those owners who continue to purchase weeks from them direct...
 
Overpriced....with a bad real estate market and tight credit markets....folks are NOT going to be jumping on these like they would have 3 years ago.

I believe market conditions are also forcing the EOY option at St. Kitts and St. Thomas.

With housing values slumping and credit tight many folks don't have the home equity loan market to make these timeshare purchases, like they might have a few years ago.
 
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